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lovingpet -> Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 2:43:03 PM)
Though a slave heart may beat freely, does a couple journey to the place of slavery? I speak in terms of long term relationships. I want to know how it came to such a dynamic for given couples. How did it evolve or was it an instant thing? I know opinions will vary as does it within a given relationship. but as with most of the threads I post, I just desire polite insightful discussion. Thanks in advance for taking the time to respond. Wishes, lovingpet

chamberqueen -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 2:48:13 PM)
When I first got into my relationship I never expected to be a slave. I got into it looking for some fun; to be submissive but not to take it too seriously. It didn't take long to progress to the point where I realized that I got more fulfillment from the relationship than from any other one that I'd ever had. Soon afterwards I became a slave. In my case, and it may be very different for many, it was gradual.

ProtagonistLily -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 2:56:35 PM)
WTF are you even talking about? My 'slave' journey? Are you kidding me? I am His Slave - my journey takes me to work for an 8 hour day, home to prepare dinner, do some gardening, make sure his shirts are ironed, the calendar is updated, the shopping is done, the clothes are clean and any number of other household administrative tasks that make this house run and make it so he has time to attend to the bigger chores on the home front. Our 'journey' lead us to 8 weeks of grading and seeding our front yard after the new septic went in last spring, put a new vent in our bathroom and worked on making sure our land drained properly after the snow melts in the spring. Mmmm....sexy huh? Not very soft focus, Walt Disney technicolor birds singing is it? Well, neither is your average 24/7 D/s M/s TPE relationship. Our Journey has created specific rituals that I perform every day, that reinforce our dynamic. Our Journey lets us sleep well at night knowing the mortgage is paid and we are safe and building a life together. Our Journey has allowed us to function together as an M/s Couple and be comfortable in that in our own home. We pass for vanilla outside our house, in the vanilla world. Sorry but this whole hearts and flowers soft focus talk about 'slavery' is just not my experience. I was a submissive when I met him - I became His Slave. The 'journey'.... I dunno, it was just the natural progression of this particular relationship. No faery goodmother required. PL

RCdc -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 3:00:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovingpet Though a slave heart may beat freely, does a couple journey to the place of slavery? I speak in terms of long term relationships. I want to know how it came to such a dynamic for given couples. It happens both ways. Some people enter such a specific relationship from the beginning, some evolve into it. Although slavery isn't always an acceptable term of usage and other labels are given - such as pet, property, submissive. Some people do not use terms at all. the.dark.

TheGaggingWh0re -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 3:13:29 PM)
I have no idea how it happened! It just did D: I can remember talking to him online, and he just sort of told me to do stuff and said certain things and I responded to them until it was evident, through no ceremony or anyone saying anything, that it just was. A mutual understanding, to put it simply.

softness -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 3:22:07 PM)
I was chatting in a Master Slave forum ... He came in and said .. "soft, are you looking to be a slave?" ... I said "Yes Dark Victory I want to be a slave" .. He said "Are you looking to be in service" .... I said "Thats the whole point surely?" He PM'ed me his yahoo ID from then to now has been training me to become His slave ... rather than just a slave.

lovingpet -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 3:23:16 PM)
More to the point, I was asking if, in the experience of various couples, if the slave came to the relationship as a submissive first and came to a point that either tacitly or outright the relationship became slavery. I am wondering if folks feel that a certain level of trust and intimacy had to be obtained in order to enter that dynamic or if it was there more as a part of his or her own natural tendancies. I am talking about the start of such a dynamic, but appreciate the input as to what real day to day is all about. No Mickey Mouse stuff here, just someone with a curiosity. lovingpet

ResidentSadist -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 3:32:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovingpet More to the point, I was asking if, in the experience of various couples, if the slave came to the relationship as a submissive first and came to a point that either tacitly or outright the relationship became slavery. I am wondering if folks feel that a certain level of trust and intimacy had to be obtained… Yes to both by my experience with successful LTR TPEs. A slave’s role is independent of a submissives’ role and can be reached from any relationship style. A slave can start as vanilla and never even go down the path of a submissives’ role and vice versa. A slave doesn’t have be submissive by personality trait or have been a submissive to give up authority and submit to an authority based TPE. For me, trust (and love) has always been a key factor in making my partner feel comfortable in giving up authority and surrendering to my rule.

ThundersCry -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 3:47:39 PM)
A great question....pet. I do believe there are some submissives that...in a period of time, and without them even knowing it... become slaves to their one... Two journey....together...

lovingpet -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 4:01:12 PM)
Beautifully and well put! My thanks first of all.... Then my question, what of the Master/Mistress, or in some cases slaves, who desire to begin where many arrive? Perhaps that expands my question (I have a bad habit of doing that, sorry), but I really want to know what dynamics makes such an initial ownership work. How is it that a person trusts so completely and immediately? And further, why it is that others do not? Maybe even beyond that, is it possible that despite the outward appearance, or even the parties' own perspective, both sets have departed and arrived on the same general schedule only accellerated? And, goodness, please take no offense anyone for whom none of these really fit. In that case, I need to hear from you even more than most. Happy posting, Melissa

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 4:20:33 PM)
Whatever works for you. Some people evolve into slaves, some people evolve into subs- it is just you becoming who you will be. I myself tend to be immediately enslaved, but the process of becoming owned and being IN that ownership is a constant process and I find it takes a few years for things to seriously settle in and become firm.

scarlettjinx -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 4:47:05 PM)
When Papa and I met I was a very alpha type. I had wasted many years in relationships with men that were too weak to plan a path, so I always ended up being the head of the house. I was also in a leadership role in my career. But I never enjoyed it. When I realized I could let go of the control and Papa wanted to take care of things, it just felt right. We had many talks about it, and we both agreed that this a dynamic we would like to try. To the outside observer, it just appears we are very old fashioned, but I am his slave and he is my master. And we couldn't be happier.

califsue -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 7:09:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chamberqueen When I first got into my relationship I never expected to be a slave. I got into it looking for some fun; to be submissive but not to take it too seriously. It didn't take long to progress to the point where I realized that I got more fulfillment from the relationship than from any other one that I'd ever had. Soon afterwards I became a slave. In my case, and it may be very different for many, it was gradual. I have to agree with chamberqueen. this is exactly how my relationship happened.

califsue -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/3/2008 8:00:42 PM)
I will try to explain how it happened for me. I have only considered myself a submissive and when we began it was just for physical pleasure and play. Then he wanted more and asked me if I was ready to step it up. I answered honestly and told him on the one hand yes but that I was very afraid because to me it meant opening up to him and due to the way a 20 year relationship ended in 2004 I didn't want to risk getting hurt and had built a wall up to keep people out. Lucky for me, he is a patient man and it has been a very gradual change from submissive play partner to a slave heart. I asked him what the difference for him between a slave and a submissive and this is his definition: " A slave is owned and completely submissive. A submissive is simply submissive to some degree and is not owned". Based on our dynamic this is very true for us. I have opened up with him regarding my life's experiences, and my being belongs to him. It is one of the safest, secured, loving experiences of my life. We are not 24/7 at this time and don't know if that will happen as we live about 70 miles from each other but only time will tell.

MsValentine -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/4/2008 12:33:56 AM)
Forgive me for answering this is I do not have a slave. I do have a 24/7 sub whose only right left is to leave me if he wishes. I control him completely in all other ways and he has no limits but mine. So, maybe I can offer some useful insight. Paul and I knew each other as Domme and sub for five years before we fell in love and knew we wanted to be together. We have lived together for 18 months now with great success. I suppose because we met with him always intending to be my sub, the way the relationship deepened and grew more committed was gradual and very smoothly executed. . I took more and more control over him week by week until we are as we are now. In practical terms, day in day out, just like slave and Mistress. There really never were any rough spots or problems. It was what we both have always wanted and now having got it, couldn't be happier.

candystripper -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/4/2008 1:50:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovingpet Though a slave heart may beat freely, does a couple journey to the place of slavery? I speak in terms of long term relationships. I want to know how it came to such a dynamic for given couples. How did it evolve or was it an instant thing? I know opinions will vary as does it within a given relationship. but as with most of the threads I post, I just desire polite insightful discussion. Thanks in advance for taking the time to respond. Wishes, lovingpet I've dated men who've told me I was 'really a slave and just didn't realise it'. I think this is wishful thinking on their part. I've reflected, and I'm confident that I'm a submissive -- but not a slave. Maybe there's some undiscovered part of me I'm unaware of....but I rather doubt it. Some people are just not slaves. candystripper

mettadas -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/4/2008 5:04:36 AM)
quote: WTF are you even talking about? My 'slave' journey? Are you kidding me? Might want to have that first cup of coffee before you start posting in the morning...

ProtagonistLily -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/4/2008 6:21:02 AM)
quote: quote: WTF are you even talking about? My 'slave' journey? Are you kidding me? Might want to have that first cup of coffee before you start posting in the morning... If you'd seen the timestamp smartass, you'd have seen I posted in the PM.....

lovingpet -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/4/2008 4:16:12 PM)
Thank you so much for all the responses and by all means keep them coming! I want to hear many different couples tell their story. It will give the prespective I am desiring. Thanks again, lovingpet

KnightofMists -> RE: Journey to Slavery (7/4/2008 5:24:09 PM)
Everyone has a starting point... but the starting point will vary from relationship to relationship. The starting point is also not a linear issue... it is multi-dimensional. The path is also not straight forward.. it is full of twists and turns, ups and downs. I also think we mostly only see our path from the steps we already taken and not so much for the steps we hope to take. Steps yet to be taken are only possibilities and many steps we will never take. I am not so concerned of where I have been... and only alittle more concerned of where I am going... but I am alot concern of where I am. Without knowing where I am... I can't hope to know what step to take to get to where I want to go. This is the same with my relationships.

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