RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50?

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LaTigresse -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 7:46:45 AM)
In some ways, yes. I understand men much easier. Men are easier to get along with, easier to figure out where their head (top one) is at. I understand their priorities and though processes. Women frustrate the hell out of me.

OsideGirl -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 7:48:03 AM)
Master refers to me as a lesbian with heterosexual tendencies. It takes an exceptional man to catch my attention. quote: ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper I have a few theories: 1) Years of males wanting nothing but sex have stigmatized her view on men. 2) Women are more desirable. 1) My sexuality was in place long before the "years of dealing with guys wanting nothing but sex." 2) Your theory sounds much like the theory that being molested as a child makes you "turn" gay. You're trying to find a reason for someone's sexuality rather than just accepting that it's usually something that just "is".

HeavansKeeper -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:08:21 AM)
At the time I'm writing this, a tally of all who posted goes as follows: Bi-sexuals who prefer men: 3 Bi-sexuals who are 50-50 in preference: 3 Bi-sexuals who prefer women: 3 Not only is this sample too small to be statistically relevant, but the sample is FAR FAR FAR from representative. It does, however, show that there are all types here. My observations have come from online as well as life. Again, I recognize the methodological issues here. I would love to see some properly done research. Overall, humans tend to remember the negative experiences. We remember when we burned our hand on the stove, not the countless times we didn't. My favorite gambling movie said it better: In "Confessions of a Winning Poker Player," Jack King said, "Few players recall big pots they have won, strange as it seems, but every player can remember with remarkable accuracy the outstanding tough beats of his career." It seems true to me, cause walking in here, I can hardly remember how I built my bankroll, but I can't stop thinking of how I lost it. In this regard, it's possible I only remember the female preffering bi-sexuals because they are a "loss" to me (I'm less likely to have a relationship with them, as they tend to choose women). Coupled with the Females-Are-More-Desirable theory (due to communication skills and possibly influences of women in art), I feel confident in explaining my findings.

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:14:47 AM)
quote: I would love to meet a female slave that is intelligent and level headed but I have yet to meet one :( eep!!! 2+2=22 ...crap so close... as far as the op is concerned..im not bi... im lesbian..and yes fyi i did date men...long ago. but not anymore.

HalloweenWhite -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:19:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper In my experience... (my disclaimer to make drastic sweeping generalizations) I've noticed many bi-sexual women tend to be more interested in women than in men. It's almost as if their sexual preference should read "Women and/or Brad Pitt." What I'm saying is that I've never found a bisexual woman who gave men the same chance as women. I have a few theories: 1) Years of males wanting nothing but sex have stigmatized her view on men. 2) Women are more desirable. (Technically, the prior is a subsect of the latter.) Also, I've noticed bi-sexual men to be far more 50-50 in their choses and openmindedness. I'm aware of Kinsey's scale theories, and recognize the silliness of trying to bunk something as free and complicated as sexuality into three categories. Perhaps if the choices were Men, Women, Men and Women, Women and Choice Men Only, this post wouldn't have crept out of brain. This could be an age related effect, as many women I meet are college students. My father once gave me a line "LUGs"... Lesbian until graduation. I thought it was cute (and demeaning to all 18-24 women). So um... thoughts? I've always had this sneaking suspicion that a lot of women both BDSM flavoured and vanilla thought that a lot of men are just ass-holes and just can't be bothered with us.

HeavansKeeper -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:21:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Master refers to me as a lesbian with heterosexual tendencies. It takes an exceptional man to catch my attention. quote: ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper I have a few theories: 1) Years of males wanting nothing but sex have stigmatized her view on men. 2) Women are more desirable. 1) My sexuality was in place long before the "years of dealing with guys wanting nothing but sex." 2) Your theory sounds much like the theory that being molested as a child makes you "turn" gay. You're trying to find a reason for someone's sexuality rather than just accepting that it's usually something that just "is". I'm a behavioralist, yes. I firmly believe that if you can control all of the factors in a creature's life, the outcome is predictable. In doing this, by controlling or altering factors, desirable outcomes can be forced. Anytime someone fails to get the desired outcome they either a) did not know what their manipulations did or b) did not account for enough factors (or control factors carefully enough). In my view of life, nothing just "is." Even sexuality. Factors we could, couldn't, and can't control affect sexual orientation. It could be big things like which parent was more loving (a common, but dated, theory) or what colour toys the child was given. Perhaps the firmness of their crib was a factor? I should add that I consider genetic factors to be aspects that matter, but cannot yet be manipulated. I'm sure I'm not the first person to come up with this belief, but I've never seen it anywhere else. I consider it a mathematical approach. Here's a bastardization of math: Consider the degree of freedom: The amount of numbers in a normal set that are "free" is one. The sum of five numbers will be 100. Pick four random numbers. 25+(-34)+1+68 .... What is the fifth number? It has to be 40, its not random. In this simple model the four random numbers represent factors in your life. (the loving sibling, the colour toy, the crib softness...) The fifth number is the forced outcome (the subject's sexuality). If I control the "random" factors, I can get a different forced outcome. I hijacked my own thread. Edit: Changed "can" to "can't". It made a big difference.

BeingChewsie -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:28:42 AM)
I'm about 90/10 ..the 90% being women and the 10% being men...I'm owned by a man but it takes a very dominant man for me to look to him over a female. Yes, I prefer women but need to be dominated, it just feels right, and only feel submissive towards men..its twisted but its me :). quote: ORIGINAL: slaveluci ~FR~ Now to the OP.......... I would say the ratio for me is about 80/20 favoring women. I simply am much more sexually attracted to them. I'm not attracted to Brad Pitt so it's not like I like women & Brad Pitt as the OP said[:D]. It's more like women and the occasional man who has all the right characteristics and qualities. That doesn't necessarily have a whole lot to do with their looks, to be honest. Beingchewsie says often on the boards something to the effect of preferring woman but needing to be dominated by a strong man. That's pretty much the way it is for me. So I'm "bi" in that I prefer women sexually (and not with them being dominant in any way) but, in a relationship, I need a strong, forceful, dominant man............luci

SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:29:26 AM)
~FR~ Pick up a book by Fritz Klein. Any of them will do but The Bisexual Option is probably the best starting point. The Klein Grid takes the concept of the Kinsey scale and goes beyond it, describing the "bisexuality continuum" based on a person's experience, fantasies, and attractions, past, present, and anticipated future. I think you'll find it an interesting read. For myself, my attraction is 50/50. My fantasies are roughly 65/35 in favor of women. My experience is 95/05 in favor of men. Not for lack of desire for greater experience with women. I'm just a lot more picky about women and compatable men are easier to find.

SteelofUtah -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:35:37 AM)
To the OP, Did it ever occur to you that possibly it is the Control? In your personal Experinece YOU are the one thing that never changes even when you gather information the answers you get back are eskew because YOU are the one asking them. You must remember always that when it comes to the Human Genome you cannot have a universal Constant because the Human Condition does not allow for one. Steel

Owner4SexSlave -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:48:13 AM)
The last girl I was seeing was bisexual. She was more into men and very picky about women. The exactly opposite of what you just described in your OP. Actually the number of bi-sexual women might scare you. Some of ones that gravitate towards men even will list themselves as "straight" on their profiles. I have encountered this a few times now on CM in last couple of years.

BLKMADONA -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 8:58:03 AM)
I, Myself, is a bisexual woman. I prefer to be around males tho-as a few comments were made-they are easier to be around. I dunno what it is...I get irritated when Im around alot of women. LOL....sometimes Im at work and I see women talking and it makes Me think of hens getting together and clucking. I think I was a male in My past life anyway. I was told that I was very insensitive...lol. I want a sandwhich after sex, that is if I dont fall asleep first...Im a one-shotter.......and like the ego-typical male, I really dont give a crap about frilly, goo-goo, stuff(i.e. The Lifetime Channelgagging.) When it comes to women,Im PICKY AZ HELL!!!. My first experience was a bad one...she turned out to be a psycobitch. But then again, if u know how to do a puzzy good, then u just do. I inadvertanly puzzywhiped her and had her coming back for more n more. She later wanted Me to move in with her and leave the hub. Second experience....it was ok....she had another woman back home....came to see Me from another state.......did her puzzy right, next thing I know...she was like...if I wanted to I can take u away from ur man. <-------------------SEE, these are the reasons why Im PICKY! However, I miss the taste, the femininty(lol, hey, every once inawhile, I like to feel like a woman too-Im only human..heh). Im just scared that the next one I come upon, she'll want My last name [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m28.gif[/image]

HeavansKeeper -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 9:02:12 AM)
Mine are in bold... Autopilot for cool =D quote: ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah To the OP, Did it ever occur to you that possibly it is the Control? That possibly what is the control? The ability of men to control women..? We're not petting the same dog here. In your personal Experinece YOU are the one thing that never changes even when you gather information the answers you get back are eskew because YOU are the one asking them. That's applied Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, or Observation Effect. The act of measuring anything changes it slightly. It's possible some aspect about me is so disgusting to women that I singlehanded turn women lesbian in droves. You must remember always that when it comes to the Human Genome you cannot have a universal Constant because the Human Condition does not allow for one. I also don't understand this latter statement. Steel

HeavansKeeper -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 9:08:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BLKMADONA I, Myself... was a male in My past life Nail on the head. You're an honorary man. One of the guys. This means, for this thread, it doesn't matter if you like men or women more =) Edit: I'd like to add that I can't fully comprehend how women are attracted to men. I'm suprised women don't just keep us locked in cages for our genetic material and go off loving each other... A man can dream.

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 9:30:33 AM)
quote: I'd like to add that I can't fully comprehend how women are attracted to men. your needed to make babies...well...that will not be an issue in a few years.... but your also needed to make us $$$$

HeavansKeeper -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 9:33:11 AM)
We also open jars.

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 9:35:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper We also open jars. yes but not all of you can do this....

HeavansKeeper -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 9:42:53 AM)
Boyfriend Pillow Jar Opener Vibrators A woman could easily make my income. I've been outsourced.

Willowmoon -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 9:47:41 AM)
Usualy for sex I prefer men and for romance I prefer woman. I have been lucky enough to find a man that can do both the sex and the romance. Now to find a woman who can do the sex as well as she can the romance who will be sub to Master but Dom to me... I wonder if she exists.

SteelofUtah -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 9:58:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper To the OP, Did it ever occur to you that possibly it is the Control? That possibly what is the control? The ability of men to control women..? We're not petting the same dog here. No as in a Scientific Experiment, the only part of your equasion that never changes as in your experinece is You, you are the Control in this situation, of course it is your experience that women behave this way, you are always the one asking. I am asking if you took into account that maybe it is just you. Maybe, you, are the reason that your experience has been as such. quote: ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper In your personal Experinece YOU are the one thing that never changes even when you gather information the answers you get back are eskew because YOU are the one asking them. That's applied Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, or Observation Effect. The act of measuring anything changes it slightly. It's possible some aspect about me is so disgusting to women that I singlehanded turn women lesbian in droves. Well that is MUCH HARSHER than I was going for, but in reality that is exactly what I am refering to, perhaps you mannerisms lead women to believe that you are pushing in some way that they be interested in YOU as thier male partner that they give you the idea that they are really into women who just occaionally have men on the side, Because I can tell you with certainty that my experinece is the exact opposite of yours that women who are Bi usually are Male Prone and females the luxury. Perhaps if you have been involved with these women and it has been your physical experience that the women you are attracted to are in fact more Lesbian than Bi and what you do for them is the Luxury to their Female Prone natures. Just a thought. Always look to the OUTSIDE of the though process for the big picture. quote: ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper You must remember always that when it comes to the Human Genome you cannot have a universal Constant because the Human Condition does not allow for one. I also don't understand this latter statement. Using the Scientific Equasion to find an answer about Human Nature is somewhat impossible because emotionally there is no Control (I.e. A Constant) Human Nature does not make all of us equal like it does other things. Emotionally we are generally all different and as sexuality often runs parallel with emotional response one cannot apply the Scientific onto the Emotional because you lack one of the main ingredients and that is the Control. Just remember when looking for a Partner that YOU are the only constant if things Never work out right if you never get the perfered result maybe you should think about modifying the control before trying again. Steel Forgive the Typos I am a Little jittery today, my fingers just don't wanna work.

Usako -> RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? (7/7/2008 10:42:25 AM)
I'm bi but I prefer men way more than women. Women are attractive but the majority of them annoy me way too much to even be friends with, let alone be romantic with; I just get along better with men.

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