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DomAviator -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 8:35:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle er, no, it doesn't. YOU may be interested in only patronizing clubs that employ barbie dolls that know absolutely nothing about how to dance but can grind their crotch in your face or give you a blowjob. that isn't art, you're damn straight. but for some people who enjoy exotic dancing for exotic dancing, and for dancers, it IS an art. that is why some of us would pay to see "granny" dance, or pay to be taught by her. the sad thing is, it's the 20-somethings with tits and ass and no talent who are the "second-tier" ones. that's why i say exotic dancing doesn't exist solely to please men. take into account the only studio we have here (we have no strip clubs to speak of really); people pay a LOT of money to take lessons from these women and to have them perform, and they know their shit - nearly every dancer there has extensive training. and gasp some of their customers are men. who do not expect blowjobs. go figure! Annabelle, if you choose to believe that more power to you but you are deluding yourself. I have known a great many dancers, in the club and out, and I have bedded more than a few. Rest assured they do not see it as "an art" the art is seperating the horny men from their money. The see it as a way to pay their college tuition, or to drive a new mustang, or to buy their recreational pharmaceuticals. Its NOT some sacred calling and I would bet that if they want to be honest - the men on here will tell you the same thing I did. We dont see the dancers as "artists" and we go there for no other reason but to see tits and ass and to get some play for pay from the girls who offer more than lap dances. No doubt several women on here have been dancers and they will probably tell you the same thing... As for "studios" thats a whorehouse. You can call it a "studio", you can call it an "asian spa", you can call it a "relaxation center" .... We have all of the above in Houston, and they are called "Cathouses" by the men who patronize them. (I have also been known to call it "Boystown") I have been in strip clubs, "studios", "spas" , "retreats" , "relaxation centers" or variations thereof on every continent except Antarctica and they are all "Cathouses" and the reason the men go there is to get their pipes cleaned not to see "artistic performances"..... Come on guys, weigh in on this - why do we go to these places? To see art or for T&A?

DomAviator -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 8:37:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aileen1968 He probably went for the free buffet. Eeew. Actually the buffet aint free... The place I had lunch in today was a $5 cover to get in, the buffet was $10, and Coors was $6.50 a bottle LOL To tell ya the truth, strip clubs dont really do much for me, I can get access to a nicer set anytime I want for free... However, thats where business is conducted in Texas.

NeedingMore220 -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 8:46:01 PM)
Tsk, tsk... drinking at lunch. for shame... [sm=flash.gif][sm=flash.gif][sm=pole.gif][sm=chug.gif][sm=chug.gif]

Thadius -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 8:46:49 PM)
fast reply 1. I believe a woman that can give a great blowjob is definitely an artist. 2. The only reason to go to a strip club is for the T&A, I can't see any other reason to pay what they charge for a cold beer. 3. While I admit that dancing is an art form, and a great dancer can tell one hell of a tale, most of the girls in these clubs are not dancers. 4. The game "smiles" needs to be legalized here in the states. 5. If I want to see a sexy artistic dance, I tell my girl to turn on the music. 6. I think it's kind of cool that an old "bur le q" dancer is still shaking and enjoying it. Just some quick thoughts. [;)]

bipolarber -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 8:49:44 PM)
"Oiling his carrot?" (jotting that one down for later...) LOL In the voice of Futurama's Prof. Farnsworth: "Good news everyone! The still living head of Tempest Storm is performing at the "Kazin Kat Klub" on the other side of town!...I hear she has a new robotic body that puts her original one to shame! It's amazing what they can do with carbon fiber and silicone these days! What was I talking about? Wha-?"

DomAviator -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 8:54:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius fast reply 1. I believe a woman that can give a great blowjob is definitely an artist. 2. The only reason to go to a strip club is for the T&A, I can't see any other reason to pay what they charge for a cold beer. 3. While I admit that dancing is an art form, and a great dancer can tell one hell of a tale, most of the girls in these clubs are not dancers. 4. The game "smiles" needs to be legalized here in the states. 5. If I want to see a sexy artistic dance, I tell my girl to turn on the music. 6. I think it's kind of cool that an old "bur le q" dancer is still shaking and enjoying it. Just some quick thoughts. [;)] LOL The "dancers" in the PI who can smoke cigarettes with their vaginas and who can pick up a quarter suck it in and then give you two dimes and a nickle change are REAL artists LOL God damn I cant believe we gave up NAS Cubi Point! No shit, I went to Po City just to see what the old salts were talking about and holy shit - one of the girls could actually smoke a cigarette with her vagina... Light it and puff.. Now THAT should be legal in Texas [:D]

hisannabelle -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 8:57:38 PM)
-fr- never thought i'd be so happy tallahassee isn't a hotbed of strip clubs, cathouses, "massage" parlors, etc. as i have been reading this thread. normally i bitch about how conservative this place is. no longer :) back on topic, i hope i'm half the woman tempest storm is if i live to be her age.

Vendaval -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 8:59:43 PM)
Wow, I did not know she was still performing. Some of my friends have footage of Betty Paige and other burlesque stars from the late 50's or early 60's. Tempest looked great and danced beautifully. If she still has an audience and a career going, more power to her.

Thadius -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:05:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomAviator quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius fast reply 1. I believe a woman that can give a great blowjob is definitely an artist. 2. The only reason to go to a strip club is for the T&A, I can't see any other reason to pay what they charge for a cold beer. 3. While I admit that dancing is an art form, and a great dancer can tell one hell of a tale, most of the girls in these clubs are not dancers. 4. The game "smiles" needs to be legalized here in the states. 5. If I want to see a sexy artistic dance, I tell my girl to turn on the music. 6. I think it's kind of cool that an old "bur le q" dancer is still shaking and enjoying it. Just some quick thoughts. [;)] LOL The "dancers" in the PI who can smoke cigarettes with their vaginas and who can pick up a quarter suck it in and then give you two dimes and a nickle change are REAL artists LOL God damn I cant believe we gave up NAS Cubi Point! No shit, I went to Po City just to see what the old salts were talking about and holy shit - one of the girls could actually smoke a cigarette with her vagina... Light it and puff.. Now THAT should be legal in Texas [:D] I cannot confirm or deny anything that happened in and around Subic Bay or the rest of the Phillipines. Although I have a strange recollection San Miguel and mojo parties, that a fifth of Jack was worth it's weight in gold, and that some jeepni drivers deserved good tipping for getting me back on time for muster. Hehe... although this has brought up some memories of Thailand too. [8D]

DomAviator -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:17:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius I cannot confirm or deny anything that happened in and around Subic Bay or the rest of the Phillipines. Although I have a strange recollection San Miguel and mojo parties, that a fifth of Jack was worth it's weight in gold, and that some jeepni drivers deserved good tipping for getting me back on time for muster. Hehe... although this has brought up some memories of Thailand too. [8D] OMFG Jeepneys! I want one!!!! I swear to god I want to import one and run it as a tourist thing in Galveston. Use it for "The Galveston Bar Crawl" Shit Thailand - now do they ever have some "artiists" working in the ahem "studios" there.... No shit, I was getting a good Thai rub and tug and well lets just say when my cobra spit the uh, venom was on the cieling! I had to grab the "artist" quick and pull her down on me before I would up getting a facial with my own missle LOL God Thailand.... Hmmmmm the memories of that place - ya know theres a reason why the two biggest cities are pronounced "Bang Cock" and "Fuck It" [:D] Making muster is one thing, but boarding CV-61 piss drunk and without my pants, which were left in a "studio" somewhere was not good LMFAO. Yeah, generations of Navy men love the Artists of Thailand and the PI. Men who havent experience it simply must go take in their performace... Its awe inspiring, so deeply moving, their art touched me way down deep in the place from which I think and appreciate beauty and art LMFAO

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:17:55 PM)
quote: 2. The only reason to go to a strip club is for the T&A, I can't see any other reason to pay what they charge for a cold beer. You'd like Arkansas strip clubs; they aren't allowed to sell alcohol here. It's BYOB. They are only allowed to sell set-ups, and you provide the flask. You can drunk off your ass and watch naked women for less than 20 bucks. LOL.

hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:23:32 PM)
~fr~ Strip clubs today do Not, as a rule, employ Dancers - they employ sleeze artists to semi-masterbate on stage and give the occassional blow in the vip lounge. Tempest Storm, Bette Page, and their contemporaries were Dancers. They were Artists. They were women that I would have paid to learn from. The only place you'll find dancers of their ilk these days is amongst belly dancers - and other actual Exotic dancers. Exotic Dancers, btw, are NOT STRIPPERS.

Masterdarkone29 -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:26:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomAviator quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius I cannot confirm or deny anything that happened in and around Subic Bay or the rest of the Phillipines. Although I have a strange recollection San Miguel and mojo parties, that a fifth of Jack was worth it's weight in gold, and that some jeepni drivers deserved good tipping for getting me back on time for muster. Hehe... although this has brought up some memories of Thailand too. [8D] OMFG Jeepneys! I want one!!!! I swear to god I want to import one and run it as a tourist thing in Galveston. Use it for "The Galveston Bar Crawl" Shit Thailand - now do they ever have some "artiists" working in the ahem "studios" there.... No shit, I was getting a good Thai rub and tug and well lets just say when my cobra spit the uh, venom was on the cieling! I had to grab the "artist" quick and pull her down on me before I would up getting a facial with my own missle LOL God Thailand.... Hmmmmm the memories of that place - ya know theres a reason why the two biggest cities are pronounced "Bang Cock" and "Fuck It" [:D] Making muster is one thing, but boarding CV-61 piss drunk and without my pants, which were left in a "studio" somewhere was not good LMFAO. Yeah, generations of Navy men love the Artists of Thailand and the PI. Men who havent experience it simply must go take in their performace... Its awe inspiring, so deeply moving, their art touched me way down deep in the place from which I think and appreciate beauty and art LMFAO Hasn't chaged.. We Marines loved them as well... a little good massage and tug at the Sematani Hotel Massage Parlor... Excellent and of course the fish bowl...

hisannabelle -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:26:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach ~fr~ Strip clubs today do Not, as a rule, employ Dancers - they employ sleeze artists to semi-masterbate on stage and give the occassional blow in the vip lounge. Tempest Storm, Bette Page, and their contemporaries were Dancers. They were Artists. They were women that I would have paid to learn from. The only place you'll find dancers of their ilk these days is amongst belly dancers - and other actual Exotic dancers. Exotic Dancers, btw, are NOT STRIPPERS. well said. &thailand is actually one of master's favorite places, for the same reasons you posted, da.

SeaDogret -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:31:10 PM)
DomAviator, well am a 32 year retired chief, ah what these guys have missed in the far east Hong Kong, PI, esp back in late 50's and 60's!! Ah the shows, esp roof tops of Hong Kong. I seen the lady Gale Storms many moon s ago in NY when flew in for weekend, she had stirring to an art then for horny young sailor. As far as us old greezers go, yeah like looking at the 20 somethings, however perfer older ladies in 40's and 50's , lot to be said for older experienced dancers.[;)] quote: ORIGINAL: DomAviator quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius I cannot confirm or deny anything that happened in and around Subic Bay or the rest of the Phillipines. Although I have a strange recollection San Miguel and mojo parties, that a fifth of Jack was worth it's weight in gold, and that some jeepni drivers deserved good tipping for getting me back on time for muster. Hehe... although this has brought up some memories of Thailand too. [8D] OMFG Jeepneys! I want one!!!! I swear to god I want to import one and run it as a tourist thing in Galveston. Use it for "The Galveston Bar Crawl" Shit Thailand - now do they ever have some "artiists" working in the ahem "studios" there.... No shit, I was getting a good Thai rub and tug and well lets just say when my cobra spit the uh, venom was on the cieling! I had to grab the "artist" quick and pull her down on me before I would up getting a facial with my own missle LOL God Thailand.... Hmmmmm the memories of that place - ya know theres a reason why the two biggest cities are pronounced "Bang Cock" and "Fuck It" [:D] Making muster is one thing, but boarding CV-61 piss drunk and without my pants, which were left in a "studio" somewhere was not good LMFAO. Yeah, generations of Navy men love the Artists of Thailand and the PI. Men who havent experience it simply must go take in their performace... Its awe inspiring, so deeply moving, their art touched me way down deep in the place from which I think and appreciate beauty and art LMFAO

Thadius -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:33:15 PM)
fast reply Which brings us almost full circle, with the way Las Vegas stole a near and dear motto... "What happens on deployment, stays on deployment" ...unless it requires a series of shots.

hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 9:40:28 PM)
A'ishah, I took belly dance lessons years ago. And I still belly dance - privately at home - as a form of exercise. It's something that I'm doing more of Again in fact, now that I've started loosing some of the weight that I put on over the past few years. (Also getting back into a ballroom & latin dance class as well, both because I enjoy it as an art, and because it's great exercise when done right.) One of my fairly close aquaintances is a stripper. She is not, however, what I would ever refer to as a Dancer. She doesn't much get into Dance Forms - she's there (even at 42) for the money, like the 20somethings that the boys are jabbering about. Yeah, DA - some of us did stints in our youth as strippers. My stint was at 19, and lasted a whopping 3 months. After that, I quit in disgust, because even then they didn't particularly want Dancers - they wanted on stage masterbaters with good bj skills. While I've Got those skills (yep, even have references lol) there were none of the guys that went in there during my stint as a stripper that could have afforded my time for something of that nature.

opposingtwilight -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 10:39:42 PM)
Having never seen her performance nowdays. I dunno if I'd call what she does art or stripping. She doesn't call it art, herself. She does seem think there is a right and wrong to take off your clothes (which tickles me to death but hey, if she wants to keep that up at 80 yrs old and someone is obviously paying to watch, more power to her) but come on now. I watched the posted videos. She was a stiff woman with red hair and bit tits and a beautiful smile. She was unashamed to be seen with her body on display and she enjoyed the reactions of the audience. HOWEVER she was still stiff in her movements. I didn't see much grace or fluidity. I saw a lot of wiggling side to side. What DA describes sounds just as bad, if not worse. Neither one sounds like what I would think of as being "artistic" ...

DomAviator -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 11:15:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius fast reply Which brings us almost full circle, with the way Las Vegas stole a near and dear motto... "What happens on deployment, stays on deployment" ...unless it requires a series of shots. LMFAO We had an NFO in my squadron who picked up a dose of that legendary "Superclap" so bad that he needed skin grafting on his Johnson. Thy actually changed his callsign to "Blisterdick" because of it - and then after Clinton did away with offensive call signs it was changed to "Frankenstein"... It was funny too cause whenever we would get an FNG in the ready room we would have him whip it out! You should see a young ringknockers eyes when he got a look at that... Fortunately I never needed a trip to the penis machist for a bore swabbing, although one time I did have to napalm the jungle to kill the spiders LOL I got a lot of shit about that because this was before men started shaving LOL Ah Seadog - it must break your heart to see the PC Navy of today. Sometimes Im glad my dad (who was a Master Chief with time in every diving community except SEALs) didnt live to see all the non-offensive bullshit. When I boarded without Pants I wound up at mast and they made me teach the sexual harrassment class... Big mistake having a brownshoe do that - I made it a "how to" [:D]

Thadius -> RE: Stripping at 80 (7/15/2008 11:59:08 PM)
I wonder how this 80 year old would have fit in at events like the Tailhook conventions? Since there are really no "documents" or "photos" that anybody would share in public, the next best thing is this... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/navy/tailhook/rhino.html http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/navy/tailhook/vf124.html I won't comment on the consent issue, except to say anything I took part in or witnessed was consentual.

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