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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 6/30/2008 8:16:42 PM   
farglebargle


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We know you`re an Apple guy,Farg.

I have a new laptop w/ Vista.

So far,so good.It`s as easy to use as XP.


Actually, at the Day-Job, I'm on a Solaris box ( fucking Sun... ) . At home, I've been on redhat/fedora since 2001.

But I've always felt, if you're a Pro, you're using a Mac.



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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 6/30/2008 8:41:22 PM   
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Six months ago I moved from Win 98 to Vista and was at least expecting something better, but am sorely dissapointed, what a pile of junk. I have had problem after problem with Vista, mainly caused by the crappy updates I keep getting. The last attempt to install M$ SP1 resulted in me losing my audio, a problem which according to various tech forums seems to be popular. Thankfully liasions with HP after sales service quickly corrected the problem.



One thing about M$ is that they'll.drive you bugshit with updates if you don't turn them off, then they'll drive you bugshit reminding you that you turned updates off.  Since my connection is fairly shitty i haven't updated my XP boxes... geez, probably since i moved 2 years ago and lost broadband. They still work just ducky.

If it ain't broke, don't let them fuck around with it. They'll break it.

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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 6/30/2008 8:49:06 PM   
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i love xp....never had any problems at all with it, and i love the way things are written in english for the puter dummies like my self.

of course, i have no complaints with microsoft either.....aol screwed up my puter with some "free" virus software, and the nicest lady at microsoft was on the phone with me for 2 hours, directing me how to get it back to how it should have been.....and this was after my warranty had expired.  i guess i have been lucky.....hope it continues.

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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 6/30/2008 10:30:43 PM   
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i love xp....never had any problems at all with it, and i love the way things are written in english for the puter dummies like my self.

of course, i have no complaints with microsoft either.....aol screwed up my puter with some "free" virus software, and the nicest lady at microsoft was on the phone with me for 2 hours, directing me how to get it back to how it should have been.....and this was after my warranty had expired.  i guess i have been lucky.....hope it continues.


I heard AOL was a virus, in that it burrows into everything. Most I know won't touch ao hell with a ten foot shitty stick.


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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 6/30/2008 10:56:31 PM   
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I am sitting here using the Windows XP platform, I dread having to use Vista.
I thought that many of the pc's for sale still had XP loaded on them.
I don't want Vista.

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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 6/30/2008 11:28:31 PM   
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AOL has some crap that annoys the hell outta me... but almost all of it is 'user choice'.. you can opt out of it, which I have done.
I loved WIn98.. hated moving to XP.. but now that I've gotten used to XP I like it.  Heard far too many horror stories about VIsta to have any interest in it, and maybe it's just me, but it seems that the bugs in Vista arent getting resolved as quickly as the XP bugs were...(this is based on what I've been told by people I know that are stuck using vista)

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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 6/30/2008 11:58:45 PM   
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my crappy old slow laptop with 500MB RAM runs windows XP faster than my new super-fast laptop with 2GB runs Windows Vista.  ugh.

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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 7/1/2008 2:14:33 AM   
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Yes, that's a point, this thing takes ages to start up and shut down, both my P2 win 98 lappy and the celeron win 98 were quicker. I have slimmed down the start up menu as well to speed things up, but is still so slow.

Aside from Linux, what is there apart from micro slavery?


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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 7/1/2008 5:09:09 AM   
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AOL has some crap that annoys the hell outta me... but almost all of it is 'user choice'.. you can opt out of it, which I have done.


yep.....i went back to my old anti-virus program.  now if i could get it to stop asking me every day to d/l its spyware, id be a happy camper.  i just have too many folks i talk to on aol to give it up completely, but ill never again accept anything related to my puters upkeep from them.

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RE: MS to Stop selling XP on Monday - 7/1/2008 9:23:05 AM   
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I've got several reasons that I have given up on Microsoft, and I am currently in the process of trying to become "well acquainted" with Unbuntu (thanks, Fargle).

One of my biggest problems with using MS software is their attempt to own your box i.e. they are in bed with other major corporations, and are setting the parameters that will determine that you have to ask permission for some things, or simply prevent you from doing some things - on your own computer - and are DRMing too many other things.

And to do that, the cost is the added performance burden that Vista has (which means you need more and better equipment to run it, than you do to run XP at a similar level of performance).

In rude terms: Microsoft has decided to screw you ... and make you pay for it as well.

I have a problem with the entire attitude.  I like building my pc's from scratch when I can, and keep them updated and connected.

I've decided to take the plunge and make the effort to live in a Microsoft free environment.

A quick synopsis to date:

I loaded Ubuntu on an old Emachine.  The only issue I had was having to learn to use ndiswrapper to make the wireless network card work.  Other than that, the 384 meg, 40 gig HD machine runs fine.

I bought and built a new top-of-line machine (pure intell machine) from scratch, and loaded only Ubuntu on it.  The only issue I had in installation was in getting the wireless drivers to work - again.  Took me a couple of hours to remember how I did it on the Emachine.

Over the last several months, I've bought or paid for three Vista laptops (and Treasure bought a fourth).

I've converted one to a dual boot Vista/Ubuntu machine, without a single glitch or hiccup.  It's a 64 bit machine, runs 32 bit Vista and 64 bit Ubuntu.  It runs a lot faster under linux. 

I have a two year old XP laptop that I'm debating the transition right now.

I made my video-server a dual boot XP/Ubuntu machine ... and spent about 3 months getting it to work right.  Primary problem was in trying to mix SATA and IDE boot drives (and using an IDE Raid array card for additional HD's), and Ubuntu messing with the MBR (Main Boot Record) on my Windows disk.

Finally got the drives and the dual boot straightened out, but discovered the Nvidia restricted drivers won't allow me to change the monitor resolution beyond 800x600.  Not sure, but it looks like it's an issue with the X org people's attempt to "automate" their configuration system. (The video card I'm using worked fine with earlier distributions). Looks like the only way I'm gonna solve it is with a new video card.

So far, all of my programs - or their free linux equivalent - seem to be available, or work.  There is only one "killer" Windows based program that I need, and I think I'll be able to run it in VMware.

I'm going slow, and had a few bumps along the way, but it looks like a Microsoft-free lifestyle is do-able.

For anyone not very technically savvy, I'd say that any new laptop, or pc could be converted over pretty easily and automatically to Ubuntu linux, with an ocasional trip to their support forums for that odd problem.

My experience leads me to a tentative conclusion that a clean, single OS installation on a new PC is likely to be pretty much the least troublesome way to convert.

Me?  My goal is MS free in the next year.

And stay that way.

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