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pahunkboy -> Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 4:58:44 AM)
I found myself having to be NOT a nice guy yesderday at dealing with a car repair shop, and my outcome was to my benefit. So the question is, how are your goals coming along, what do you do when you hit a wall? How do you keep on track? and does being nice ruin you progress? [everyone is SO busy- at times one has to speak up] Next- the question is have you ever been a pioneer in anything?

Quivver -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 6:02:35 AM)
Ya know, I believe there is a fine art of speaking up for yourself that doesnt cross over into being pushy. It's tough to learn for many of us, and was for me as I often found myself giving up. But I've found that staying on task even after being led off topic is usually my best bet. Honestly it's simply a form of communication sprinkled with an ounce of respect for all involved. It's all in building good people skills.

pahunkboy -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 6:08:56 AM)
well I need to build people skills. I grew up in a big metro. I was raised that being vocal is good. [Chicago] When I moved to rural PA in 1988, I stepped on toes. One simply can not talk -push- compel in a small town. It back fires. You can make things hard on you this way. Im suppose to meet to go over paperwork. Well in 2 weeks 3 calls...no progress. So I called her superviser. OK- so that got the papers mailed. Now to arrange an appointment. I was clear to the receptionist that all I needed was an appointment. ZAP voice mail. So the next day, I called collect- person to person. She was MAD. She had been teaching a seminar. So she phoned me later and now I have an appointment. [this matter is connnected to home reodlling and I dont have forever witht he permit]

KatyLied -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 6:10:09 AM)
I try to be nice because I hate the thought of burning bridges. I've seen people get opportunities when they least expected them and when they weren't asked for, and from surprising sources. I always hold hope that something like that can happen for me.

pahunkboy -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 6:15:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied I try to be nice because I hate the thought of burning bridges. I've seen people get opportunities when they least expected them and when they weren't asked for, and from surprising sources. I always hold hope that something like that can happen for me. Understood. I still must complete 2 or more tasks. 1. tax appeal 2. figureing out the entagled student loan. arghhhhhhhhhhh!

sub4hire -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 6:51:21 AM)
Is it deja vu or did you ask this same question about a year ago?

pahunkboy -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 7:12:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sub4hire Is it deja vu or did you ask this same question about a year ago? Gloria -Gloria - Gloria. Us frequent posters, never ,ever,I repeat, never repeat ourselfs. Im sure you have something to say... spill it girlfriend!

sub4hire -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 7:20:44 AM)
What time do you wake up on Sundays? I've gots a very long drive every Sunday around 8am your time.

popeye1250 -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 9:45:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied I try to be nice because I hate the thought of burning bridges. I've seen people get opportunities when they least expected them and when they weren't asked for, and from surprising sources. I always hold hope that something like that can happen for me. Understood. I still must complete 2 or more tasks. 1. tax appeal 2. figureing out the entagled student loan. arghhhhhhhhhhh! Student loan? What's that all about, you going to school for something?

pahunkboy -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 10:12:06 AM)
the loan is 22 years old. so no. :-)

Lockit -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 10:40:19 AM)
I grew up where you had to use your fist as well as your smarts to survive. There were times when your smarts could talk your way through something and times with it was time to duke it out. You learned to do both. In adulthood, I learned to do more talking and set out to make changes in area's I felt needed changes. I will never forget a friend who was a police officer telling me that I better shut up or I could dissappear one day, I was stirring things up. That only made me more determined. I try to not burn bridges, but if I must, I will. I was arguing with the congress woman's office the other day and can remember thinking... I was arguing with the congress woman's office and that can't be good (!), but I continued to prove my point. Now, my son's case was put at the top of the list and we didn't get our thirty day notice of the hearing. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do and hope for the best. It helps to be savy, know what is going on and be right and very lucky. Has every issue/cause/struggle I have fought for gone well... no... I have hit a lot of walls. You make friend with the wall and continue till the next one. There is a difference in being nice or a push over or defending your right/cause/belief. Even in a healthy debate, I can still be friends or nice... we just happen to come from different places for a time. But in those situations where need be... I can be one real bitch and not have one ounce of regret or shame.

Aneirin -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 12:43:29 PM)
I have found a formula that seems to work, act stupid, thick, unknowing, as I have found people like to feel they are superior through the knowlege they have, which they think I don't have. Often this gets things done, as the person concerned not only likes to talk superior, but also delights in demonstrating their superiority by giving an apparent thicko a break. The other thing I use is something quite uncommon now it seems, is manners and gracious actions often this works well combined with the acting thick method.

LaTigresse -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 1:58:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin I have found a formula that seems to work, act stupid, thick, unknowing, as I have found people like to feel they are superior through the knowlege they have, which they think I don't have. Often this gets things done, as the person concerned not only likes to talk superior, but also delights in demonstrating their superiority by giving an apparent thicko a break. The other thing I use is something quite uncommon now it seems, is manners and gracious actions often this works well combined with the acting thick method. Manners are faaaaaaabulous! It also pays to keep a "big picture" mindset. Example: I order supplies here daily. Most things our vendors are supposed to be able to supply to us the following business day. Quite often it is not possible, for various reasons. They call and explain the situation to me and ask if it will be a problem. Now, I could be an alarmist ass and remind them of their next day policy. However, I take it on a case by case basis. Usually we really do not need it the next day. However, if I really do need it the next day, I tell them so. I usually get it. They know I am accomodating most of the time and not prone to hysterical demands. On rare occasions when they drop the ball and don't follow through on a delayed shipment, do not call to advise me of the problem, and try to bullshit me and lie to me....... Then they know I am upset and all hell breaks loose. They just don't expect sweet, friendly, polite LeeAnn to get cold and call them on their shit.

subtee -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 2:19:17 PM)
I always get their name first. If there is a problem, I focus on the solution. LaT is right on, manners work. No matter how much I get deflected I say things like, "how can I help you to XXX" whatever it is. They are people and their job sucks, so, you know.

Aneirin -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 6:17:41 PM)
Furthermore, if someone does go that extra mile to help me, I always by email, letter or phone inform the management how helpful and friendly the person was in their interaction with me. If someone gives me a break,does a good job or is especially helpful, then I will attempt to give that person a break in their work place. I suppose there is no reason to be negative with people doing their job, if they are a bit off, then perhaps there is a reason, they might be having a bad day, people are only human, if a person is consistently off with me, I simply take my business elsewhere or manage without. Odd thing is, often managing without opens up new doors of possibility.

corsetgirl -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/15/2008 8:55:06 PM)
Well today, I hit a huge brick wall but I just pick myself up, dust off, and keep going. I am trying to start a career in teaching, have all of the requirements done but this economy really sucks in my homestate. I am also aware the competition for teaching positions is rough! For the most part, I try to step back, assess the situation and calmly make a decision. If I feel that the business is not serving me well as a customer, I go elsewhere. I will even tell my friends about my experience. Sometimes, word of mouth has a very powerful element to a business.

pahunkboy -> RE: Lets talk about YOU (8/16/2008 4:59:20 AM)
Cor, get in as a sub. there are 700 aps on file for a teaching job at Lewisburg. PA the subs do pull in some cash tho

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