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Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 6:32:47 PM   
LushLadyLilith


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Status: offline 		"When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
 
Nietzsche
 
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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 6:43:23 PM   
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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 7:06:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LushLadyLilith

"When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
 
Nietzsche
 
How might this quote reflect your BDSM experiences ?
 
LILITH


I never had the perspective that the abyss had eyes.... so... how can it look back at me?

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 7:15:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LushLadyLilith

"When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
 
Nietzsche
 
How might this quote reflect your BDSM experiences ?
 
LILITH


Doesn't reflect any of my BDSM experiences. It would be nice if you could provide the whole and exact quote.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

The world doesn't need yet another misquoter and misinterpreter of Nietzsche, okay? The Nazis did enough.

(Sorry, pet peeve)

Anyways...

Nietzsche is talking about how men who become obsessed and zealous over a righteous cause can do incredible evils in the name of that cause, thus becoming the thing they sought to destroy or defeat under the blinding notion of righteousness.

How this lesson on life is applicable to spanking your partner to achieve an erection is beyond me.

Edited to Add : I'm sure, however, there is some great profoundity and connection there and you are not simply a charlatan raping the works of my favorite philosopher that you never really understood in the first place.

< Message edited by MadRabbit -- 8/11/2008 7:18:11 PM >

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 9:19:08 PM   
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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 9:26:24 PM   
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Nevermind.

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 9:33:11 PM   
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Oh, I beg your pardon, I thought this was another gaping anus thread.

Nevermind.

chia* (the pet)


That was abysmal.

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 9:40:10 PM   
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Oh, I beg your pardon, I thought this was another gaping anus thread.

Nevermind.

chia* (the pet)


That was abysmal.


Wasn't it deep though.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 9:42:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Considering the amount of self-righteous narrow minded people about and within the BDSM culture (a number of whom who post here in CM with their inability to understand that things different to their way is not necessarily wrong), I'd say that the full quote: He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. fits the BDSM area like a glove and should act as a warning against being so damned eager to nit pick or faule find.

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 9:46:56 PM   
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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 9:50:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: LushLadyLilith

"When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
 
Nietzsche
 
How might this quote reflect your BDSM experiences ?
 
LILITH


Doesn't reflect any of my BDSM experiences. It would be nice if you could provide the whole and exact quote.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

The world doesn't need yet another misquoter and misinterpreter of Nietzsche, okay? The Nazis did enough.

(Sorry, pet peeve)

Anyways...

Nietzsche is talking about how men who become obsessed and zealous over a righteous cause can do incredible evils in the name of that cause, thus becoming the thing they sought to destroy or defeat under the blinding notion of righteousness.

How this lesson on life is applicable to spanking your partner to achieve an erection is beyond me.

Edited to Add : I'm sure, however, there is some great profoundity and connection there and you are not simply a charlatan raping the works of my favorite philosopher that you never really understood in the first place.




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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 10:20:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Considering the amount of self-righteous narrow minded people about and within the BDSM culture (a number of whom who post here in CM with their inability to understand that things different to their way is not necessarily wrong), I'd say that the full quote: He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. fits the BDSM area like a glove and should act as a warning against being so damned eager to nit pick or faule find.

IB
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Humm...well....I guess I'm not doing it right yet because so far it's been just a tad exciting.  The pulling-my-hair-while-kissing-me-deeply thing is fabulous...but I can't say it's been transforming or transcendent or that I've had an out-of-body experience.....perhaps those await.
 
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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 11:23:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		But what does the abyss see when it looks into me?

Now, "what the abess saw" is another like of questioning alltogether.

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 11:34:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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"When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
 
Nietzsche
 
How might this quote reflect your BDSM experiences ?
 
LILITH


I never had the perspective that the abyss had eyes.... so... how can it look back at me?

One would have to have read Nietzsche perhaps?

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/11/2008 11:42:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		This Quote was used in something (movie/shaw) recently on the SciFi channel.  Think it was just this last week, forget the name of it.

This is one of those Quotes that reflects part of our human nature, and it's a bit of a paradox to make us think.  There's a certain amount of truth to it.

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/12/2008 3:26:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Considering the amount of self-righteous narrow minded people about and within the BDSM culture (a number of whom who post here in CM with their inability to understand that things different to their way is not necessarily wrong), I'd say that the full quote: He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. fits the BDSM area like a glove and should act as a warning against being so damned eager to nit pick or faule find.

IB
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Would this be a bad time to mention that your kind of nit picking and fault finding?

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/12/2008 3:40:01 AM   
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"I'm going in."

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/12/2008 4:32:51 AM   
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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

Nietzsche is talking about how men who become obsessed and zealous over a righteous cause can do incredible evils in the name of that cause, thus becoming the thing they sought to destroy or defeat under the blinding notion of righteousness.


Nietzchse is arguing why people should maintain a sense of self-awareness.  How they look at the world and so how they deal it.  Otherwise they, and/or others, may come to some kind of grief. 
 
How you look at the world determines how you respond to it. 

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/12/2008 7:16:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		To me, the connection here no need for another person to provide the reflection. "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

My abyss is the space within where all of my passions and fetishes hide, crammed into shadows where no "good girl" would ever -choose- to go... my acceptance and embracing of those is the abyss looking back -- and in the process, I recognize the "monsters" that society has shaped to justify its fears and give voice to its battles... and I know that I have become one of the monsters... and I fall into the abyss, embracing the monster as I fall.

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RE: Looking into the abyss - 8/13/2008 6:30:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

Considering the amount of self-righteous narrow minded people about and within the BDSM culture (a number of whom who post here in CM with their inability to understand that things different to their way is not necessarily wrong), I'd say that the full quote: He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. fits the BDSM area like a glove and should act as a warning against being so damned eager to nit pick or faule find.

IB
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Would this be a bad time to mention that your kind of nit picking and fault finding?


Touche! Olay! To some degree we all nit pick and find faults which is why we have debates. You and I could at some time have a lengthy debate about anything in the universe if we so desired and it could be most productive. However, I must say, I find little of intrelligence when in responce to a question some one posts something to the effect and if you do something it is wrong and you are stupid. There is no rationality in the comment other than to voice a personal opinion very badly. In "Ask a Master" There are a few examples of this in the thread on "Gun Play"...... On a personal basis, I tend to nit pick and fault find mostly in the area of my own actions or ideas..

IB
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