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DomKen -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 4:01:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you What's worse is the EPA caved into Bush and rewrote the findings to please the WH. Let's see if I remember how the government is organized ... who does the EPA work for, exactly? The citizens of the USA.

Vendaval -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 4:36:27 PM)
So once again the facts were distorted to fit the political goals rather than policy being determined by scientific evidence. Where have we seen this tactic before?

FirmhandKY -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 6:12:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you What's worse is the EPA caved into Bush and rewrote the findings to please the WH. Let's see if I remember how the government is organized ... who does the EPA work for, exactly? The citizens of the USA. Right concept, wrong answer. Who did the citizens of the USA give the right to run the Federal Executive to? You know the answer. You just don't like it. Firm

FirmhandKY -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 6:13:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval So once again the facts were distorted to fit the political goals rather than policy being determined by scientific evidence. Where have we seen this tactic before? Or, just perhaps, you have a President who isn't bowing down to the liberal gods of global warming? Where you stand depends on where you sit, after all. Firm

Leatherist -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 6:15:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you What's worse is the EPA caved into Bush and rewrote the findings to please the WH. Let's see if I remember how the government is organized ... who does the EPA work for, exactly? The citizens of the USA. Right concept, wrong answer. Who did the citizens of the USA give the right to run the Federal Executive to? You know the answer. You just don't like it. Firm The electoral college-a rigged system that discounts and defrauds the one man one vote theory of democracy. Winning an election is no longer the sign of the support of the majority of the people.

Thadius -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 6:21:26 PM)
We are a democratic republic. Hence we elect officials to make decisions for us. The only place that one man = one vote is the congressional and local races, and only then if you aren't in Chicago. [;)]

Leatherist -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 6:32:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Thadius We are a democratic republic. Hence we elect officials to make decisions for us. The only place that one man = one vote is the congressional and local races, and only then if you aren't in Chicago. [;)] The main problem being, often they don't make those decisions for US. They make them for their financial election sponsors.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 6:52:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: candystripper What a complete and utter fktard Bush is. I still say Congress should commence Impeachment Proceedings; the arguments against doing so just don't wash wih me. He still has six months in office. $50 says he pardons a bunch of people on the last day he's in office. He makes even the sleaziest Florida politician look well-informed and somewhat normal! candystripper** Bob Wexler has already begun impeachment proceedings. I fully support him. Bush is an even bigger scumbag than Nixon.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 7:01:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval So once again the facts were distorted to fit the political goals rather than policy being determined by scientific evidence. Where have we seen this tactic before? Or, just perhaps, you have a President who isn't bowing down to the liberal gods of global warming? Where you stand depends on where you sit, after all. Firm Bullshit. It's one thing to disagree with the conclusions of the report. It's another thing entirely to refuse to read it because those conclusions may not fit in with the prevailing conservative anti-science pseudo-Christian dogma.

philosophy -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 7:11:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you Next, we will have all Natural History Museums turned into bible study areas. And that would be a bad thing ... why? [:)] Firm ......would only not be a bad thing if we change the churches over to rigorous scientific research centres......mind you, both bible study and empirical analysis both require specialised facilities, why not just leave things as they are?

Vendaval -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 7:57:14 PM)
"Liberal gods"? Once again confusing science and religion. quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval So once again the facts were distorted to fit the political goals rather than policy being determined by scientific evidence. Where have we seen this tactic before? Or, just perhaps, you have a President who isn't bowing down to the liberal gods of global warming? Where you stand depends on where you sit, after all. Firm

DomKen -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 8:20:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you What's worse is the EPA caved into Bush and rewrote the findings to please the WH. Let's see if I remember how the government is organized ... who does the EPA work for, exactly? The citizens of the USA. Right concept, wrong answer. Who did the citizens of the USA give the right to run the Federal Executive to? You know the answer. You just don't like it. Firm Bush may be their supervisor but they, like all government employees, work for you and me and I expect them to do their job. That you prefer to see my taxes wasted is quite telling.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 9:01:27 PM)
That day has already come and gone. Smithsonian Magazine announced a couple of years ago that they were publishing a biology textbook for high schools with a chapter on intelligent design. That was the day I canceled my membership. quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you Next, we will have all Natural History Museums turned into bible study areas.

DarkSteven -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 9:29:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol The current administration will be a source of entertainment for generations of satirists to come. It better. They're certainly no laughing matter now... Actually, here are a couple of jokes by local comics: 1. Have you seen the price of gas? It's outrageous! It's higher than Bush's approval rating! (Tim Marquez) 2. I can't believe how unpopular Bush is. The word got out that he had abused cocaine and marijuana in his past, The next day, the use of illegal drugs dropped by 35%. (Steven Colorado)

Thadius -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/27/2008 9:37:11 PM)
I guess the real joke, or perhaps the scary part is that his approval ratings are higher than Congress.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/29/2008 11:04:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: philosophy quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you Next, we will have all Natural History Museums turned into bible study areas. And that would be a bad thing ... why? [:)] Firm ......would only not be a bad thing if we change the churches over to rigorous scientific research centres......mind you, both bible study and empirical analysis both require specialised facilities, why not just leave things as they are? Hi philo! Changing churches over to "rigorous scientific research centres" would simply be changing them from one belief system to another. Both have their place in society, I believe. I've said several times on the boards that I'm a "classic liberal with a twist", that twist being that I believe in all the classical liberal ideals, except that I also believe that faith plays an important part in human society, and that failure to take it into account (and tame it when necessary) is a critical flaw in original classical liberalism. Which goes back to my comments about "the gods of liberalism" that Vendaval commented on. I believe that faith is an evolutionary requirement for the human species. We'll have it, whether or not we want to or not. When "religion" is discounted, or repressed - it doesn't mean that faith disappears, just that a differing system of beliefs and faith replace it. Many of today's "liberals" (whose beliefs do not reflect anything near classical liberalism) have replaced one belief system (religion) with another (what I often refer to with the terms "left", "lefty", or "lefty-liberalism"). This "leftism" is not scientifically based, although they often use "science" as a cover to justify their desires for societal change (hence, much of the "junk science" out there today). This "new liberalism" is a belief system, based on faith, that often supplants traditional religious belief systems, or that has merged with and often supplants large parts of the traditional Christian religious belief system with a new system of beliefs in which many "traditional Christians" would not really recognize as "Christian". Disregarding the factual basis of Global Warming (in other words, it could be 100% true, or 100% fabricated - doesn't matter), the fact is that many, many "lefties" have embraced Global Warming as a method to force "non-believers" to conform to their belief system. Therefore ... "the gods of [new] liberalism". Firm

NumberSix -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/29/2008 11:15:28 AM)
Many of today's "liberals" (whose beliefs do not reflect anything near classical liberalism) have replaced one belief system (religion) with another (what I often refer to with the terms "left", "lefty", or "lefty-liberalism"). This "leftism" is not scientifically based, although they often use "science" as a cover to justify their desires for societal change (hence, much of the "junk science" out there today). You just couldn't hang with is could you? Damn, it was a pretty good post until then. Perhaps you can shore up some of the 'non-junk' science you are master of. This ain't ever gonna get anyone anywhere.The Know Nothing Party is as over as Ross Perot.

Owner59 -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/29/2008 11:38:58 AM)
You know it`s get`n bad when the administration can`t agree with it`s self. Does anyone know what the big scary monster in that e-mail was? A conclusion and the positive results of a study that said that fighting global warming and going green, wouldn`t harm the economy. In fact,those efforts would be job creators and economic stimulators. For bushie neo-cons,that is a vewy scawy idea.That going green is good for business. One of the largest chunks of the neo-con bullshit argument against going green,is that it will harm the economy,make us poorer and cost to much to implement. That EPA document said the opposite was true. No wonder the bushies played this child`s game ,trying to squash it`s own report. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Instead of lying about what side of the issue they`re on,they should take their position and defend it.Not agree w/ in public (to be popular)and then shove it in the circular file when no none`s looking. It`s also the clearest indication that the bushies are being disingenuous about getting on-board in the fight against climate change and pollution. Like every other important issue or policy,they say one thing for the cameras and do the opposite in reality.

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/29/2008 11:40:26 AM)
starts singing the smurf song... la la, la la la la... la la lalala la, la, la la la la... etc..

farglebargle -> RE: Bush: (in denial) "La! La! La! I can't HEAR YOU!" (6/29/2008 12:53:55 PM)
quote: The electoral college-a rigged system that discounts and defrauds the one man one vote theory of democracy. Winning an election is no longer the sign of the support of the majority of the people. Dude, they're not even COUNTING the popular vote. And no-one can prove they are!

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