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sslaveO -> RE: pro/sub (5/20/2008 11:57:26 AM)
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ORIGINAL: FilmMePlease
Hi
submissive male here with very few limits........has training. I have been wondering what it would take to become a Pro sub? How do i go about it?
I hate to burst your bubble, but male subs can hardly, barely find a female Domme at all, never mind charge one for his services. There is not a single male pro sub (I am pretty sure, I could be wrong but in this case do not believe I am). There are hundreds of male subs for every female Domme, the numbers are purely in the Domme's favor. Why would she pay when all she has to do is put an ad on Collarme and sit back and wait for dozens of replies per minute practically. There is no such thing as a male pro sub for female Dommes. Sorry, you will have to find an alternative career.
Long ago, on collarme, I remember that it took a while for a person's profile to be approved, but you were listed right away as "submissive female" in whatever state. Literally, as soon as my name and submissive female and NJ came up (where I was then), the replies came in so fast, it was literally about five to ten per minute, from male Doms. I could not nearly keep up answering them with a short "sorry but only seeking a female" as fast as they were coming in. My profile, which stated that I am seeking a Female Domme only, had not been approved yet so all they saw was submissive female..without a picture, but I was swamped by the responses. That is why females can charge for being a professional sub. The male Doms are outnumber by the amount of females.. it's supply and demand.
I have seen one pro-sub's page where she lists what she charges and she does tend to charge more than proDommes, as she should in my opinion. She also charges more as the session activity gets heavier.. ie mild to moderate corporal is one price vs. heavy heavy caning at a higher price. This also makes sense as she is out of commission work wise until her bruises go away..a heavier caning will require more time off.
I once had a Mistress who was a pro, and I sometimes did sessions with her. I decided in my infinite wisdom that I wanted to make more money so I wanted to do sessions as a sub to the client. Until then, I either co-Dommed with her in some roleplay scenario or I subbed to her while the client watched as part of his session.
The two sessions I did were horrible - for me- one guy had seen pro subs before and knew exactly what he was doing... he was extremely degrading to me and made me feel so humliated and not in a good way. He also would have paddled my ass beyond belief with this ridiculously huge paddle my Mistress had barely ever more than hit me lightly with if she had not stopped him and coaxed him into using something else instead. He definitely felt a pro sub is a like a whore without sex but with pain instead. In other words, his money bought him the right to treat me like crap and do whatever he wanted with no regard. There was a certain rage I felt from him .. I don't know at what or if at women or if he just got turned on beating the hell out of someone.. but I felt it. Thankfully, my Mistress was there to assauge him to slow down a drop or to switch implements because otherwise, I would have been mincemeat. I was a pretty heavy pain slut then......... my Mistress and Master had built me up to a pretty high pain tolerance.. but this client was just way out of hand and felt it was his right to just beat me as he wanted as heavy handed as he wanted because he paid me.
The second client had no experience at all Domming.. his fantasy was for him to Dom me than I would switch and "take my revenge". That was good because he was an asshole. It was clearly known and set up that my Mistress would be present and would help teach him. My Mistress left the room for literally one minute to answer a phone and right when she left, I was already chained up, he stuck his hands down my panties and fingered me. I was too inexperienced and naive to know how to handle it.. I didn't want to ruin the mood or upset him or ruin his session so I didn't say anything. Then my Mistress was trying to teach him how to use a flogger... and trying to teach him the art of warmup. Well, he wasn't interested in any warm up. He just wanted to beat away. He hit my face twice with a leather cat o'nine because he didn't know how to control his swing nor care to. He just kept wailing into me without any regard that there was actually a person on the receiving end. Well, when it was my turn, I taught him what it was like on the receiving end and kept going till he safeworded, which believe me challenged his male pride.
That was the last pro sub session ever for me. No amount of money was worth it for me...
Then again, now I am not at all into men whatsoever (nothing to do with those particular sessions) and do not enjoy subbing to any man at all. I believe a woman who enjoys it with men and is not a lesbian probaby could have a much better time at it than I did. I also think it takes someone with a lot of experience to know how to artfully top from the bottom without seeming to, which I think is necessary to be a pro sub.
If you want to see a listing of professional submissives, go to maxfisch.com and that page has a list of professional submissives, as well as professional Dommes and Houses of Domination- some of them, but not all, also offer pro subs or switches as well.
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