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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/29/2008 10:13:45 PM   
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Shit, I meant endorphins and typed pheremones instead. I guess I have pheremoans on da brain... Better go for a run in the a.m. 

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/29/2008 10:21:36 PM   
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I guess so.*****

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/29/2008 10:28:59 PM   
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I knew I need help when I became a drug addict and alcholic after the murder of My baby almost 22 years ago. I couldnt take care of the one I had left. Went to AA and counceling and within 6 months I was good as new.

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/29/2008 10:30:35 PM   
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Well, good on you.

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/29/2008 10:37:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalista07

My question is, basically, how do You know when You can no longer handle things on Your own, in regard to Your emotional or mental well being?

Thanks,
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NOTE{PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS IN THE WORLD DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A PRE OR ANTI MEDICATION DEBATE}.



Umm, like when you're having nervous breakdowns, doing things that are destructive to others or yourself, acting out in ways to cope that are not good, and when you hold the imaginary mirror up to your life and take a hard look and see gee that isn't very good acting/behavior.  When you've tried to handle it yourself and still do things that are negative or destructive, that's when you need to ask for help from others. 


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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/29/2008 10:44:19 PM   
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In this lifestyle W/we are A/all a family no matter what. W/we need to rely and lean on O/one A/another. Help O/one A/another when W/we can.

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 2:00:21 AM   
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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 5:40:03 AM   
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When you start thinking that you need help... you probably do.
For me, it was when i was driving home from work and crying, and realized that i didn't even know why...

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 7:28:24 AM   
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When you can see a major problem, but you can't see a solution, and you haven't got the time or energy to sit it out, that's when you turn to someone.

It's not necessarily when you close yourself off from others.. I do this. I need my space and isolation periods to be able to function. Unless you are doing so and you don't want to see that point at which you emerge again.

Cjan is right, exercise is the best.. it doesn't need to be a run or working out, it can be a long walk, a major spring clean, some sort of activity.. or even a swim. The good thing about swimming is that it puts you into contact with water, the water holds you up, you start feeling connected with the world again.

It's good to have a support network, even if it's just online. Numerous people here on CM have been there for me and a few were very instrumental in getting me through much of 2007 and away from a very dark and difficult place. This is why I don't see pixels on a screen but people in faraway places. Humans.

There's nothing better than the support of fellow humans when it all gets too much. Not everyone can be strong all the time. We all need somebody.

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 9:03:50 AM   
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Kali, sweetie, if you are thinking you might need some help, it certainly won't hurt to at least get an evaluation.

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 9:10:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalista07

Again, thanks all for Your responses....i have a question.  Has anyone ever suddenly stopped working out, and if so how did You respond emotionally/ mentally?
Thanks,
Kali



Regular exercise definitely helps me keep my cope better with whatever life is throwing my way.  If I absolutely do not want to go to they gym or for a walk I make a bargain with myself, eg I will go for a 5 minute walk up my street and if I want to turn back after 2 and a half minutes of walking I give myself permission to do so.  Once I have got my butt out of the house and walking I start to feel a little better.

Other signs for me that I need help are when I am wondering if I have taken on too much or if I am coping etc.  spending way too much time in my head eg. thinking about problems and things, rather than living my life, isolating myself from friends and family, avoiding doing things and dreaming about problems.  Often simply talking about my concerns with someone will be helpful for me and I will sometimes ask them simply to listen as a sounding board without passing judgement or comment.

If this post is about yourself or someone you know Kali I hope you and/or they have someone they feel they can talk with. :)

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 10:02:08 AM   
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Kali, what's the worst thing that can happen if you go talk to someone? They might say you're perfectly fine and don't need to come back. But if you're struggling in any way, it's always a good idea to go and get checked out. The same way getting prescription cough medicine might prevent it worsening into pneumonia, discussing your struggles now could prevent it deepening into depression.

And yes, exercise is known to help in cases of mild to moderate depression.

Beyond that, panic attacks, thoughts or plans or hurting oneself or another, all signs that you need immediate attention.

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 10:29:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalista07

Again, thanks all for Your responses....i have a question.  Has anyone ever suddenly stopped working out, and if so how did You respond emotionally/ mentally?
Thanks,
Kali




You read my mind! I was reading through the posts and thinking, I should have told her that exercise is almost always a mood manager; and lack thereof can be a mood killer.

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 10:31:53 AM   
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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 5/30/2008 3:18:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

You read my mind! I was reading through the posts and thinking, I should have told her that exercise is almost always a mood manager; and lack thereof can be a mood killer.


i think it varies wildly from person to person... Personally, the only good feeling i ever get out of exercise comes from stopping.  Now, a lack of SM play... that's a mood killer

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 6/1/2008 7:51:35 AM   
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i apologize for not responding sooner.  i think i may be able to explain what was going on now. {Isn't hindsight a bitch?}  A few weeks ago i had begun working out every morning, then they closed because of the holiday... So that was three days in a row that i was not permitted to go there. Tuesday i was sick and slept all day..Wednesday i was too freaking exhausted to be able to get up in the morning and go...i had Him drop my clothes off to me at work so i could go after work. i had every intention of going....i left work and began driving to the gym..... And then some stupid JAMF decided to scream at me because he thought i was going too fast... {Again, in hindsight i believe the real issue was he had to stop because i was driving through the alley, and he wasn't paying attention}.. He began screaming and yelling at me, and at first i was amused.... For some sick reason i generally find it humerous when people are ranting and raving and acting like a complete fool. And then he began insulting me personally...He began saying how fat i was...then i was a fat ass bitch...then i was a fat ass bitch and a hippoponamous, and blah blah blah.... And then this guy was walking by both of us (as the original guy, was still screaming this shit at me) and when the guy said how fat and ugly i am the walking man said, "hmm..yeah she is isn't she".  i had ever inappropriate thought that i've experienced at that time. i came  home and told Him about it and thought i let it go.....  Combine that with all the other stress and bullshit i've been experiencing and i think it was just too much. Consequently, i did not go back to the gym that night or the next night.   The thing about all of this is, it obviously triggered some stupid ass bullshit that i apparently thought i had dealt with and have not.....and that sucks.
i went back to the gym Friday morning and it seems like i'm back on track.... i have an appointment with a therapist on Wednesday, although i was truly hoping some people on here would agree with me that i am perfectly mentally stable and don't need any help... :P
Anyway, i just wanted to explain where i was coming from and not worry  you all. Thank you all for the support, kindness, and friendship.  It means the world to me.
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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 6/1/2008 8:03:24 AM   
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Kali my love, if the question is in your mind, the time is now. No one gives a medal to those who try to struggle through alone. If you even have an inkling that you need help, then you need it.

I know lots of people say that one should suck it up, sort out their lives and get control of themselves. If we could do that, we'd do it. Counselling, doctors, whatever you need aren't going to do it for you, but they can give you the tools and confidence to get yourself back on track.

Don't delay, if things aren't getting better, if you feel you've lost control of your life/emotions, seek out someone who can give you some help.


Kali.....please read the above post again. MM stated it perfectly.


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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 6/1/2008 8:04:14 AM   
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What an awful experience with two neanderthal's Kali.  I am thankful that you are feeling back on track, going to the gym and have an appointment with your therapist.  I am especially thankful that you posted this thread and got some ideas and support....and if it helps any I would say you are as mentally stable as the rest of us!!!!

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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 6/1/2008 8:38:13 AM   
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Holly and wandersalone,
thanks for your support. And of course MM is right (when has she been wrong??!) and i will follow her directions.
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RE: How do You know when You need help? - 6/1/2008 3:51:44 PM   
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I think help is necessarily sought when you begin to hurt or your actions threaten to hurt the wel-being of either yourself or anyone else.

I personally had some serious self-esteem issues, but I was partially able to overcome it by myself. I'm still young, but as I was growing up, this was a serious issue for me, especially because many people called me "ugly" and such (especially my own mother, out of spite because I wasn't the perfect son she had wanted).

I came to believe it I heard it more and more often, when in fact it was quite rare that my physical stature was brought up, ever. But every time I heard it, the days I would think about it would feel like it was being said over and over again, as long as the words would stay seared in my head.

As I'm a bit older now, I'd like to think I've grown a tad bit mature, and with the help of some people who have complimented me on my looks (whether it be out of politeness or they were actually telling the truth and think I am quite alright), I came to accept myself more and more because I've been convincing myself that I can't change myself more than I already have, though I can make improvements, somehow.

Those days where I was called "ugly," affected me in a way that both my image AND personality were ugly. I attempted to change the way I acted dramatically as well, so that I might be able to impress others around me in hopes that I'd have evolved into a person that they would accept me for. It didn't quite work that way.

But anyway, I try not to dwell on the past...Though I still acknowledge the current flaws I maintain, I try not to mind it, or I just think about the positive remarks those nice people have said to me so I can try and outweight the negatives.

And though I may have plenty of other issues to work out, I'm pretty confident I will be able to solve them myself. But if worst came to worst, I would not hesitate to receive the help I need.

On another note, I'd like to add that I still do believe that I am, or anyone else for that matter, is defined by the people around them, regardless of what they hold themselves to, because if you're the only person who knows yourself, what good is that when no one else is around to observe your "true self?" It makes no difference.

I'm not saying that change is in order, but being who you are and how you are perceived must complement each other in order for survival.

This may not necessarily be true, or I might have worded it the wrong way, but basically I this is what I think.

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