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Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien cont... - 7/25/2008 7:23:53 AM   
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FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.

And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades.

Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as 'little people who look strange to us.'

He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional image of a small frame, large eyes and head.

Chillingly, he claimed our technology is "not nearly as sophisticated" as theirs and "had they been hostile", he warned "we would be been gone by now".

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html



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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 7:45:36 AM   
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I knew that already and about twenty thousand times more. So nothing new there.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 8:20:36 AM   
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Hmmm.... If this were true it would be the most important event in human history. If I was privy to this information and was briefing another person on this monumental revelation I don't think I would describe them as...'little people who look strange to us.'

I do believe we are not alone in the universe but this story sounds a little off to me.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 8:20:58 AM   
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Physical evidence please?

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 8:31:15 AM   
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If this were true it would be the most important event in human history.

No, it isn't. Our ancestors stumbled across them just about behind every bush for at least five thousand years, so actually it is old hat.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 8:39:25 AM   
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If this were true it would be the most important event in human history.

No, it isn't. Our ancestors stumbled across them just about behind every bush for at least five thousand years, so actually it is old hat.
Really...do tell me more

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 8:44:37 AM   
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of course we exist...sheesh..these are my alien friends who steal socks for fuel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5TTkK09h2w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6YOPVwrAo0

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 10:06:49 AM   
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I'd be a lot more willing to put credence in his statements if he were younger. At his age, I would need to see neurology results before believing he didn't suffer from some dementia.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 11:34:35 AM   
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Edgar Mitchell is a crack-pot, and he always has been.  You're talking about a guy that conducted private ESP experiments on Apollo 14 with his kook friends.  He also claims that a teenage, remote healer named Adam Dreamhealer cured him of kidney cancer.  Of course, he was never diagnosed with kidney cancer. 

A PhD and a seat on the Apollo 14 does not automatically make you credible in matters like this.  The neo-nazi nutjob William Pierce (author of The Turner Diaries) held a PhD in physics, worked at Los Alamos, and was a professor of physics at Oregon State University.  Despite his education, he was still a crack-pot. 

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 11:44:52 AM   
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The most suspicious aspect is that he claims to have gotten it from NASA. I do not think that NASA knows anything about this stuff, except perhaps one or two high up executives.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 11:59:59 AM   
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The most suspicious aspect is that he claims to have gotten it from NASA. I do not think that NASA knows anything about this stuff, except perhaps one or two high up executives.


Crackpot or not.  Astronauts have been saying they've been "seeing" something in space for  years.  A lot of missions have had near misses from flying debris/objects. 
Its in their mission logs.  They've even had a few on tape.

I think we'd be ignorant to believe we are the only ones here.  What would make us that superior that we could survive when no one else in the universe has been able to?  Certainly not our superior intellect.


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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:04:33 PM   
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Mitchell has a website and the interview of about nine minutes may be listened to there.
 
I get the impression that he does not know all that much. It is very much outer perimeter knowledge.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:08:02 PM   
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this is old news, about ten years ago he came out with it along with some video footage from the capsule.  i believe there are tons of things that the government covers up to keep society from being in a panic and over reacting.  what happened when a radio show aired War of  the Worlds?  it was mass hysteria.  does anybody wonder why they aired a show like that?  not just to plant the seeds of alien life but to see what the overall general reaction might be.  the lack of an open mind limits all possibilities, it doesn't mean that the possibilities don't exist.

even if we are visited by aliens from other worlds, what if the shoe was on the other foot and we were discovering life on other planets?  would we really want to go in guns blazing or would we observe and determine whether or not they had the potential for being hostile.  what if it was a world that was slowly destroying itself the way we seem to be doing.  would we warn them and then stay out of their way because they are only destroying themselves and pose really no potential threat to us?  it's possible.

i love skeptics and i love the debates.  lets keep it going, and please no personal attacks.

the proof?  how can proof be provided when it is hidden from us.  the government is excellent at disinformation, they do it on a daily basis and the media helps believe it or not.  come on, open up the mind a little bit more.

technology.... just look how far we have come in the last 50 years,  hell, look how far we have come in the last 10.  example...what can your cell phone do?  we didnt just wake up as a really smart society, we have advanced rapidly since the air balloon in Roswell, NM.
uh huh.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:18:35 PM   
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i believe there are tons of things that the government covers up to keep society from being in a panic and over reacting.

Actually, I suspect that those in power who know do not know very much at all. I suspect that they are nearly as much in the dark as most people (with the exception of me).

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we have advanced rapidly since the air balloon in Roswell, NM.

Quite.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:18:53 PM   
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Crackpot or not.  Astronauts have been saying they've been "seeing" something in space for  years.  A lot of missions have had near misses from flying debris/objects. 
Its in their mission logs.  They've even had a few on tape.


Yeah.  What does that have to do with the claims this man has made?  The solar system is full of all kinds of debris.  Within our orbit there are tons and tons of garbage floating around.  I'm sure astronauts see things all the time, but that isn't proof of an extraterrestrial encounter. 

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I think we'd be ignorant to believe we are the only ones here.  What would make us that superior that we could survive when no one else in the universe has been able to?  Certainly not our superior intellect.  


The fact of the matter is that we are IGNORANT on the subject of life existing outside of Earth.  We have never found any life on another world.  Until we actually make that discovery, we will remain ignorant on the subject.  A belief is not the same thing as knowledge.  Life on other worlds is possible, but we don't know if it happens.  It may never happen, be quite common, or be extremely rare.  If it's extremely rare, than intelligent life will be even more rare. 

Ignorance gets a bad rap.  We have nothing to be ashamed of when we don't have the answer to something.  People would be wise to use the phrase, "I don't know." more often.  It's not that hard, and it doesn't make you stupid. 

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:22:02 PM   
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Yeah.  What does that have to do with the claims this man has made?  The solar system is full of all kinds of debris.  Within our orbit there are tons and tons of garbage floating around.  I'm sure astronauts see things all the time, but that isn't proof of an extraterrestrial encounter. 


The fact of the matter is that we are IGNORANT on the subject of life existing outside of Earth.  We have never found any life on another world.  Until we actually make that discovery, we will remain ignorant on the subject.  A belief is not the same thing as knowledge.  Life on other worlds is possible, but we don't know if it happens.  It may be never happen, be quite common, or be extremely rare.  If it's extremely rare, than intelligent life will be even more rare. 


In the early missions long before we used the universe as our personal garbage dump there were reports of near misses.

It was highly publicized with one of the shuttle missions.  Though I recall it also happening on the Apollo missions.
Just need to find the video of it on the net.  I'm sure it is here somewhere.

How many other planets have we actually explored?  To get out of the spacecraft and put our feet down...actually explore to really know if anyone was on the planet or not?

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:31:05 PM   
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In the early missions long before we used the universe as our personal garbage dump there were reports of near misses.


Do you think it was clean before we got there?  Earth catches all sorts of natural objects in it's orbit.  Rock particles do reflect light.  I've seen those tapes just like most people.  All I saw is specks of light or shadows.  Human beings have a natural need to form patterns with what we see.  The so called face on Mars is a good example.  Later pictures proved that it was just a rock formation.  But you still can't convince some people; they really believe that aliens left some sort of monument there.  Like I said, we have no proof. 

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How many other planets have we actually explored?  To get out of the spacecraft and put our feet down...actually explore to really know if anyone was on the planet or not?   


We haven't physically stepped on any object other than the Moon.  The lack of proof does not prove that life exists elsewhere.  Science doesn't work like that.  We don't know, and you don't know if life exists on other worlds.  I'm not saying it doesn't, and I'm not saying it does.  I'm saying we don't know. 

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:35:23 PM   
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Actually, there's probably more empirical evidence for the existence of extra-terrestrials than there is for the existence of god. Yet religious belief is widely accepted and the atheists practically tarred and feathered, while those who believe in ET's are labeled as kooks and nut jobs.

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:38:50 PM   
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A friend once told me of a book written by a guy I believe in Switzerland. It described his meeting with the Palladians, who pretty much match the standard description.

They stuck around for a while by accounts, and knew at least one of his languages. They said they had no desire to contact any of the governments of the world, and if true, I can see why. This guy lived in a remote area and the Palladians did not want to be discovered.

I give as much creedence to this story about a story as I do to some astronaut saying aliens were flying around. I really do not believe that they would be flying all around our solar system for no reason. And doing it not wanting to be discovered. Why ?

You have to understand that space is pretty vast. There is no reason for them to be here, except maybe to watch us, but we are not a threat and won't be for quite some time. Would they be on a scientific mission to study us as we study the mating habits of a tsetse fly ? (there was a government grant for that).

I don't care how good your technology is, traveling light years can't be cheap. They would just come to hang around by the moon or something ? I don't believe it. If you take a trip like that, you don't do it just to dart around and not contact anyone. There is no logic in it.

Any species capable of interplanetary travel came from a habitable planet. There are none nearby so they must have broken the lightspeed barrier. What interest would they have in us ?

I would more believe the Palladian story, that they wanted to make contact but knew that on the whole, the human race is not ready. To find a guy living in a remote area, and to come and be friendly, to get the guy to stop shaking in his boots, and then have a good rap session (I don't mean rap music, I am an oldster) and to watch his TV, see how things are, that is alot more plausible to me.

If you remember the movie The Day The Earth Stood Still, as much as I don't like to cite fiction, I think it gave a pretty good depiction of just what would happen if an alien came to this planet and did not do it incogneto. (sp)

They had the army and everything out there surrounding Klatoo's craft, as if they could do a goddamn thing against technology that is vastly superior. The government is truly stupid in this respect I believe, and I think the depiction of the events would be quite accurate.

Just knowing how they are, knowing how they react to fear is why I believe that the book I mentioned might be true, while I think the rest of it is hogwash.

Alas, I could not get a copy of that book. True or not, I bet it would be an interesting read. But the fact of the matter is this, we are not ready for an overt alien contact. I might be, because I don't fear death, therefore I no longer fear the unknown. That is what it takes to handle such contact. I may be ready, but I think about 90% of the population is not. Many would run and hide, others would get their gun. Collectively, the human race is not all that smart, and if you need a cite or a quote to believe that, you must be living in a Thermos bottle.

So if any aliens are reading this post, stop on over. And, I got socks, plenty of them :-)

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RE: Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker claims alien ... - 7/25/2008 12:49:39 PM   
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Ok, how about Buzz Aldrin telling his story?  Apollo 11, just follow the link

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