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missturbation -> Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 10:03:58 AM)

For over 12 months i have only 'played' with one Dom (Dom 1). In my opinion we 'play' pretty hard, severe bruising, blood, permanent scarring from whips, knives etc. Please no judgement on this as this isn't really what the thread is about. There was never any build up to hard play. From day one in a public dungeon it has always just been this way and i love it.
 
 Recently i have been talking about playing with someone else on a temporary / irregular basis as well (Dom 2). When we were talking things through i basically said 'i don't want this to start off hard play, i'd rather build it up'. His response was 'ok but if Dom 1 plays hard with you why cant i?'
 
Good question which due to another distraction i didn't answer. Truth is i'm not sure why! I know i really like  hard play but don't feel that hard play with  Dom 2 would be right at this time. The first Dom isn't regular or permanent just like Dom 2 so it can't be that. I've known Dom 2 longer than Dom 1 and trust him just as implicitly as i trust Dom 1, So its not that either.
 
I'm at a bit of a loss to be honest! Any ideas?
 
Oh and just to throw something into the mix i'm in negotiation with someone else who ive known quite a while and i can't wait for him to get his hands on me. Im even looking forward to the caning i've been promised even though i despise the cane with a vengeance.
 
Go figure !!




softness -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 10:27:38 AM)

I have no idea why this happens .. but I had a similar thing last week

The last few months I have been playing in public with fairly random strangers in clubs .. well not random .. known to me through the scene ... but not in a relationship with me. With those play partners I can take a sound beating .. with no hysteria or trauma. I dont cry from it, I dont beg it to stop, I enjoy it ... I beg for more 

Last week with Sir .. i became hysterical from a light paddling ... like sobbing, begging, bouncing the spanking bench across the room to get away ... I was shocked by how little I was able to take ... now Sir was hurting me more, being considerably harder on me ... but still I have taken worse than that for longer .. without the tears at bed time

After talking it over ... its context .. what is between the people involved .. and the foundation of the relationship (purely play / emotional / romantic / service based) all these things contribute to how the play turns out.





kyraofMists -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 10:28:01 AM)

Answer....

My relationship/interactions that I have with one person has no bearing or impact on the relationship/interactions I choose to have with another person.  My boundaries with one are not the same as my boundaries with another. 

Relationships are unique; either they accept and understand that or they don't.

Knight's Kyra




missturbation -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 10:34:23 AM)

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After talking it over ... its context .. what is between the people involved .. and the foundation of the relationship (purely play / emotional / romantic / service based) all these things contribute to how the play turns out.


Good point, i'll think on that.
 
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My relationship/interactions that I have with one person has no bearing or impact on the relationship/interactions I choose to have with another person.  My boundaries with one are not the same as my boundaries with another. 


See narrow mindedly i was thinking along the lines of they are the same.
Irregular, temporary and people ive known for a long while.
You are right though it doesnt mean we should all share the same dynamic.






OmegaG -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 10:47:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

For over 12 months i have only 'played' with one Dom (Dom 1). In my opinion we 'play' pretty hard, severe bruising, blood, permanent scarring from whips, knives etc. Please no judgement on this as this isn't really what the thread is about. There was never any build up to hard play. From day one in a public dungeon it has always just been this way and i love it.
 


Can't I judge if I'm going to say "wow, hot, hot, HOT!"

With each person you meet there is going to be a different dynamic and no one can recreate the dynamic you share with another.  If you need the build up wiht #2, you need it.  He's not #1 he brings his own aura and dynamic which blends with yours to create a personal chemistry that only you two can share.  He should see that he's creating his own personal history with you and has to write it from the beginning.




bashfulhuck -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 10:51:17 AM)

softness really hit the nail on the head i think. You just have a different dynamic with Dom 2 is all, and hopefully he will respect that and nurture it.
In my opinion, He should be thrilled that you don't want to do things exactly like you do with Dom 1, that you have a unique relationship with him.
And i'm totally with omega, can i be allowed to judge your dynamic? Because the hardcore play to me is so seriously hot. It's scary as hell to me, but also a HUGE turn on.




LaTigresse -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 11:11:18 AM)

I cannot imagine someone not understanding this actually. Unless I am just weird, okay I am but....

There are things I have done with someone in the past that I have never felt the slightest interest in sharing with another. There are also things I would have never done with/to her, that I will with keary. Different people bring out different aspects of my nature. With one I may be very nurturing and gentle with very little sadistic play, and with another more harsh.

Different people bring different energies and dynamics to a relationship. How our energies meld, what comes of that, is what makes it interesting.






LadyHibiscus -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 11:25:05 AM)

It's all in how you feel that connection....   No big deal, and hard to explain, since it's a more emotional than logical thing.

Regarding pain tolerance, that can fluctuate wildly~~sunspots?  hormones?   No idea.  I know that if a person who normally has a high tolerance starts freaking out, it's just not going to happen that day. 




crouchingtigress -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 11:32:10 AM)

i think the reason poly folks are poly is because we know we cant get all the aspect of our needs met by one person....its ok to have a differnt need met by a differnt lover....in fact i doubt you would be even a little interested in dom 2 if he offered the exact thing as dom1 am i right?




missturbation -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 5:49:42 PM)

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Can't I judge if I'm going to say "wow, hot, hot, HOT!"

You surely can [:D]
 
quote:

He should see that he's creating his own personal history with you and has to write it from the beginning.

I like this way of explaining it [:)]




Alumbrado -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 5:56:21 PM)

No, that isn't a 'good question',  it is a red flag. 

You don't owe anyone who is casually playing you for the first time any explanations on your limits... 'I just don't feel like it' is just fine.




missturbation -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 6:01:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bashfulhuck

softness really hit the nail on the head i think. You just have a different dynamic with Dom 2 is all, and hopefully he will respect that and nurture it.
In my opinion, He should be thrilled that you don't want to do things exactly like you do with Dom 1, that you have a unique relationship with him.

I'm sure he will be, i just couldnt find the way to explain it to him.

quote:

And i'm totally with omega, can i be allowed to judge your dynamic? Because the hardcore play to me is so seriously hot. It's scary as hell to me, but also a HUGE turn on.

Its ok i scare myself sometimes. Its all good though [:D]




missturbation -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 6:04:02 PM)

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I cannot imagine someone not understanding this actually. Unless I am just weird, okay I am but....

My head has been a shed recently and im having trouble understanding the simplest of things. [:D]




missturbation -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 6:07:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

i think the reason poly folks are poly is because we know we cant get all the aspect of our needs met by one person....its ok to have a differnt need met by a differnt lover....in fact i doubt you would be even a little interested in dom 2 if he offered the exact thing as dom1 am i right?


You're right. Dom 1 meets my physical needs to be beaten and fucked to put it bluntly.
Dom 2 fulfills me more on the emotional side.




Owner4SexSlave -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 6:31:28 PM)

I Love this topic..  In fact I was wondering about why I've been a bit more sadistic with somebody right at the get go and less with somebody else.   I was mulling around something along the lines of Sadistic attraction.   Interesting topic, and I'm just at a loss to why this happens. 




luvablekajira -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 6:32:45 PM)

hello every one




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 6:41:32 PM)

Because you're not Dom 1 and we don't have that relationship.

There really shouldn't be any need to explain- if he can't enjoy what there is to enjoy without pouting or comparing, then he shouldn't do it.

It's an essential part of polyamory to nurture and treat each relationship as its own unique dynamic (which it is) even as it exists amongst others.

You can ask if he asked his mommy why his brother got to kiss girls and he didn't.




lauren0221 -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 6:48:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

No, that isn't a 'good question',  it is a red flag. 

You don't owe anyone who is casually playing you for the first time any explanations on your limits... 'I just don't feel like it' is just fine.


That's actually just what I was thinking. When I have had someone say, "You did it for him, why won't you do it for me?", what I hear is insecurity and lack of dominance. No two relationships are going to be identical, and it is apparently quite important to me that that is understood.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 6:58:59 PM)

Well, it's like one guy saying, "Well, if he can fuck you, why can't I?" Because these are individual choices based on individual people, that's why. Oh, and I may not like you in the morning.

Master FIre




Prinsexx -> RE: Different strokes for different folks !! (6/4/2008 7:30:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

For over 12 months i have only 'played' with one Dom (Dom 1). In my opinion we 'play' pretty hard, severe bruising, blood, permanent scarring from whips, knives etc. Please no judgement on this as this isn't really what the thread is about. There was never any build up to hard play. From day one in a public dungeon it has always just been this way and i love it.
 
 Recently i have been talking about playing with someone else on a temporary / irregular basis as well (Dom 2). When we were talking things through i basically said 'i don't want this to start off hard play, i'd rather build it up'. His response was 'ok but if Dom 1 plays hard with you why cant i?'
 
Good question which due to another distraction i didn't answer. Truth is i'm not sure why! I know i really like  hard play but don't feel that hard play with  Dom 2 would be right at this time. The first Dom isn't regular or permanent just like Dom 2 so it can't be that. I've known Dom 2 longer than Dom 1 and trust him just as implicitly as i trust Dom 1, So its not that either.
 
I'm at a bit of a loss to be honest! Any ideas?
 
Oh and just to throw something into the mix i'm in negotiation with someone else who ive known quite a while and i can't wait for him to get his hands on me. Im even looking forward to the caning i've been promised even though i despise the cane with a vengeance.
 
Go figure !!

Dear missturbation:
first off, icky girl.
Second , in my purely personal opinion and in answer to your question: the answer is easy for me (if I were you that is, which I'm not if you see what I mean) but I will explain....
I am an empath. That is that I empathise deeply with almost everyone I meet. It's also knwn as 'deep empathic understanding'. This natural ability I put down to being an identical twin. I was always the socially extroverted one. I was always the one that did the 'going and getting' for my twin.  I was he one who also laid down all the memories for her. We have talked about this. She has what we call 'content free memory' that is to say she remembers when I remind her, or i recall things for her (even now) but not before. It was as if we had one ego that got split but remained conjoined even though we have, obviously, two separate bodies. It's as f we don't and we move and share a common 'mental' space in the world.
I react to almost everyone as if this is the case. It forms the basis of how I am as a slav/sub. I can move around someone I am in a dynamic with as if i am an extention to their body, serving their needs in a kind of unison. Simple things like passing them a pen just before they need that pen to write something down when the telephone rings.
BUT in d/s play it expresses itself more cogently as needing the kind of play that THEY need rather than any base line likes or desires or similaruty of desires that I have. In other words my needs are completely relational. If that D type needs that sort of behaviour from me then I can pick up on what that is as an instinct.
It also forms the basis of why I can easily be with more than one person in intimate relationship at the same time. It is because 'I' don't form the loxus of needs; they do.
Now I ma not saying that one has to be a twin in order to be deeply empathic. but you have asked the question as if you have compartmentalised different needs in each relationship whereas ir makes sense to me to interpret what you are doing as simply being deeply empathic with each Dom. You are actually talking about their needs and not your own. In the deepest empathic relationships one's own needs and the other's needs are crossed over. That's not the same as having weak boundaries by the way. Although it doesn't feel natural for me to do so I can close down (this I have had to learn to do). I can retreat and shut down against the needs of another. It feels like being an amoeba (sp?) that has been attacked; it's like an nstant retreat into myself that i feel when i feel endangered.. It's like a withdrawal.
They are lucky doms to have you honeychild.
Ed to add; I don't know if I would want to discuss the needs of one dominant with another 9sorry if i mis-read what you were saying haopened). And although it's difficult not to, i would also have to guard against comparing others against a base line or to each other. Although it might feel like you are stating what YOUR needs are and they are different with each Dom if I were you? I would dig a little deeper to find out exactly what my distinct needs are.
I also think you're doing great and it sounds like you are having the time of your life.




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