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So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 2:42:06 PM   
sfdrew


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Status: offline 		I find it to be an absolute miricle that so many lesbian female Domme should be on collar me. It struggles against all rational thought and process of statistical thinking. All of the best and most conclusive studies have reported that between 4 and 8 percent of women are lesbian. Women account for slightly over 51 percent of the worlds population. Even increasing the figure to 10 percent lesbian in the whole population (more than double the real figure of 2-4%), there is still only about 300,000 lesbians in the united states and around 600,000,000 lesbians worldwide.

Studies on kinky people or people who engage in BDSM activity are less numerious and give figures of around 5-25%. Considering half should be female that puts kinky females in the 2.5-12.5% range of the population. It stands to reason that lesbians would be more likely to be kinky given the fact they are already outside of the normally accepted realm of sexual behavior and desires and would be more open to trying new things and to discovering new things when looking for lesbian related information. But how much more?

Subcultures and enclosed populations such as prisons usually represent the greater poplulation in every way without much digression. The BDSM lifestyle and kinky sexual behavior do not prefrence lesbians or gay people even though gay and lesbians may prefrence a kinky or BDSM lifestyle. It stands to reason that only 10% of the BDSM scene would be lesbian. That would make .25 to 1.25% of the population kinky lesbians. It doesn't sound like a large number, but 1.25% is a higher percentage of the population than all the U.S military out of the U.S population (at 1%).

There have been no studies I can find relating the percentage of people who are kinky or practice a BDSM lifestlye who are gay and lesbian. Even without such a study it a far stretch of the imagination to assume anything more than double or triple the 10% average (20-30% within the BDSM community). Even after taking all these things into consideration you still regularly see a much, much higher percentage of lesbian female Domme on this site than straight or bisexual. The number of female Domme looking for women only seems to be in the 65-80% range based on a small sample. I found anywhere between 12/20 and 16/20 lesbian domme during different days and at different times of the day.  
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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 2:48:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Studies regarding sexuality, be it kinky or otherwise, have a built in flaw that they tend to only have accurate data regarding those that are out, proud and open  about their sexuality. So what you've basically got is "We know about the amount of out homosexuals". That does not include those who in "ex-gay" therapy, bisexuals who have chosen to stay in heterosexual relationships or are simply buried in the closet. Studying BDSM is also difficult as one has to find their samples, try to make a diverse and accurate sample (are we only going to include hard-core bondage or is playing with handcuffs once a week ok?) and you still have the problem that most of your sample is going to be the population that is "out".

However, I would be very interested to see where you got such definate numbers and what kind of study was done to obtain them - along with who did the study.

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 2:48:38 PM   
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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 2:58:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Studies regarding sexuality, be it kinky or otherwise, have a built in flaw that they tend to only have accurate data regarding those that are out, proud and open  about their sexuality. So what you've basically got is "We know about the amount of out homosexuals". That does not include those who in "ex-gay" therapy, bisexuals who have chosen to stay in heterosexual relationships or are simply buried in the closet. Studying BDSM is also difficult as one has to find their samples, try to make a diverse and accurate sample (are we only going to include hard-core bondage or is playing with handcuffs once a week ok?) and you still have the problem that most of your sample is going to be the population that is "out".

However, I would be very interested to see where you got such definate numbers and what kind of study was done to obtain them - along with who did the study.


The study of lesbian and female Domme on this site was done by me but the rest of the figures come from a variety of web based articles. Some of the best of the ones I found are
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_AIM_Talk.html
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian
and
http://www.wikipedia.biz/wikipedia/se/Sexual_orientation.html

Of course I don't consider these sources to be absolutly accurate but they are all based on actual research and all give figures around the numbers I mentioned. My whole point was that something about this situation is wrong. Figuring out where the error is or what the truth is may be imposible at the moment.

My own pet assumption is that many men create lesbian female domme profiles in order to attract female partners for dishonest online sexual gradification. I could be wrong but everything I have found while looking into the matter does suggest at least slightly that the numbers are very far off.


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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 3:05:28 PM   
sailorfrank


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Status: offline 		   hmmm try basing your findings on more fact by going to more sites other than CM as well. I know of one site that is much larger than here with double the people easily.

  Yes it is very hard in any type of poll to know how much is real and accurate and how much is all fiction.

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 3:18:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		  I believe that many of the dommes on here who are seeking a female partner put that they are lesbians instead of bisexual-to elude the rampant population of feral male subs who can't read the profiles that say SEEKING WOMEN ONLY.

I'm not particularly surpised that there are more women seeking women on a dating site-kinky women make up considerably less than half the kinky population. Judging by the profiles locally, I'd say that putting the stats at 65% men is not overestimating. Submissive males make up the largest part of the CM population. So any straight female domina, if we're going by statistics, has the greatest chance of finding a mate. A lesbian domina has a lower likelihood, thus being more likely to stick around on the site longer.

That being said, I haven't noticed a particular density of lesbian female dominants around here.

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 3:18:40 PM   
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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 3:21:32 PM   
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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 3:24:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sfdrew



My own pet assumption is that many men create lesbian female domme profiles in order to attract female partners for dishonest online sexual gradification. I could be wrong but everything I have found while looking into the matter does suggest at least slightly that the numbers are very far off.




My guess is, your probibly right about some of them. I don't meet people online, and that problem doesn't come up in real life.

Not sure why you would care either way. Your profile says your a straight male slave and already have an owner. Why are you counting lesbian profiles on collar me?

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 3:27:00 PM   
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You aren't accounting for dishonesty.

How many "lesbian femdoms" on collarme are really men looking for wank material?

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 3:30:08 PM   
sfdrew


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quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: sfdrew



My own pet assumption is that many men create lesbian female domme profiles in order to attract female partners for dishonest online sexual gradification. I could be wrong but everything I have found while looking into the matter does suggest at least slightly that the numbers are very far off.




My guess is, your probibly right about some of them. I don't meet people online, and that problem doesn't come up in real life.

Not sure why you would care either way. Your profile says your a straight male slave and already have an owner. Why are you counting lesbian profiles on collar me?


I do enjoy viewing random profiles on here to find interesting people and just to get a vibe for the people who are on here. It is something I have noticed for a long time and I just though I would mention it and see what everybody else thought about it. I am sure that I am not the only one to notice, am I?

It feels similar to all the female prince$$ profiles for online only that are only trying to rip people off. Everybody knows about those but I am suspect of all these lesbian and women only female domme profiles.

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 3:37:04 PM   
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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 4:08:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sailorfrank

  hmmm try basing your findings on more fact by going to more sites other than CM as well. I know of one site that is much larger than here with double the people easily.

Yes it is very hard in any type of poll to know how much is real and accurate and how much is all fiction.


You talking about alt.com? That place went into the toilet way before penthouse productions bought them. CM is one of the last bastions for the thrifty perverts of the world.

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 6:37:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		   no was talking about.....Literotica/ the board there has a large section devoted to BDSM all subjects concerning it with help sections there like CM has here.

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 6:39:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
Not sure why you would care either way. Your profile says your a straight male slave and already have an owner. Why are you counting lesbian profiles on collar me?


Can't the man just be interesting in the socialogical science behind it all?

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 6:46:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		    Of course that would be a idea behind it all.   Why we are all here? What do we want from here? etc etc...

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RE: So many female domme? - 7/31/2008 10:23:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you want valid statistics, read http://www.amazon.com/Sex-America-Edward-Laumann/dp/0446671835 Sex in America, the Definitive Study. This is the study that did it right, with proper sampling, questionnares, interviews, crosschecks, and follow-ups.


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RE: So many female domme? - 8/1/2008 4:30:29 AM   
sfdrew


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ORIGINAL: roughleather

If you want valid statistics, read http://www.amazon.com/Sex-America-Edward-Laumann/dp/0446671835 Sex in America, the Definitive Study. This is the study that did it right, with proper sampling, questionnares, interviews, crosschecks, and follow-ups.




Looks like a good read. Thanks for the link.

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RE: So many female domme? - 8/1/2008 5:53:12 AM   
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Stats is stats is stats  The one thing I remember from stats class is that you can make stats to support any idea you want.  So when I recieved my 67% grade, I simply changed the formula and presented it to the proffessor, she laughed and did not change my grade.

  

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RE: So many female domme? - 8/1/2008 6:35:27 AM   
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