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dragon2760 -> Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 4:46:10 AM)

What do you do with that sub/slave who enjoys a good spanking?  Do you ritualize the spankings to create a mind set toward punishment or are there other things you would do for punishment instead??



Madame4a -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 5:25:37 AM)

I don't really spank much -- although I have.  Its not in my top list of things I love.

I don't punish, I find it parental and not what I'm interested in.

I also would not react positively to someone acting out trying to force me to do that -- I don't play or pretend that anything is something its not.

whoa.. need coffee.. hope that made sense



sirsholly -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 5:28:08 AM)

there is a HUGE difference between an erotic spanking and one that is for punishment...even though they may be the same in intensity.
It is all about the mindset...



Domin8tingUrDrmz -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 5:32:42 AM)

If a submissive enjoys spanking, and you are not averse to it, why not include that as reward for good behavior? It might prevent them from attempting to manipulate you into doing it by acting in ways you do not approve.

The only way I'd spank someone who enjoyed spankings, for punishment, is if I were attempting to change their opinion on the activity - or if we were doing a 'play punishment scene' (where both know it isn't REALLY punishment at all).

edited for ease of reading.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 8:06:33 AM)

I love to spank, its my favorite fetish~~but there is a world of difference between a fun spanking and a "how dare you" spanking.  I would not use something that was pleasurable for punishment, anyway.



selena123 -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 10:07:24 AM)

If he/she likes spankings then I inflict punishment another way or with a different type of pain.



RumpusParable -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 11:14:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dragon2760

What do you do with that sub/slave who enjoys a good spanking?  Do you ritualize the spankings to create a mind set toward punishment or are there other things you would do for punishment instead??


Either do something other than spanking or let them know that *this* spanking is for punishment.  For some, the reason for the spanking doesn't matter in their enjoyment, for others it matters greatly.  Gotta know your spankee.



azropedntied -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 1:26:14 PM)

there are far worse punishment s than any spanking i have ever had, Ignore being the main one .However the masses are correct in the degree of spanking and or corpral punishiment type VS "spanking ". 



MistressSybella -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 4:25:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dragon2760

What do you do with that sub/slave who enjoys a good spanking?  Do you ritualize the spankings to create a mind set toward punishment or are there other things you would do for punishment instead??


My last live-in was a total painslut and therefore, hard to punish when it came to spankings. For her, I would do what I could to not make it a pleasure; cold whacks, or ritualized situations.

Miss 'Bella
ServeMeWell



bashfulhuck -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 4:55:59 PM)

Spanking wouldn't work so well for me as a punishment. My Domina had other ways of making me sorry for messing up, she would have me stand in uncomfortable positions for long periods of time, they would start out being uncomfortable, but over time would get to be quite painful, and not in a yummy way.
But mmmmmm, when she would put me over her knee in play, OMG that was so nice. i guess i must be a bit of a painslut myself LOL.

the bashful one



MsStarlett -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 4:58:46 PM)

You have to find a punishment that suits each sub.  What works on one doesn't work on the next.  I find 'corner time' and ignoring the boy to be the most successful punishments.  A good "I'm so angry I can't even LOOK at you.  Get out of my sight!" has worked just as well for most of my boy toys as it did for my sons.



bashfulhuck -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 5:11:08 PM)

mmmmm, There's MsStarlett!! Hi there Lady!!!!    [:D]

Edited to include: Sorry, i just got excited at you being online is all..



MsStarlett -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 6:19:55 PM)

Does that mean I can turn you over my knee to work in a butt plug?



dragon2760 -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/11/2008 9:16:49 PM)

Thanks for the answers.  i really did want to know what others thought about this.  For me, i do love a good spanking but if Mistress is doing it because She is displeased with me then it does take on a whole different meaning.  For me it is about the mind set. 



bashfulhuck -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/12/2008 12:00:25 AM)

You wouldn't catch me complaining one little bit MsStarlett hehe. Hopefully when you do it though, you throw in a good ass kicking to go with it [;)]



rob425 -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/17/2008 12:16:00 AM)

i really enjoy spankings in play myself so the dominants I have been with don't use it as punishment but there was one that for punishment decided to spank me and there was quite a difference instead of gradual build to the bigger toys she immediately went for the fraternity-like paddle and let loose that punishment was quite effective as i had no joy in recieving that...Also the after care of rubbing it was non-existent



HarryVanWinkle -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/17/2008 12:25:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Madame4a
I don't really spank much -- although I have.  Its not in my top list of things I love.

I don't punish, I find it parental and not what I'm interested in.

I also would not react positively to someone acting out trying to force me to do that -- I don't play or pretend that anything is something its not.

whoa.. need coffee.. hope that made sense


I have to agree with this.  I'm not much on the whole "punishment" paradigm.  I'm an adult and I only play with adults.  I get tortured because I LIKE it and the tops I play with do too.  I torture because I like it as well, and because my submissive does as well.



MasterFireMaam -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/17/2008 1:55:23 AM)

Try a reward system of spankings.

Master Fire




MaamJay -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/17/2008 7:41:38 AM)

Punishment is a last resort from Me and indicates I have failed to communicate what I wanted well enough OR the sub is sufficiently disenchanted with their choice to serve Me that they are willing to be flagrantly disobedient. Either way, it's "Houston we have a problem!" and one that punishment in and of itself, is unlikely to resolve.

I love to spank and for that reason I would never want to use it as a form of punishment. I don't want to get into the trap of enjoying the act of punishing ... for then it would be possible to slip into finding fault so I could enjoy inflicting the punishment ... not the sort of dynamic I want to create. Also because I love to spank, naturally subs who get past first base with Me love to be spanked ... which makes spanking a reward rather than a punishment. And while I don't doubt there are ways to deliver a punishment spanking, that would be a different mindset, I don't want to blur the lines between pleasure and punishment in such a way. I would rather deliver a punishment such as extra tasks, withdrawal of privileges so that the sub doesn't enjoy it and that is neutral to Me ... or in more extreme cases, something that actually causes distress or deprivation to both sub and Myself ... thereby adding some guilt to their burden. But as I said, it's not a desired part of My dynamic.

As a sub, the mere threat of corner time (Master knows that would work on me as that's what my mother used to use LOL!) ... is enough to haul me into line really quickly! He and i don't wish to get into the whole punishment thing either. As others have said, we are adults and shouldn't have to resort to such things.

Maam Jay aka violet[A]



Shawn1066 -> RE: Spankings as Punishment (6/17/2008 8:54:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dragon2760

What do you do with that sub/slave who enjoys a good spanking?  Do you ritualize the spankings to create a mind set toward punishment or are there other things you would do for punishment instead??


I've never been punished, however, I'm absolutely aware that something I enjoy in one context wouldn't necessarily be enjoyable in a punishment context at all.  I have been minorly corrected by my Owner a time or two.  One time, when I accidentally pulled my hand free from my escape binding when it wasn't called for, she tapped me lightly on the shoulder and said, "No."

I got upset and nearly cried my eyes out, which was a total overreaction on my part.

I'm a masochist.  I do enjoy pain in the right situation.  I simply don't enjoy being, in my eyes, a disappointment on any level.

So yes, a spanking--something I enjoy very much--would make me cry my eyes out as a punishment.

Of course, earning a punishment is something I'd have to try very hard to do, not saying that I'm above bad behavior, because I'm just as fallable at any other human being...  It's just something that would be a rather unfortunate event for the both of us.  It's something that could be fixed, like anything else, but it would be rather unfortunate...

DV's Fox



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