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The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/18/2008 8:24:28 PM   
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“I feel a good submissive should be like an Italian Courtesan of the middle Ages. Loyal, obedient, subservient, and if you mistreat them they slit your throat before you have a chance to apologize."

 
http://www.asknenc.org/ws/information/quotes.html
 
i found this quote very provocative.
 
What are Y/your thoughts?
 
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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/18/2008 8:32:53 PM   
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There are many good comparisons to be made in courtesans when it comes to serving beautifully, sexually, gracefully, intelligently- except for the fact that all good courtesans know they must ALWAYS be in control, even as they so subtly convince the buyer otherwise.

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/18/2008 10:08:23 PM   
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If it is something I could apologize for I would hope she wouldn't slit my throat, just like I wouldn't behead her for misbehavior.

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/18/2008 10:34:31 PM   
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A better model for me would be the sassanid harem.  The girls were terrified and enslaved victims that were slowly trained and / or weeded out to be compliant, pleasing, and utterly servile.  That's fucking amore, baby.

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/18/2008 10:45:17 PM   
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DV..love the sig ;)

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/18/2008 10:52:54 PM   
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Thanks my dear.  *Begins feeding you drugs and leads you towards the dark corner*


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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/18/2008 10:58:59 PM   
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puts the kettle on ... Greedy is *SO* going to need a bracing cup of tea when this is over

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 1:40:00 AM   
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I dont know throat slicing courtesan part but I liked this quote better..

“You told me - you are woman .....Go out and conquer the world..........Then come home and sit at my feet.” The Submissive Woman

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 1:50:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

quote:

“I feel a good submissive should be like an Italian Courtesan of the middle Ages. Loyal, obedient, subservient, and if you mistreat them they slit your throat before you have a chance to apologize."

 
http://www.asknenc.org/ws/information/quotes.html
 
i found this quote very provocative.
 
What are Y/your thoughts?
 
pinksugarsub 


Hey, pinksugarsub...looks like you found a quote that describes me to a "T".  I don't have to worry about using the second part of it, though.  Mistress may hurt me, She may use and abuse me for Her own pleasure and satisfaction, She may leave bite marks on me, She may encase me in multiple layers of tight rubber and treat me badly, but She'd never mistreat Her Pikachu!   

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 4:31:40 AM   
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puts the kettle on ... Greedy is *SO* going to need a bracing cup of tea when this is over


(yay!!)

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 4:34:35 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

“I feel a good submissive should be like an Italian Courtesan of the middle Ages. Loyal, obedient, subservient, and if you mistreat them they slit your throat before you have a chance to apologize."
 


Yeah I found a good one too

"I feel a good submissive is like a car in the modern world, Loyal, Obedient, Subservient and if you mistreat it will rust to buggery and break down everytime you go to the shops without a second thought"

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:03:29 AM   
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If it is something I could apologize for I would hope she wouldn't slit my throat, just like I wouldn't behead her for misbehavior.


Michael, i believe that is meant to be read as a metaphor, not a "factoid', lol.
 
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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:10:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

There are many good comparisons to be made in courtesans when it comes to serving beautifully, sexually, gracefully, intelligently- except for the fact that all good courtesans know they must ALWAYS be in control, even as they so subtly convince the buyer otherwise.


I agree with this.

The only I would see such a courtesan or prostitute of any class being submissive to is really the person who runs their business -- a madame, a pimp, themselves.

One might also argue money is another thing they submit to but then how true is that for most people through history since the creation of a money-based economy?


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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:12:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterHermes

I dont know throat slicing courtesan part but I liked this quote better..

“You told me - you are woman .....Go out and conquer the world..........Then come home and sit at my feet.” The Submissive Woman



Yea, i liked that one too, MasterHermes; i wanted to use it in my sig line or under my avatar in my profile on the boards.  The site i linked in the Op was full of great quotes, i thought.  Too bad CollarMe limits U/us as to the number of letters in sig lines, etc. i'd have added more.
 
BTW, great nick, MasterHermes. i really like it -- Hermes is one of the few 'designer labels' i've ever lusted after.
 
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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:17:15 AM   
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Pink
 
    Thanks for posting those !!
  some really good ones..
 
“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.” Anais Nin
     Always loved that quote...

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:17:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rubberpet

quote:

ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

quote:

“I feel a good submissive should be like an Italian Courtesan of the middle Ages. Loyal, obedient, subservient, and if you mistreat them they slit your throat before you have a chance to apologize."

 
http://www.asknenc.org/ws/information/quotes.html
 
i found this quote very provocative.
 
What are Y/your thoughts?
 
pinksugarsub 


Hey, pinksugarsub...looks like you found a quote that describes me to a "T".  I don't have to worry about using the second part of it, though.  Mistress may hurt me, She may use and abuse me for Her own pleasure and satisfaction, She may leave bite marks on me, She may encase me in multiple layers of tight rubber and treat me badly, but She'd never mistreat Her Pikachu!   


rubberpet, my congratulations on yr collar.  Sounds like yr very happy -- i envy you.
 
i took the 'throat sliting' phrase as a metaphor.  But W/who knows?  i've been told S/some P/pl are into very extreme fetishes and kinks.
 
i wish you many years of continued happiness in yr collar.
 
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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:19:35 AM   
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If it is something I could apologize for I would hope she wouldn't slit my throat, just like I wouldn't behead her for misbehavior.


And they say romance is dead.  

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:21:01 AM   
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a fairly good warning for those to think twice about mistreating me.

i will "slice, dice and vivisect" your throat apart with my words and i have done it before.

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:34:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

There are many good comparisons to be made in courtesans when it comes to serving beautifully, sexually, gracefully, intelligently- except for the fact that all good courtesans know they must ALWAYS be in control, even as they so subtly convince the buyer otherwise.


I agree with this.

The only I would see such a courtesan or prostitute of any class being submissive to is really the person who runs their business -- a madame, a pimp, themselves.

One might also argue money is another thing they submit to but then how true is that for most people through history since the creation of a money-based economy?



i guess i don't know as much as you about 19th century courtesans, thetammjo. i always thought they were akin to a Beta slave, because durirng the Victorian era, 'proper' ladies who became the wives of priviledged men were taught never to enjoy sex in any way....so the husband would take a courtesan as a kind of 'second wife'. She would be wanton and lustful in bed, fulfilling his wants/needs as well as hers.
 
 
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A single word can sometimes embody a thousand images and ideas, and some words are so colourful that it would be impossible to attempt to seek a concise definition. Perhaps this is true of the evocative idea of a courtesan, a word which conjures images of intrigue, beauty, wealth, power, sex, and mystery, and to this day clouds the ancestry of wealth and nobility with a veil of mist. A popular theme for Hollywood and novelists alike, the sophistication of the courtesan has moulded the political destinies of empires and religions for centuries, from Anne Boleyn to Camilla Parker Bowles. Wars have been fought over them, royal dynasties have risen and fallen because of them, and even the great schism of the Catholic Church was caused by one.

 
Human history and the survival of nations are shaped by 'great' people and the passage of their genes, the acquisition of such genes controlling the inheritance and control of vast estates or empires. Sexual liaisons within circles of wealth and power have long been fraught with risk and intrigue, from the Empress Theodora of Byzantium (500-548) to the conspiracies surrounding the death of Marilyn Monroe, mistress of the Kennedy brothers. Such women have risen, manipulated, ruled and captured the popular imagination, inspiring fear, hatred and adoration alike. In nature there is no greater power than the King’s bed chamber, and no closer confidant than the pillow.


http://www.icqurimage.com/Magazine/courtesan.html
 
i'd a lot rather be given 'courtesan' as a pet name by my Dom than the much more commonplace 'slut'.
 
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and their historical legacy

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RE: The Submissive and The Courtesan - 6/19/2008 5:37:50 AM   
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Pink you do that a lot, find a favourable quote from random sources, you know that for almost any argument you can find articles written to prove any argument?

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