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Isabelah -> Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 3:08:43 PM)

What I mean, is your slave employed and making money? Does it cause conflict when it comes to serving their Mistress?

I am considering a slave and he works. I personally see nothing wrong with him making money,  what is his is mine, but I am conflicted over how and if it can be problematic to regards to his slavery?




MyMasterStephen -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 3:14:31 PM)

You are considering him (so he isn't your slave yet), but what is his is yours (present tense).

Does he consent to financial slavery?

If you state that what is his is yours (which seems a fairly definitive statement to me), how can you then be conflicted?  Do you actually understand the status of your relationship with him?

And to what "problems" do you refer?




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 3:19:53 PM)

Both my boys work. It hasnt presented problems with their service. It will only present problems if, for some reason, you think that your time with him is threatened by his time at work. If you are confident in the relationship, there should be no threat from his having a job, nor from him having his own friends or hobbies either. Proper service doesnt have to mean he spends every waking second fauning over you, though that might be nice for a day or so on occasion, it gets old quickly for both parties.
Think about the alternative, as well. If he doesnt work, do you make enough money to support both of you comfortably? Is there enough for him to do arount the home while you are out at work that would justify him being home for that many hours when he cannot be serving you since you arent there?

DV




Isabelah -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 3:21:30 PM)

I would like a general answer from those who have had slaves who are working and their experience dealing with them working. I know some who do not allow their slaves to work, but I would like to hear from those who do.





AAkasha -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 3:24:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Isabelah

What I mean, is your slave employed and making money? Does it cause conflict when it comes to serving their Mistress?

I am considering a slave and he works. I personally see nothing wrong with him making money,  what is his is mine, but I am conflicted over how and if it can be problematic to regards to his slavery?


I can tell you the pros and cons of having a non-working submissive/husband.  First and foremost are the practical matters. It's hard to live on one income.  I'm in a unique situation in that I'm ten years older than my husband and we got together when he was just getting out of college, so he had not started a career yet and I had one well on the way. I'm also a workaholic and LOVE my career.  That said, he could care less if he was working in an office or not.  He was an immigrant and could not work legally for a year while his paperwork was processed, so instead he stayed home and basically handled every single item that he could outside of working.  I got spoiled.  I loved that.  I worked my ass off, but everything else in my life was managed properly and the house was handled. He did laundry, dishes, cooking, everything.  Errands, shopping - you name it. 

When his paperwork came through he got a job and we tried that for awhile, with dual incomes, and sure, the money was nice, but I hated it.  I liked it much more when he was at home and we had a lot more free time together and were less stressed.  The money he earned, anyway, was smaller than my earning potential, and we realized I could earn MORE money if I had a more managed household and less stress.  It became obvious the answer was for him not to work and to just be a 24/7 house husband. In the time he stopped working and instead managed the house, my earning potential WAY outdid his additional income, further emphasising that it was financially actually better to not have him work.

Fast forward a few years and he's had a lot of passionate hobbies emerge. He's also started working for me in my business a lot, and he is good at it. His hobby, though, has turned into a part time job, and that's causing a strain on our relationship. I don't feel right telling him he can't work - he only works 10 - 12 hours a week outside of the house, but there is a big difference in the mindset when someone is 24.7 taking care of your needs and tending to things vs. having a second boss. This is a relatively recent hiccup in our relationship and one we are addressing.

There is something to be said for having a man who really has no other job than to make your life easier. He can be emotionally, mentally and sexually available at any time. He did a fantastic job managing my needs ahead of me needing them, and that created a lot of calm in my otherwise busy, hectic and demanding career.  Even the 10 - 12 hours that he is not here I feel strain, and things are not getting done around the house as quickly as they used to; it's NOT worth the additional money he is bringing in, but he is PASSIONATELY fulfilled because it's a hobby of his turned into a little extra income.  I would love it if he quit in a heartbeat, but he enjoys it too much, so we are working our way around it.  I'll have to get back to you in a year on that. 

Some people will tell you that it's not fulfilling being a 'stay at home' submissive and a guy would get bored.  Believe me, he was never bored - but you need a type of man that is VERY much a self starter and also has a variety of passions. He would mountain bike, work out, play hockey, run (taking care of his body was important to me), and spend a great deal of time reading, studying and becoming wordly and more educated, because that helped me in my career and in networking. He also managed my schedule and social calendar, businses trips and packing, and even so far as shopped for me, bought my makeup and clothes and shaved my  legs. You name it. Now, we have to scale that back a bit, because of priorities.  But the thing that is missing most is that he is 100% just addressing needs as they come up, vs. the old days when he would be able to spend a lot of time just coming up with things to do to make my life easier on a whim - washing the car, picking up a small gift, buying something to make my office more organized, or basiaclly thinking, "ok, I'm finished with my to-do list, what else can I do to de-stress her life?"

Akasha





leadership527 -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 4:22:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Isabelah

I would like a general answer from those who have had slaves who are working and their experience dealing with them working. I know some who do not allow their slaves to work, but I would like to hear from those who do.



OK, I'll bite.  My slave goes to work every day and supports me -- I'm retired.  The way I view it is like this... "I have 48 hours in each day to spend as I see fit.  I'm spending roughly 10 of them to make her income as well as provide her some much needed socialization (she doesn't do well without a job to force her to meet people)". 

Double win from my standpoint, I'm taking care of the toys AND getting some money.  10 hours well spent.  What's the rub?




MsStarlett -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 5:03:28 PM)

I don't keep slaves.  Therefore, I'm sure my oppinion is of no value to the OP.  For the others who will read this - I can't imagine keeping ANY adult human in my home who isn't working.  I gave birth to two sons.  They are the only ones who get to "Free Load" off of me.  I get at least a dozen new offers from free loading bums to come lay around MY house, eating MY food, using MY entertainment center and contributing nothing to MY bills.  They just want to tidy up a bit and take a beating now and then.  As my family says "I ain't tak'n no more to raise."  Who the hell would want a good for nothing leach?




vampchick88 -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 7:34:55 PM)

pet works, he works very hard at what he does. he has showed me that he is very responsible and works hard for what he gets. his job has never been a problem for me nor do I think it ever will, since he doesn't have the luxury of his bills magically paying themselves. During a time or two we had the discomfort of our schedules not allowing us to have much "us" time, but we both understood that there were things that needed to be taken care of and responsibilites had to be first priority. Now plans would change if I could ever win the powerball! *[:)]dreams on[:)]* ~Lorelei




MsLemon -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 7:59:10 PM)

My hubby/slave works but that's due to financial reasons for the time being.  When we first got together I was the only one working and he handled all household matters plus anything else that came along.  His working got to become necessary for fiscal reasons plus it serves to make him go out and do something wher ehe feels more a "contributor" even though I routinely pointed out I placed value in his work for the home.  Right now I'm job hunting as I got downsized from my long term employer and the reality is that I don't look to be able to enter the market making what I did previously so he'll have to keep working.  We adapt and adjust as needs change.  A slave is not just a physical being to control and manipulate they are a person with feelings and emotions you must consider and heed else you break that which you own.  Ownership comes from within as well as from a physical act/mark you might do so remember if he gives you himself fully and you communicate clearly with each other all else will fall in place .. whether you both work or not.

Regards,
Ms Lemon




xxblushesxx -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/26/2008 8:03:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsStarlett

I don't keep slaves.  Therefore, I'm sure my oppinion is of no value to the OP.  For the others who will read this - I can't imagine keeping ANY adult human in my home who isn't working.  I gave birth to two sons.  They are the only ones who get to "Free Load" off of me.  I get at least a dozen new offers from free loading bums to come lay around MY house, eating MY food, using MY entertainment center and contributing nothing to MY bills.  They just want to tidy up a bit and take a beating now and then.  As my family says "I ain't tak'n no more to raise."  Who the hell would want a good for nothing leach?


Sometimes HM seems to feel that way; but every time I work or even look for work, the time it takes away from Him irritates Him.
I never consider myself a good for nothing leech, but, then again, who does?[&:]




thetammyjo -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/27/2008 6:00:51 AM)

Fox gave up several career opportunities when he became my slave because he knew in this household the owner comes first and foremost -- my career, my lifestyle, where I want to live and how. His opinions are required and I consider them but at the end of the day, he became my slave, moved into my house, and joined my family -- he follows me, not I him.

Yes, this has caused some issues but we rely on our solid Ds foundation, and some help from the family therapist from time to time, when he had a very difficult co-worker at his job. It took us about a month for me to make a decision about what to do.

He could have taken a job in another city but I decided that was too damaging to our dynamic -- my 24/7, live-in slave needs to live with me.

He could have commuted to another job. No, the drive would kill him emotionally faster than this co-worker.

Instead he talked to his supervisor and scheduled the vast majority of his hours around the other person -- they are both managers so not technically needed at the same time. Also recently this toxic co-worker annoyed someone else so much that she got a "talking to" from the higher ups so on those rare occasions when he must work with her, she is learning to control herself better.

Now this was 7 years after I first owned him. This was not a set of decisions I would have been capable of making after 1 year or maybe even 2 but given how long we've been together I knew and he trusted that I could make the best decision.





Lashra -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/27/2008 6:08:55 AM)

You better believe that he does. He has bills to pay and needs to survive so he better work, I'm not supporting him.

I've never believed in the "Whoever makes the most money is in charge" idea. The person who is in charge SHOULD be the person who is better at decision making. Just my opinion.

~Lashra




Isabelah -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/27/2008 6:19:35 AM)

Thank you all for your information, sharing, and thoughts. I truly read each one and it has made me feel a bit better about my own decisions about financial slavery.  In this day and age I cannot see one living off of one income- society doesn't even allow that kind of living. Now, if I was wealthy- then maybe I could see a slave not working, but I agree with all of you.

Of course I want to be pampered, but I find it much more of a turnon that the bills are paid.

Thanks again :)




MsValentine -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/27/2008 6:54:38 AM)

Okay, shoot me down but I am talking of my sub now, not a slave but seeing as the only reason he is not my slave is because I chose not to do ownership, he is like a slave in every practical respect. He is my 24/7 partner, lover and friend as well as wonderful sub.

So....having laid out the background...does he work...he sure does. He has a well paid job and so it would be crazy for him not to. I don't think it even remotely crossed our minds that he shouldn't.

He works hard at work and works hard to please me at home. He is always willing to performs tasks and chores as well as pamper me so I don't find his paid work has a detrimental effect upon me. He knows how to use his time well and his aim always is to put me first.

I work from home and could not and would not want him hanging about the house all day.

This arrangement has a very positive effect upon us both, as we can enjoy a great life, with both of our salaries contributing to that.




TwoNYCDommes -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/27/2008 8:24:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Isabelah
I am conflicted over how and if it can be problematic to regards to his slavery?


Why would it be?  Just think of his outside employment as yet another type of service he performs for you, earning money to help support the household.  Certainly, it will take up some of his time, but every task you give him does that. 




aidan -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/27/2008 10:12:58 AM)

As much as I'm sure Mistress would like for me to stay home and do the domestic stuff full-time, and as much as I would love to do that, the fact is we're not in a position for that now. We're both going to school and will have to be paying off loans for the foreseeable future.

The thing is, even I didn't have a job outside the house I would still be working, because my profession is writing. If I can get a gig doing articles or reviews or short stories that I can just e-mail in, yeah, I'm ducking out of the 9-to-5 shit and being a stay-at-home slave.

Tangent: I'm in the middle of a wage-serf gig at the local Cumberland Farms gas station, in an attempt to save some money for the move, and hole-ee shit, is it awful. I can't believe I haven't been fired yet. I have to be the worst employee ever. :-p




MissIsis -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/27/2008 10:23:41 AM)

I wouldn't consider a slave unless he was working.  I wouldn't even take a submissive unless he was working.  Whatever needs he might have to accomodate him working, I would make happen.  




MySweetSubmssive -> RE: Does your slave work? (6/27/2008 5:12:50 PM)

I don't own a slave, but I imagine this decision is made facing the same pragmatic issue of any two people in a partnership -- unless someone is making *fantastic* money, there have to be two incomes to keep a household afloat.

Money aside, if I had a slave partner, I think I would want him to work at least part-time outside the household for his own (and by extension, my) mental stimulation. 

Mss




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