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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 9:08:28 AM   
hejira92


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I don't understand the logic here.. if she's a filthy bitch, why would you fuck her in the first place?


I think lack of communication skills is the answer here... If I am picking up the gyst of it... he is talking about a humiliation play headspace but trying to present it here (by design or accident) as litteral fact.If he indeed views her and cum as 'filthy' then to Me that only comes from represed guilt complex about sex and sexuality. YMMV

If it is about the play side, then I 'get' his point though it is badly presented.



Ah, yes. The difference between "a" filthy bitch and "MY" filthy bitch.
 
Objectify me, use me, cum on me and send me to clean up the toy (namely me), and Master has made me a happy girl!
 
IMO, if it's all about equity and "good for the goose, good for the gander", it ain't D/s.

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 9:24:26 AM   
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hejira quote:

IMO, if it's all about equity and "good for the goose, good for the gander", it ain't D/s.


Thanks for your point of you. I'm glad it works for you, hejira.

My comment that "what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander",was made from my point of view regarding, specifically, kissing my girl after I cum in her mouth. It would be a mistake to extrapolate that thought to cover PE or a D/s relationship.

In my opinion, there is nothing nasty about cum or pussy juices. This gander has no problem gobbling my own from her lips, or gobbling betwixt her thighs and sharing that with her.


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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 9:38:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hejira92

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

I don't understand the logic here.. if she's a filthy bitch, why would you fuck her in the first place?


I think lack of communication skills is the answer here... If I am picking up the gyst of it... he is talking about a humiliation play headspace but trying to present it here (by design or accident) as litteral fact.If he indeed views her and cum as 'filthy' then to Me that only comes from represed guilt complex about sex and sexuality. YMMV

If it is about the play side, then I 'get' his point though it is badly presented.



Ah, yes. The difference between "a" filthy bitch and "MY" filthy bitch.
 
Objectify me, use me, cum on me and send me to clean up the toy (namely me), and Master has made me a happy girl!
 
IMO, if it's all about equity and "good for the goose, good for the gander", it ain't D/s.


I agree, and that's how I see it as well, but I think some people like to go into a play headspace of loving romance;  Nothing wrong with that of course.  Different strokes for different folks.

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 9:39:06 AM   
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hejira quote:

IMO, if it's all about equity and "good for the goose, good for the gander", it ain't D/s.


Thanks for your point of you. I'm glad it works for you, hejira.

My comment that "what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander",was made from my point of view regarding, specifically, kissing my girl after I cum in her mouth. It would be a mistake to extrapolate that thought to cover PE or a D/s relationship.

In my opinion, there is nothing nasty about cum or pussy juices. This gander has no problem gobbling my own from her lips, or gobbling betwixt her thighs and sharing that with her.



I wasn't refering specifically to your comment, cjan, just the overall feeling I was getting from many of the posts. It was sounding an awful lot like vanilla, with everyone demanding fairness. Personally, I am an owned sub. His preferences are what happens in bed (or the floor, or the bench, or the living room, or the... whatever) - whether I like it or not (but I usually do ). And I wouldn't want it any other way.

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 9:57:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't hear anyone demanding fairness, just that many of us don't look at our partner and say "yuck".  Most of the objections to semen come from guys who subconsciously fear becoming gay if they touch it, even accidentally.  Same reason most bdsm events women sucking off women is fine but the moment a man whips out a rigid cock alarm bells go off.

I have no problem using BSB and ignoring her pleas to stop but the reality of what is going on is far more complex.  If someone truly just wanted to be "used" they could be used by just anyone as lots of men want nothing more and frankly couldn't offer more if they tried.   You chose CuffKinks for a reason, I am sure he isn't the first to want to use you!  It is because he makes you feel something more is going on than just being "used" and that is the "more" we are talking about.

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 9:59:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hejira92 

the overall feeling I was getting from many of the posts. It was sounding an awful lot like vanilla, with everyone demanding fairness.


I had the same thought as well - I very much appreciate the fact that submissives have their different personalities, as well as that we all have our sensitivities - Dom or sub, and personally I like to my partner to feel desired in a lot of different ways, but the discussion of what is 'fair' in connection with this strikes me as really odd. And in my book, basically, when I say something is fair, I don't expect any opposition.

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 12:18:56 PM   
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I want to see my handywork all over her face and dribbling down her chin.......no swallowing allowed in this home (I have a few no swallowing signs with red lines through them on my walls).

Kiss afterwards? What? Bring me down to her level? The dirty bitch goes to the bathroom and has a good wash....


Guess the after "ass to mouth" kiss is out then??


'Not my style.....although I could stretch to you fetching me a beer and a pie......

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 12:47:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

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I don't understand the logic here.. if she's a filthy bitch, why would you fuck her in the first place?


I think lack of communication skills is the answer here... If I am picking up the gyst of it... he is talking about a humiliation play headspace but trying to present it here (by design or accident) as litteral fact.If he indeed views her and cum as 'filthy' then to Me that only comes from represed guilt complex about sex and sexuality. YMMV

If it is about the play side, then I 'get' his point though it is badly presented.



Humiliation? Calling a woman a filthy bitch is pretty much in the realms of vanilla and wouldn't raise an eye-lid where I come from.........perhaps we hold opposing views on that which constitutes humiliation.....

'Seems like you and I are very different men, Raven. 'No problem here; 'the way of life.

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 1:01:23 PM   
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Raven and I have butted heads a few times and clearly don't always  see eye to eye but you are so far below his league if you can't grasp what he just posted that I would follow Lincoln's advice about being quiet if I were you.

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 1:03:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gent, do you actually see her as being a filthy whore that's beneath you, or is it just a play thing?

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 1:06:26 PM   
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Gent,

Raven and I have butted heads a few times and clearly don't always  see eye to eye but you are so far below his league if you can't grasp what he just posted that I would follow Lincoln's advice about being quiet if I were you.



I prefer your advice, Michael, seeing as you're a man in the know and all.....

Hats off for exerting sufficient control to exclude Jay Wiseman from one of your posts, by the way.




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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 1:09:24 PM   
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You are going overboard, the whole point was to be subtle and make me look good, now they are going to KNOW I am paying you to make me look good.  Is it too late to get a refund?  Jay Wiseman would give one to me.

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 1:16:53 PM   
NorthernGent


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Gent, do you actually see her as being a filthy whore that's beneath you, or is it just a play thing?



She's many things to me...a Jill of all trades so to speak........sometimes a loving and cherished companion; at other times a sexy bitch; at other times a filthy disgusting slut with no more right to live on God's clean earth than a weasel....

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RE: Swallow and I won't kiss you? - 5/31/2008 1:20:46 PM   
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Gent,

You are going overboard, the whole point was to be subtle and make me look good, now they are going to KNOW I am paying you to make me look good.  Is it too late to get a refund?  Jay Wiseman would give one to me.



Take this one on the house, Michael; the pleasure is all mine. Who needs subtlety when the truth is staring the cyber world in the face?



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