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NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 1:22:10 AM   
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I've never been to the Big Apple before.
And I've kind of got a bit lost looking all the many many many websites offering to help.

I'm still figuring out the hotel, somewhere central like Chelsea or Union square, since walking is the only way to see the place. Maybe posts on the bed, and well insulated walls if I feeling kinky.
Never MidTown/Times Square as apparently it's full of tourists, who's sole purpose is to annoy the locals.

Paddles is supposed to be worth a visit, but I want to see the kind of sights like the Met, and a show or three, that you won't see in NZ.

Any suggestions for a visitor?

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 3:05:35 AM   
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NYC musts...
The Met Museum
The Guggenheim
The MoMA
Central Park
Ground Zero
Empire State Building
Times Square
Greenwich Village
Little Italy
Chinatown
Broadway plays
Off Broadway plays
You have to eat at least one NYC hotdog
Ride the subway
And good luck on finding that room with a four poster and insulated walls. 

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 3:44:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

NYC musts...

*snip*

Ride the subway



Aileen its not nice to kill the tourists LOL! I wouldnt get on a NY City Subway even if I was escorted by a SEAL team... Remember Bernhard Geotz???

The rest of the list I agree with - and a few additions

1)Ride the Circle Line
2)Take the Ferry out to the Statue of Liberty / Ellis Island
3) Intrepid Air and Space Museum
4)"Jew Town" (Not a racial slur, thats what the cabbie called it - amazing delis, wholesale diamond jewlery and designer clothes.
5) Radio City Music Hall
6) Coney Island - Cheesy / Tacky but fun as hell!  
7) If bringing a partner - the horse drawm carriage ride is a romantic must!
8) Rent a car and leave NY for a day - go explore the Catskills about 2 hours up Route 17 or head out to like Ramapo NJ or something to see the countryside.
9) The Bronx Zoo
10) The United Nations.

NY can be a lot of fun, but find a good American cabbie driving a medallion cab (there are a lot of illegal / unlicensed cabs run by non-english speakers - avoid those as you will get ripped off since they dont follow the Taxi and Limosuine commission's rules and pretty much charge what they feel like and they can get pretty nasty when you tell them no way are you paying that much. Just avoid them and stick to legitimate medallion cabs.) and heed his advice on where to go and where to avoid. In NYC your cabbie is your best guide on where to go, where to eat etc and a well connected cabbie can hook you up better than the hotel concierge. There are some places you dont want to be at certain times of day etc... Also, wherever you go - try not to look like a tourist. Ie no dangling cameras, clueless looks of wide eyed wonderment, etc... Keep your money ID etc in your FRONT pocket and carry a cheap wallet in your back pocket as bait for the pickpockets. There will be pickpockets wherever there are crowds of tourists. Try not to look "out of place" and you should have no problems - but the last person I went with was a mugger magnet because she had to act like she just fell off the turnip truck. LOL

Have fun! NY can be a great vacation - although IMHO its better at Christmas time... I never realized that until I moved away. (Seriously, I saw more of NY when I went back as a tourist than I did when I lived in NY State.)

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 4:28:17 AM   
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All of Aileen's list...except the hot dogs.  Seriously, don't miss the museums. Amazing.
Chinatown for cheap eats and cool sights and late night strolling through Little Italy is a must.
I haven't been in a year, I am way jealous, have fun!! Oh, grab a couple of killer deli sandwiches and take the T to Battery Park and spend a few hours people watching, great view of the Statue of Liberty too.  There is no place in the world that feels as alive as New York City.

Edited  to add, the subway is fine. Don't believe the hype. Oh and definitely check out Grand Central Station late night, the place is gorgeous. There is a very chic swanky little bar in there called the Campbell Apartment, very cool place for a private little tete a tete.

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 4:57:31 AM   
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The subways are fine, just use common sense and don't ride them at 2 in the morning.  Midday is perfectly safe. 
the Intrepid is out of port until November.  They are revamping it.

I'd add South Street Seaport to the list.  Nice view of the bridge from there.


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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 5:55:53 AM   
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If you like medieval art and architecture, you'll love the Cloisters Museum (part of the Met).  http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_of_Art/the_cloisters

It's an easy subway trip (yes, the subway) to a nice neighborhood, then it's a 10 min walk through beautiful Fort Tryon park to the museum.  If you go to the Met in the morning, you can visit the Cloisters on the same ticket the same day.

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 6:25:29 AM   
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The Cloisters is one of my favorite spots in NYC!  It's a little out of the way--the subway ride will take a long time from Union Square or Chelsea, but it's so worth it.  It's best to go on a nice day, when you can get out and walk around the gardens. 

I also agree with all of Aileen's list, and Aynne's suggestion of the Campbell Apartment.  It feels like a secret hideaway in the middle of Grand Central. Just one word of warning, they enforce a dress code - no jeans or sneakers, and probably no flip-flops.  If you're wearing business casual, you should be fine. 

If you're staying in Union Square or Chelsea, take a walk down 5th Ave to Washington Square Park.  It's currently under renovation, so you won't get the full picture, but it's a nice, short walk.  Also, if you're going to be there during the summer, it won't be as crowded with all the NYU students. 

If you go down to Ground Zero, or anywhere in that neighborhood, I'd also walk east, possibly wandering through City Hall Park, and check out the Brooklyn Bridge.  It's nice to walk over it and cross into Brooklyn. 

Shopping (even if it's just window shopping) in Soho can be fun.  I strongly suggest not walking on Broadway as you go through Soho if you want to avoid crowds.  Try Mercer Street or West Broadway, and you'll find lots of neat little stores. 

The subway is totally fine if you use your head.  If you still don't feel comfortable with the subway, buses are easy, too. 

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 6:29:31 AM   
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There really is no way to see all of New York in any sort of reasonable time.

Aileen's list is pretty ambitious for anything less than a week long trip.

But get a pizza slice instead of a hot dog if you simply have to sample New York street food. What New Yorkers do to the hot dog is a crime against nature.

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 10:22:20 AM   
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I'd add the American Museum of Natural History, which is across Central Park from the Metropolitan Museum.

And if you are downtown near Ground Zero, the SouthStreet Seaport, etc. make sure you see The Waterfalls  http://www.nycwaterfalls.org/

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 10:30:23 AM   
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You all forgot Ellis Island .   Museum of Natural History (across the park from the MET)    The Botanical Gardens is nice.  If you can find him,  the Soup Natzi - i have heard he has the best soups in the world - i never have gotten around to it yet so i can't say from experience.  If you like architecture go see Grand Central Station.  You can take tours that will focus on the history of architecture of the city.  Paddles is only open on weekends.  TES also has events -  http://www.tes.org/beta/  

If you do leave the city to go north, instead of stopping at the catskills go further and see the Adirondaks - more impressive.   

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 10:37:10 AM   
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If you have the time...this was fun.

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 10:59:16 AM   
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Oh Rafters in New York, that will be awesome! Yes, Chelsea rocks! It is like the only part of the city that you can see more than slivers of sky. It used to be all auto repair shops. All the big galleries bought them up refurbished them into wild and gorgeous galleries. The whole Hudson River area is gorgeous. They have been working on the parks and stuff there for years now. Even the architecture across West Side Highway is so fresh and vibrant.

I remember when it was me and crack addicts there. There is a cute hotel on 30th and 8th Av called The Chelsea Star. You must make reservations ahead of time though, cannot just show up. It was an old SRO (single room occupancy) for ages. In fact Madonna lived there when no one knew who she was. By the time I got there in 92, it was full of ho's, crack ho's, and down and outers. I lived a few doors down in a building at the time. A family guy bought it, gutted it and now it is part hostel for young travellers and part regular suites. There is also the Pennsylvania, a good ol hotel been around for ever at 7th and what like 33rd I think. The 30 all the way to the east side have some good basic hotels worth checking out for you to stay in.

I love the river, a good long walk along the river. You can see the heliport, a bit further north some big war boat and all the way down to where the gay men rock out.

They have great clubs, great places to go to dance, you must go! I havent lived there for a while now so could not tell you where to hit the clubs but the Meat Market district (14th St W along to the river has some happening places)

Central Park is a must. Especially the Rambles. It is a part in the Park just north of Strawberry Fields, the dedicated part to John Lennon, right near the Dakota on Central Park West at like, what? 68th St I think. You wouldnt even know you were in the city in the Rambles. At night it is quite the sexcapadial place, mostly gay men (no, I havent partaken myself) Last year when I was there it was all closed off for maintenance. I hope it will be open when I get there this year. It is in the middle of the park. On the east side of it is the boat park, you know where folks drive those radio activated little boats. On the west side is the big fountain, I dont know what it is called but there are also these huge arches you can walk under or a long staircase you can climb.

You can see so many cool 'acts' in the park. Swing dancing, mad drumming circles, black young boys doing all sorts of stuff, drumming on plastic tubs, dancing, singing.

I wouldnt miss the street fairs. They close off huge parts of the Avenues. They set up tables along like 10 blocks and you can buy all sorts of stuff. You can usually bump into them being out and about on a Saturday or Sunday. Avenues run north/south and the streets run East west, only true north is on a diagonal. Down in the Village you can get so lost because the grid is on true north and it is hard to find your way around, even folks who have lived there for years get lost. The numbers start at good ol 5th Av. East of 5th the street number is followed by east and west of 5th av. is the street number is followed by west.

I think the Madison Square Park is lovely with the huge life size metal trees.

Shopping is good so many places. 34th St, 14th St being good bargain places. They have a saying, "She shops at Barney's but buys on 34th St." Har har, that was me. I really love what is called "Pearl River" It is along Canal Street from like 8th Avenue to like Broadway. That is where you get your honey's back home some knock off designer bags and sunglasses. You can buy a bag of cute earrings, same style in different colors for like 3 bucks. Knock off designer sunglasses, five bucks.

The Met museum rocks and especially the Egyptian gallery, they have so much cool spaces created to house these ancient relics. You can pay whatever you want. They dont advertise that but you could hustle up to the window and hand over a single dollar and they will hand you back the little metal clip you put on your clothes or bag to show you paid.

There is great food to eat all over the darn place. Hell's kitchen 9th Av between like 50th down to the 30's is known as Restaurant Row and there are awesome little places to chow down.

I love the East Village, lots of hetero males down there all funked out. St Marks Place which is like 9th Street between 1st Av and 2nd I think, has loads of places to buy yet more sunglasses and cool hats.

Washington Square Park is at the end of 5th Av and is a place I saw Dave Chapelle perform for free in the fountain before he was famous. That was a great show. To see the arches and know all the stuff that has gone on in that Park since the 50's is pretty inspiring.

I agree to not get too involved with Times Square it is FULL of tourists and usually so crowded I cannot wait to get south or north of there. Although if you see a play you like it is worth to pay the money and see one. You can get discounted tickets the day of. Oh and great music, live music all over the place. get the Village Voice on Thursday? I forget now what day it comes out on. It is free, same witht he alternative paper, NYPress, I think it is called. You will see boxes of them around the city or at the corner bodegas selling beer and stuff.

The city is laid out in sections, since there is so much wholesaling going on there. Flowers can be bought wholesale between 7 and 6 Av around 30th down to like 28th St. Fabric and stuff 8th Av 34th St up to like 40-something.

Have a blast Rafters! Take lots of pictures. Best of luck finding that hotel with the bed and all.





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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 11:06:25 AM   
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As far as seeing a show goes, I'd recommend Avenue Q if you can find a ticket.  Most of the shows you'll find on broadway tour with a slimmer package and for this reason I'd say either see something outrageously big, or see something outrageous.  Not sure if Lion King is still running, but that show was awesome.  Avenue Q is comically offensive, so you have been forewarned.  As far as off-broadway goes, on the west side of 42nd street you'll find horizons playwrites and Theater Row theaters.  If you are looking for the NY theater experience, but without the grandeur of broadway, you'll find it there pretty easily with tickets pretty readily available.  Beyond that you'll have to search for a theater.  If you need broadway tickets I'd say get to TKTS (west 46th btwn broad an 8th at the marriot markee) early.  Its kinda a crapshoot, because they release tickets as they become available.  Some are generally let loose in the morning, but beyond that its just waiting for tickets that may or may not become available which doesn't sound like a fun way to spend your NY visit in my opinion.  Enjoy the city, I moved out of it only days ago and I miss it already.

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 11:06:53 AM   
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Link to my favorite place in NYC

And folks have already mentioned Little Italy and Chinatown, but you may not know that they are right next to each other. So I like to do dinner in Chinatown and then go across Canal Street into Little Italy for dessert, coffee and maybe a sambuca or three.


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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 1:48:09 PM   
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McSorely's
Kean's Chop House
Pete's Tavern
The Ear
White Horse Tavern
Peter Luger's
Fraunces Tavern
Yankee Stadium

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 2:32:41 PM   
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http://tdf.org/TDF_ServicePage.aspx?id=56

This link is for buying day-of tickets for Broadway and off-Broadway plays, sometimes up to half price.  Enjoy!

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 2:44:52 PM   
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definitely the Metropolitan, and the Cloisters is awesome. 
  There are also  wonderful secondhand book stores on Manhattan.

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 3:16:42 PM   
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One "cultural attration" not to be missed is the Coyote Ugly Saloon on First Avenue. (the bar from the movie) Thats actually why we went to NYC in the first place - she wanted to celebrate her 21st birthday in Coyote Ugly! Coyote Ugly was worth the trip to NYC and everything else was just icing on the cake...

(I later found out that Lil has opened Coyote Ugly Saloons in Austin, San Antonio, and New Orleans but oh well, the one in NY is "the real thing"...  ) http://www.coyoteuglysaloon.com/index.html

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 4:07:06 PM   
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Oh, yeah, in that same vein ... Hogs & Heifers is fun too!

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RE: NYC virgin, tips wanted - 7/14/2008 4:53:22 PM   
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Regarding the subway:

It's perfectly safe.  I'm on the f'ing thing almost every day (I loathe taking black cars to commute in, but I do take them home), and I've never had an issue; I don't usually hop on them real late at night, though.  So don't ride through the outer boroughs at 4 fuckin' AM, but overall, I've never had any trouble during mornings or days.  The lines through downtown and the financial district are safe at pretty much all times as long as it's not crazy late.

The vast majority of actual New Yorkers take the subway to commute.  The best thing you can do to get around effectively is learn to actually use it.  Uptown / downtown is a cinch, but crosstown can be a bit trickier for an out of towner.


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