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We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:12:15 PM   
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"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:18:02 PM   
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We are the PIGNATION!!!!!!

Hear us SQUEAL!!!!!!!

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:21:41 PM   
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Is that what Obama's saying? He's gonna whip America's big fat ass into shape?

Or is he saying something else, like we need to sacrifice, because we suck.


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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:24:06 PM   
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We are probably the single most wasteful nation in the world.

The need to get as grip on our hedonistic lifestyle is huge.

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:25:46 PM   
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One earth. 20% of the population consume 80% of the resources.

Hardly seems fair.

I think Obama is talking about is a little something known as sharing.


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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:26:08 PM   
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So we need an iron-fisted leader to teach us how to really suffer, like all lazy no-good Americans should. And Obama's just the man to do it?

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:27:46 PM   
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Hell no. We need someone to kick ass on the media and let them show us what dolts we really are. It's the smoke and mirrors that say "Everything is just dandy-now go buy a winnegabo" that needs to be crushed.

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:30:47 PM   
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So we need an iron-fisted leader to teach us how to really suffer, like all lazy no-good Americans should. And Obama's just the man to do it?


Does it take an iron fist to make you act like a responsible human being?


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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:30:53 PM   
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Oh, so he's going to control the media.

I see.

The media will make us suffer. Old people and children can have hot homes in summer, cold homes in winter, and they can by god walk wherever they go. And no more tasty food, gruel for everyone.

Sounds like fun! When do I get to vote for him... I can hardly wait.


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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:32:02 PM   
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Why should you get to choose how everyone else lives.


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So we need an iron-fisted leader to teach us how to really suffer, like all lazy no-good Americans should. And Obama's just the man to do it?


Does it take an iron fist to make you act like a responsible human being?


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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:34:44 PM   
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Did you post this to get people to diss the man?

I think it's about time that the American public was made aware of how the rest of the world sees us-as ruthless, wasteful exploiters. Rather than this bullshit "generous benfactors" crap the media uses.

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:40:06 PM   
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He's telling me I can't eat what I want, then yeah I think everyone should dis the man.  And regardless what everyone else thinks, it isn't anyones job to tell my parents or grandparents that they have to suffer and cook, freeze, starve, and quit going to the places they need to be when they need to go there just because they're Americans.

Americans must suffer, huh... that's his campaign platform? He might have some trouble with that.


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Did you post this to get people to diss the man?

I think it's about time that the American public was made aware of how the rest of the world sees us-as ruthless, wasteful exploiters. Rather than this bullshit "generous benfactors" crap the media uses.


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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:41:26 PM   
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Why should you get to choose how everyone else lives.


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So we need an iron-fisted leader to teach us how to really suffer, like all lazy no-good Americans should. And Obama's just the man to do it?


Does it take an iron fist to make you act like a responsible human being?


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Wow! I never told you anything. I asked a question. But you seem to like sticking unrelated things together and pretending you have made a point.

Listing a bunch of scary things and stickling the name of the candidate you don't like on is so original and utterly convincing, BTW.

Back to my question: does it take an iron fist to make you behave responsibly?

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:43:13 PM   
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"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

"That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-wpxs1Re-8vx2Zk5xnYygW1W67w





Economic equality across the world was a major tenet of the communists.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

There is no way in hell I would ever cast a vote for this man...

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:46:54 PM   
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Ha ha CD. He says face reality and you twist that to be communism. You and Sanity are doing a great job of manufacturing objections. And if you are going to dis communism at least get it right.


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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:47:18 PM   
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It's a given what you mean by "acting like a responsible human being" Z.

Therefore the question in return. It's simple enough, what don't you get. 

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:47:40 PM   
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       More and more, I'm deciding what Barry means by ending partisanship is, "everybody who doesn't agree needs to shut up."

       I can't believe the Dems are going to throw it away with this guy.

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:50:11 PM   
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He's telling me I can't eat what I want, then yeah I think everyone should dis the man.  And regardless what everyone else thinks, it isn't anyones job to tell my parents or grandparents that they have to suffer and cook, freeze, starve, and quit going to the places they need to be when they need to go there just because they're Americans.

Americans must suffer, huh... that's his campaign platform? He might have some trouble with that.


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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Did you post this to get people to diss the man?

I think it's about time that the American public was made aware of how the rest of the world sees us-as ruthless, wasteful exploiters. Rather than this bullshit "generous benfactors" crap the media uses.



This is futile, my vote will cancel yours. And I AM going to vote for him. You just helped me to decide.

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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:53:16 PM   
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It's a given what you mean by "acting like a responsible human being" Z.

Therefore the question in return. It's simple enough, what don't you get. 


Ummm. That's not a question - that's a statement.

Did you mean do I require an iron fist to make me be responsible? No. And by responsible I already said, sharing. Everybody on this planet could have all they want to eat. There's no need to have that privilege at the expense of the lives of others. It doesn't have to be exclusive.


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RE: We can't eat as much as we want? - 5/18/2008 9:55:35 PM   
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      Unless you live in the same state, that's a pretty empty threat, Leath. 

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