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So how is it in America these days - it was generally accepted that racists hadta be white, no? 
 
But then I yousta have a quiet chuckle when the champions of democracy would proudly proclaim that any American could become Prez....  Lol, yeah, any filthy rich, white, male American.  Looks like one stereotype is about to change.
 
Focus.

Focus, nope, that won't change.

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So how is it in America these days - it was generally accepted that racists hadta be white, no? 
 
But then I yousta have a quiet chuckle when the champions of democracy would proudly proclaim that any American could become Prez....  Lol, yeah, any filthy rich, white, male American.  Looks like one stereotype is about to change.
 
Focus.

Focus, nope, that won't change.

Popeye if you look at Katylied's link one of the things that might just jump out at you is the huge support Obama recieved from those under 30.It would seem's to me this group is voting in record numbers ...and most of them will be casting thier vote for the Democratic nominee...could be change has arrived

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I'm an angry democratic Jew and I'd vote for Obama HUSSEIN any day. If I could.

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So how is it in America these days - it was generally accepted that racists hadta be white, no? 
 
But then I yousta have a quiet chuckle when the champions of democracy would proudly proclaim that any American could become Prez....  Lol, yeah, any filthy rich, white, male American.  Looks like one stereotype is about to change.
 
Focus.

Focus, nope, that won't change.

Popeye if you look at Katylied's link one of the things that might just jump out at you is the huge support Obama recieved from those under 30.It would seem's to me this group is voting in record numbers ...and most of them will be casting thier vote for the Democratic nominee...could be change has arrived

First off the only time government changes is if there is a civil war or revolution. Otherwise it continues as business as usual. Congress will continue their corrupt ways, and the wars will continue. It's the same show....just different characters.
The old saying goes....the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Second, the youth historically does not vote. And in 2000 and 2004 the enthusiasm was very high among the youth. MTV and many different programs tried very, very hard to increase voter registration and such. And many, many of the youth registered to vote. But they didn't show up on election day. It's easy to respond to someone when they walk up to you and ask you to register and sign you up. But it's another to get the motivation to get out of work/school and get to the polls and actually cast a ballot. Most young adults simply do not feel their vote counts.
[/quote)The problem of apathy amongst those eligible to vote in this country can hardly be restricted to youthful voters alone.Like most demographics most non-voters would cite a suspician that their vote "doesn't matter",or as you said nothing really changes...But it would seem Obama's candidicy has energised legions of new voters and it seems to me they aren't content to just make noise in the street,much as my generation did in the 60's and early 70's before we all got a little jaded and disinterested .Now of course this is just my own opinion,but these kids seem more inclined to join the process rather than rail about it from outside the tent.we shall see come Nov. just how committed these new voters are...but as Bob Dylan sang "the times they are a changing....IMHO

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Poll in the midwest and you'll find state after state of racist voters.  I'm surprised they voted for Obama in the first place.

Yes, it will be an issue.  I've now read for the 4th time about the Michelle Obama "whitey" tape.  I'm beginning to believe they don't have one yet keep the hype alive just because.

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 I'd love to hear what he meant by that.

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I disagree. The youth in the 70s were much, much, much more politically active than the youth today. The reason may have very well have been the draft. Many were seeing their classmates being forced to go to Vietnam and come back dead or injured. Today, the youth that go over to Iraq volunteered. So it's a different set of circumstances and the activism isnt anywhere near as strong. Not even close.

As for throwing out old race models....might work for the youth but not the old. Bringing a black candidate to the ticket is going to bring back memories of the 1960s and could bring racism right back into American politics. That is why some people are saying we may not be ready for a black president. The generation that had such an issue with race is the biggest voting bloc right now. The generation that is most non-racial (the youth) really havnt established themselves in the electorate yet.

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I disagree. The youth in the 70s were much, much, much more politically active than the youth today. The reason may have very well have been the draft. Many were seeing their classmates being forced to go to Vietnam and come back dead or injured. Today, the youth that go over to Iraq volunteered. So it's a different set of circumstances and the activism isnt anywhere near as strong. Not even close.
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Again CyberDude can't argue with your basic premise,but what happened to all that activism...a lot of noise in the streets and than disillusionment, blame it on Nixon ,Watergate the end of the draft hell blame it on the drugs.My point was this generation seems to be doing there noise making from inside the tent,not in the streets.They IMO seem much more engaged in the process and not as prone to the distractions my generation fell prey to

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I disagree. The youth in the 70s were much, much, much more politically active than the youth today. The reason may have very well have been the draft. Many were seeing their classmates being forced to go to Vietnam and come back dead or injured. Today, the youth that go over to Iraq volunteered. So it's a different set of circumstances and the activism isnt anywhere near as strong. Not even close.
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Again CyberDude can't argue with your basic premise,but what happened to all that activism...a lot of noise in the streets and than disillusionment, blame it on Nixon ,Watergate the end of the draft hell blame it on the drugs.My point was this generation seems to be doing there noise making from inside the tent,not in the streets.They IMO seem much more engaged in the process and not as prone to the distractions my generation fell prey to

The government controls the youth by saturating us with mass media full of garbage.  Such as that government-funded idiotic movie "Stop-Loss" ...trying to brainwash the youth by overglamourizing patriotism and linking it to the issue of complying with orders or not to return to a disorganized war.  This totally ignores whether the person in office is fucked up or not by starting and continuing this war that's going nowhere, in effect making them "patriotic" and easily manipulated by whatever moron or old geezer--war pig--steps into office. 

Who controls how we think and what we think?  Now who controls the media?  The ones paying the media, that's who.  The government has diverted our attention and oversaturated our society with a bunch of garbledeegunk of shit that no one really cares about, but that is supposed to be "really cool".  One good thing about the outrageous and senseless atrocities from this war, is that it is forcing us to pay more attention (in a better way, i suppose as is progress learning from the past) to the less-exciting (than movies or games) matters of politics. 

Bush, has tried to stop this by using fear, blind faith, and supporting his motives for power by linking his actions with the will of the bible.  He's a fucking idiot. 

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 I'd love to hear what he meant by that.

"That" has been explained at length by the man in question... which is why I doubt very much that you really want to know what was meant by it.