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RE: the silver lining - 6/23/2008 2:45:01 PM   
kdsub


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Lordandmaster...I think you have it exactly the opposite of human nature. People will look, and often without good reason, to blame others for their troubles.

I'm sure you experience it at home all the time... You get upset...sick.. or mad.. and take it out on others... Hope I'm wrong...but usually I'm not...lol


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RE: the silver lining - 6/23/2008 2:56:26 PM   
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It's very possible that our society will develop intelligent, community and solidarity-based values again as a consequence of the shit hitting the fan. In the end, this is how most societal change occurs. We just have to get over five decades of rampant materialism :-) .

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RE: the silver lining - 6/23/2008 3:02:21 PM   
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And on Yahoo News they said that UPS is "drastically" lowering second and third quarter results.
Also, United Airlines just anounced a layoff of 950 pilots.
This "global economy" just keeps getting better and better!

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RE: the silver lining - 6/24/2008 8:05:23 PM   
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Like most other things people do, bitching is a survival technique, and it's effective when there's someone to listen and do something about it.  That's why people bitch at the customer-service counter after Christmas.  Usually, retailers value customers' business and therefore feeling obliged to respond to bitching.  But people who bitch at the customer-service counter after Christmas are hardly suffering.  The whole point is that they're NOT suffering; otherwise they'd have to do a whole lot more than just bitch to get their problems solved.  Bitching becomes ineffective when there's no one around to make things better--or when someone who could make things better doesn't respond to bitching.  And that's kinda what happens when people suffer: bitching doesn't work anymore, so people have to solve their own problems.  You can blame other people, sure, but when it's a matter of survival, blaming other people isn't going to solve your problems either.

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RE: the silver lining - 6/24/2008 8:21:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lauren0221

I think that adversity either brings out the best or the worst in people. Many will rise to the occasion, let go of  their prejudices, and work together to make things better.

And some will find someone to blame for their problems, and hate them, and become even more prejudiced.

I remember being suprised that my wealthy, educated neighbor acquired a bunch of guns before Y2K so he could defend himself against the starving people who were going to try to take his food. I think you really don't know how someone will respond to a situation until it happens.


I agree and you pretty much said it for me.



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RE: the silver lining - 6/24/2008 9:37:00 PM   
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I wonder how you might rework this theme of bitching into an analysis of right-wing talk radio. Will its tones become more muted if the US continues down the shitter? Will a guy like O'Reilly be led to soul searching?

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