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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/18/2008 10:20:53 AM   
Leatherist


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Do NOT flog wax off unless you are OUTSIDE.  The mess is just unbelievable.




And it will gum up your vacuum cleaner.


It was the hotel vacuum cleaner, no big deal!


One of my funniest wax memories is a girl who shaved her puss rather haphazardly-even after I got on her case over it. she was MUCH more careful after I dripped this huge clump of wax on it-and SHE had to pull it off.

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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/18/2008 10:27:22 AM   
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Tarps work well.   ;)  


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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/18/2008 10:36:47 AM   
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Very interesting question Lotus; I'll give it a try...

I think the entire process can be summarized as a progression of confidence. Starting out going to college in the shadow of the World Trade Center was an asset. I had NYC as a potential playground. Not the Disney version you see today, but the Mayor Beame Mayor Dinkins 70's version where you can arrive by bus as a virgin at the Port Authority and by the time you walked the 10 or so blocks up 42nd street and made it to Grand Central you were a heroin addicted $5 whore. Ahhhh the fun days!

Anyway, the first bit of confidence required walking into one of 100's of stores to buy a BDSM magazine or two. Then looking into some of the 'adult newspapers' SCREW of course, but more to the lifestyle was a paper called BDSM Digest. That led me to the personals, that led me to finding out about places such as 'Hellfire'. After walking by it at least 25 times I finally got up the courage to walk up the steps by the glow of the red light bulb and go into an 'open house'. The decadence and perversion I saw let me know I found a 'home'.

The people were much less scary than the facility. I dove in head first and played with anyone who would let me. Keep in mind it was before you could die from contracting a disease by having sex with people. It was a great experience. Everyone was willing to answer questions from there experiences; good and bad. I got introduced to other 'private' clubs and home dungeon parties. I learned that sexuality and gender lines blurred. I saw the beauty and passion in play and learned to appreciate that it was more a result of the emotions and mental aspects shared than any physical aspect observed. I saw 'rapture', 'catharsis', intense pain, outrageous and 'disgusting' acts - sometimes all at the same time shared between 2 people. Diving in to a mosh pit of people having sex is something everyone should experience at least once. Twosomes, threesomes, total immersion kiddie pools of exchanged body fluids. It was Dante's Inferno most Saturday nights. I saw people Wall Street types of both sexes dressed in $1000 suits (lot of money back then)stripping down and begging to be whipped or donning a leather harness and chaps to crack a bull-whip. Fond memories of great people. I stayed there and hung out pretty regularly until 9/11.

Whether I learned or have any 'skills' I leave to my partners to reply. I do know I learned about me, what I wanted, and how I wanted to live. Of course it didn't stop me from making bad decisions. I married a woman the first time around who I met a party at a NYC club. Yet for all we knew about each other, on our honeymoon flight she told me she was glad we were now married and could leave that "silly life" behind us. The fact that I didn't immediately open the cabin door and jump out, indicates that for all I knew - I didn't know how to be sure I wasn't being lied to.

No matter, it all turned out fantastic. Here I am now in LA. When I came here I was open to the idea of finding a 'slave' as I defined it, but never expecting to do so. Instead I sought out and had fun. Then beth came into my life, with no experience at all, no inkling that anything like the club that were common to me existed outside of the red light district of Amsterdam. Of course I didn't trust her, but she presented herself so damn naked and open to my eyes I couldn't help myself. Now I'm living out a fantasy 25 years in the making.

It has been wonderful to see everything all over again for the first time through her eyes. she had what you would call a 'late start'. I think she'd say it worked out okay for her too. (she doesn't have access to a computer for now but I think I can speak for her) Goes to show, no matter when you start you can get where you want to go. It's more important to know yourself and have the confidence to go out and get it.

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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/18/2008 11:00:40 AM   
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If you could go back in time- what would the mature you say to your younger you?



1. Don't be afraid to admit to yourself who you are
2. Trying to conform to what you "Think" you should be never works, embrace your base nature

As for changing things... If i changed anything in my past i would not be who I am now nor would i have my little bit.

I do wish sometimes i had made more sound decisions but it was obviosuly not the path i was supposed to take at the time.

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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/18/2008 1:40:34 PM   
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If you could go back in time- what would the mature you say to your younger you?



Nothing.. the fucker wouldn't listen to me anyways!

editted to add...

I can even hear the conversatin when I attempt to give the fucker some advice.

Old Me...."I would like to ..."

Young Me... cuts off the old me "just wait before you say anything... answer me this... Your me 20 years later right?"

Old Me... "yeah"

Young Me...."and your content and happy where you are ... right?"

Old Me.... " very content and happy"

Young Me... " and you get their without the advice from your 20 year older self?

Old Me.. " yes"

Young Me  " ok.. well keep your advise.. obviously I am doing something right that gets me to a very content and happy place in 20 years... maybe I will makes some mistakes along the way... but they are likely part of the reason I get to that place in 20 years.  So .. thanks ... but no thanks... I will be you in 20... I am content with that"

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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/18/2008 4:22:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong
If you could go back in time- what would the mature you say to your younger you?



Nothing.. the fucker wouldn't listen to me anyways!

editted to add...

I can even hear the conversatin when I attempt to give the fucker some advice.

Old Me...."I would like to ..."

Young Me... cuts off the old me "just wait before you say anything... answer me this... Your me 20 years later right?"

Old Me... "yeah"

Young Me...."and your content and happy where you are ... right?"

Old Me.... " very content and happy"

Young Me... " and you get their without the advice from your 20 year older self?

Old Me.. " yes"

Young Me  " ok.. well keep your advise.. obviously I am doing something right that gets me to a very content and happy place in 20 years... maybe I will makes some mistakes along the way... but they are likely part of the reason I get to that place in 20 years.  So .. thanks ... but no thanks... I will be you in 20... I am content with that"


... then I'd add  "Ok smartass..have it your way.. I've yet to see how we're gonna be in 40 years."
 
Great posts so far everyone :)

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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/18/2008 5:49:16 PM   
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Hmm. The advice I would give myself has less to do with bdsm and more to do with living in general.

"Don't let anyone else define you or make you feel anything less than awesome."

PS - Those pictures you were worried about, girl! They are HAWT!

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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/19/2008 8:53:38 AM   
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I started in this late in life.. age 43.  From this short span of time, I'd go back in time to tell myself: 
 
"LISTEN when they say your best tools are at the end of your wrists!  Do NOT pay $1000 on whips 'right out of the chute'. <--- (rodeo bull riding reference)"
 
"Basically kid... you lucked out.  It wasn't you. It was just dumb luck and a very tolerant husband".



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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/22/2008 3:00:24 AM   
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Stop resenting your submissive side.  You need it.  It will teach you a lot.

Oh, and stop being a fucking weirdo to the kids at school because you don't know how to channel your humiliation cravings, or that you even had any.  (I just came to this realization like this week.  Awfully gnarly.)

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RE: Early Starts and How it Turns Out - 7/22/2008 9:14:05 AM   
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I don't exactly qualify.  I didn't 'start early'.  I don't have the decades of experience either.  I won't have decades (plural) until I'm approaching 50.  Feel free to do the math.

If the older Me (50) went back and tried to talk to the 'legal age' Me, I'd have probably told Myself that I was full of shit.  There was a whole world out there to explore back then.  For those of you who don't know, I really was a small town hick back then.  I had no clue any of this even existed.  To be blunt, I was young and ignorant.

Like you, OP, I stumbled into this.  (Lucky, aren't we?)  I didn't find *this*.  This found Me.  I could have never known this was where I belonged, if I hadn't tried other things first.

My husband often asks Me a similar question, because I wasn't involved in BDSM when we met and married.  Our first couple of years together was based solely on our vanilla selves.  Not much of what anyone would call kinky.  No exploration of My sadism.  He'll ask if I think that was missed opportunity.  My answer is always no.  Everything happened exactly the way it was supposed to happen.  I was where I was supposed to be then, just as I am where I'm supposed to be now.  In ten more years, and I have those decades since the first time I started all of this, and a boy asked Me to become his Mistress, I'm willing to bet I'll be right where I'm supposed to be then, too.

The only piece of advice I'd really give Myself.  Always put a knife in your toybag, even if you're not planning to bind someone.  Wax really isn't an impromptu activity if your submissive has a hairy chest.


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