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pinkieplum -> The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 9:07:02 AM)

Do they still teach Erikson's Theory of Pyschosocial Development in Psych 101 classes?  i find myself experiencing the growth and development i recall as part of his theory.

Erikson theorised that personality development does not end in adolescence.

Instead as W/we age, W/we have opportunties for growth and joy W/we did not have when W/we were young.

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hope - Basic Trust vs. Mistrust - Infant stage. Does the child believe its caregivers to be reliable?

will - Autonomy vs. Shame and Doubt - Toddler stage. Child needs to learn to explore the world. Bad if the parent is too smothering or completely neglectful.

purpose - Initiative vs. Guilt - Kindergarten - Can the child plan or do things on his own, such as dress him or herself. If "guilty" about making his or her own choices, the child will not function well. Erikson has a positive outlook on this stage, saying that most guilt is quickly compensated by a sense of accomplishment.

competence - Industry vs. Inferiority - Around age 6 to puberty. Child comparing self worth to others (such as in a classroom environment). Child can recognise major disparities in personal abilities relative to other children. Erikson places some emphasis on the teacher, who should ensure that children do not feel inferior.

fidelity - Identity vs. Role Confusion - Teenager. Questioning of self. Who am I, how do I fit in? Where am I going in life? Erikson believes that if the parents allow the child to explore, they will conclude their own identity. However, if the parents continually push him/her to conform to their views, the teen will face identity confusion.

love (in intimate relationships, work and family) - Intimacy vs. Isolation - Young adult. Who do I want to be with or date, what am I going to do with my life? Will I settle down? This stage has begun to last longer as young adults choose to stay in school and not settle.

caring - Generativity vs. Stagnation - the Mid-life crisis. Measure accomplishments/failures. Am I satisfied or not? The need to assist the younger generation. Stagnation is the feeling of not having done anything to help the next generation.

wisdom - Ego Integrity vs. Despair - old age. Some handle death well. Some can be bitter, unhappy, dissatisfied with what they accomplished or failed to accomplish within their life time. They reflect on the past, and either conclude at satisfaction or despair.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Erikson

i'd say i failed to accomplish love -- romantic love anyway, for i truely love my UM, my family and my closest friends -- until i found D/s.  As i learned about submission, i could feel my heart opening and the desire to care for, serve, please and love a Man begin to emerge.

Very shortly i'll turn 50, and i admit, a part of me is afraid.  It's hard to feel the joys of youth slip beyond my grasp forever. It's hard to know i'm no longer fertile and will never have another UM.

 
But there have been joys too.  i'm free of the risk of an unwanted or unplanned pregnancy.  i'm free of the trials and tribulations of raising a UM.  i'm even free of the need to work to support myself and my UM -- i have a pension now. i'll never again lie awake at night and worry whether some politico will come hunting for me.

i haven't changed very much in appearance since i was about 35.  There are no crow's feet; no laugh line, nothing.

 
i did gain weight a couple of years ago when my thyroid function failed, and i'm overweight for the first time in my life.  That's a little hard to handle -- i still see myself as a very curvy, sexy woman.  

But oddly, even gaining weight hasn't negatively impacted my relationships with Men.  There's not a doubt in my mind that a goodly number of Men find me desirable.  i guess, in my 40's,  i just assumed that would be over by now....but my age doesn't seem to foreclose romantic possibilities -- and may even open some. 

There's so much less worry, anxiety and stress.  It's so much easier for me to be of assistance to my UM.  If things were a little different, i could be of great asistance to my nieces and nephew as well....but i take it on faith that if they really need help, they'll come to me.

i am still politically active, but in such a different way.  No more campaign work; instead, i find PACs i think are effective and work through them on issues of importance to me.  Focusing on issues rather than candidates is much more gratifying to me.

The time of self-sacrifice is over.  No more working 7 days a week to prep for trial.  No more pro bono work for the seriously distressed.  No more 'instant cash' for my UM. 

i expected to find myself at 50 looking back, reviewing my life and tallying up my accomplishments vs my regrets.  Yet instead, i actually focus on the present...and the future.  What makes me happy?  What else might be out there to discover that makes me happy?  When i do look back, i see the joys i felt in college; or in being pregnant & having my UM; or in finding my own spiritual path. 

It's as if all the bad stuff has fallen away -- the sad childhood; the bad marriage; the betrayals of politicans i gave my loyalty and time to -- all of it.  i remember -- but s'how i don't feel the sadness anymore.

i've accepted that i cannot know what life will be like for me as i continue to age. For the first time, it seems possible, even likely, that even old age may hold joys i cannot yet foresee.  i can't remember ever being so open to Life before.

A/anyone else finding pleasant surprises as T/they age?

pinkieplum




kiwisub12 -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 1:24:33 PM)

Oh yeah - i am truly happy now, less stressed, and more disciplined as far as money and "keeping up the Jones" goes. I have less desire to buy stuff just for the sake of buying stuff. What makes me happy now is spending time with Sir and my kids, reading , and craft stuff.
I don't want overtime pay - i want my time outside work. I want to have the kids over and listen to them squabble about nothing and hear them laugh. I want the expression on Sirs face when he beats me and rubs my butt.
i am not as hung up on how i look and how i should loose weight. I do acknowledge this but it isn't the key to happiness that i thought it was in my 20's and 30's.  If i die overweight - oh well, (shrugs shoulders).I like who i am - weight and all.
I wish i had been this way in my 20's and 30's and most of my 40's, but i think if i hadn't been this way then i wouldn't have learnt what i have.  The key to being happy in this life is to be happy.  I can be happy anywhere, anywhen and anyhow. There is always something to be happy about. [:)]




popeye1250 -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 1:46:19 PM)

Pinkie, you don't look "overweight" in that picture!
Yeah, I focus on the "issues" now instead of politicians.
Things don't bother me so much anymore like they did when I was younger except for our inept, incompetant government.
I have a theory that the more education people in our govt have the worse it makes things but that's another thread.
I think that govt is so out of control and unresponsive to The People that we either need to have a *Major* overhaul of it or dismantle it.
One thing is for sure, The People need to have *much more control* over it!
And I don't think that congressmen and senators should be making $3,500 per week while many of the people they represent make $500 per week.
Government has become so complicated (unneccessarily) that it can no longer function effectively.
I can be a slob for a few days or a week now if I want.
When someone tries to tell me; "but this is important," I simply tell them that it may be important to "them" but not to me.
I've never been one to be afraid of anything but even less so now.
(I took a train from Boston to San Francisco and back by myself when I was 11 years old.)
Most of the things that people are "afraid" of never come to pass anyway.
On reflection I probably should have been afraid for some of the things I've done in my life but just didn't have time to at the time.
Also, I like donating money to things like the Boy and Girl scouts because I think it's important that UM's be involved in things like that at an early age.
When I was young I thought they were "squares."
And I donate money to the Red Cross and homeless shelters because I think it's important that they be there when people need them.
And I donate money to The Minutemen because they (are) there where we need them and I think that Bush should be prosecuted for dereliction of duty in that area and be forced to perform 1,000 hours of community service, ...patrolling that border with The Minutemen.
Funny, we court martial military people for not doing their duty but not civilian employees?
I've learned that having a "degree" doesn't make me any "smarter" than someone who doesn't have a "degree."
I've learned (through military experience) not to take the easy way out or to discount discipline and preparedness and that "toughness" comes from the mind not the muscles.
I'm still learning that you can't go back in time.
I've learned that I have the power to make someone smile.




ThundersCry -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 2:22:24 PM)

A great...read...Thanks.
 
I remember getting a birthday card from on of my sons for my 50th...
 
He said not only did he love me but he said he was glad I lived to see...it.
 
My life started at....50. The things I wanted in my 20`s met nothing in my 30`s...same as in 40`s...same as in 50`s...those *things* are meaningless...now.
 
Tiss the simple things I passed by and took for granted are the things that matter to me today...
 
Again....lovely post.




SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 3:06:06 PM)

i thought i was learning more patience as i got older......turns out i just dont give a shit.....gotta love maxine.

on a side note........

does getting cause one to make a gazillion different names and post under more than one at a time?  or does it just cause them to not think anyone else will notice?





proudsub -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 4:20:02 PM)

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A/anyone else finding pleasant surprises as T/they age?


I will be 62 next week and finally get senior rates at our golf course.[sm=banana.gif]




Aileen1968 -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 6:42:19 PM)

Getting older sucks.  I liked my 20's much more than my 40's.




ownedgirlie -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 8:05:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Getting older sucks.  I liked my 20's much more than my 40's.


I'm just the opposite.  I finally started learning to enjoy myself and life when I turned 40.




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/21/2008 8:07:42 PM)

it sucks being 37....i cant date them hot 21 yr olds cause im granny to them....damnit!!!!




seeksfemslave -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/22/2008 1:31:04 AM)

Trust a psychiatrist to state the blindingly obvious as tho' it were some profound insight !




pinkieplum -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/22/2008 1:42:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

i thought i was learning more patience as i got older......turns out i just dont give a shit.....gotta love maxine.

on a side note........

does getting cause one to make a gazillion different names and post under more than one at a time?  or does it just cause them to not think anyone else will notice?




Hi SeeksOnlyOne. i wondered if A/anyone was gonna comment on the fact that i 'morphed' my nick again.
 
i 'announced' the morph in the 'Introductions' Section, but i guess M/most P/pl dun read that regularly.
 
i will not be posting as 'pinksugarsub' anymore; when i 'morph', i deactivate the old profile both on the boards and on the other side, and move completely into the new nick.
 
It's just fussiness on my part i guess.  My nick matters to me, and sometimes i just don't feel the one i have fits me, or i want a fresh one.
 
It's pretty easy to tell it's still me because of the appearance of my posts.  Though i've given up on using a pink color or a size 4 font, i still alter the look of my posts -- and of course, i use slashy speech.
 
The only detriment that i can imagine to any member is that S/someone might want to read everything i've ever written.  Because my posts are listed under my various old nicks, a search like that would be difficult. 
 
But i have a hard time imagining A/anyone is interested in finding what i wrote a year ago and comparing it to what i wrote today. 
 
Hell, even i don't care. 
 
pinkieplum




pinkieplum -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/22/2008 1:51:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

it sucks being 37....i cant date them hot 21 yr olds cause im granny to them....damnit!!!!


Who says so, faerytattoedgirl? i'm sure you get approached by younger P/pl; if you wanna date T/them, by all means do so.  There's no rule against it, and if S/someone else objects, well, f**k 'em if T/they can't be more accepting.
 
pinkieplum




pinkieplum -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/22/2008 1:59:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Trust a psychiatrist to state the blindingly obvious as tho' it were some profound insight !


Actually, Eikson was considered quite the innovative thinker in his day.  Previously, the 'science' of psychology held it as an article of faith that personality was fully formed at the end of adolesence. (Freud, etc.) 
 
Sometimes it's a brillant thinker that gives the reader the -- a ha! -- moment by articulating what T/they sensed was true but had not before put into words.
 
By now i'm sure Erikson is considered 'old hat'; that's why i asked if his Theory was still being taught.
 
pinkieplum




seeksfemslave -> RE: The Joys of Age (6/22/2008 3:13:58 AM)

I believe that certain aspects of personality are fixed, but others most definitely are not.
For instance how one reacts to others changes if at all, then very slowly.

The ability to learn and reason changes a lot in my experience.
We all have our limits, maybe we expand closer to those limits.




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