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Leatherist -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/18/2008 7:15:52 PM)

Shrugs, I have never had issues finding women to do my strange kinks with. I just have patience and focus on the ones with good potential-and pretty much ignore the ones who hard limit everything I like.




Owner4SexSlave -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/22/2008 5:52:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pissdoll

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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds 

so, go pay someone to fullfill those little fantasies of yours and be done with it



i completely understand what Whiplash/Owner is talking about.  we discussed the issue before once upon a time.

there are fantasies you can pay for and fantasies you simply cant...some things can't be worked out with a stranger.

i empathize with those who say they'd walk away from bdsm for love.  i have done so myself, only to return later when that love "wasn't enough,"  when i found my "dark desires" were totally ignored and/or even greatly disturbed my partner.

Whip/Owner...i don't have any of the answers.  but you aren't the only person on here with desires that eat away at your soul.  if you figure any of it out, let me know.  i'd really appreciate it!


Thank you pissdoll....

At times, it's bad enough coming out of the closet with Vanilla people.   Then there's coming out of closest with other BDSMers when it comes to kinks.

OK, one of my kinks is Watersports.  Yes, that Nasty Nasty Dirty thing that can Squick both Vanilla's and Some Lifestylers out at the mere mention of it.   Eeeewww.. you're one sick twisted puppy dog.

I've only engaged in this activitity to a limited degree!   It's a little hard to find willing volunteers to let you piss inside them, or are willing attempt to mutually take a piss together in the middle of sex.

To give you guys an idea of when this kink became a kink of mine!  It was somewhere around the time I was in 4th grade! That's when I started having really intense fantasies and thoughts about this.

No matter, what relationship I have been in, there's been something holding me back from fully exploring things.  Because let's face it, this is not an activity for everybody.   I myself had issues with just how sane is it to piss inside somebody?  You know health, Sanitity and being safe.   Over the years, not matter what relationship I was in.   The Dark Desires were always there, Nothing changed.

There is no Kink Zapper for me, on this one.   Yes, this kink has deeply disturbed a few of my partners as well.  To the point well, let's just say, they were freaked out about what a True Sicko I was.  They themselves having mental issues over being involved with a Sicko and stuff like that...   It's not pretty trust me. 

My Natural burning desire for this Kink is very real...  it's not something anybody can change either.  I'm sick to death of ignoring it, pretending it's not part of me, and worse yet.. trying to keep it locked away inside a closet.

OK, I have one kick out in the open.   This has been my own struggle and personal frustration.

This is not one of those things that one can go pay for either, as pissdoll pointed out.  Not something that generally can get worked out with a stranger.   Perhaps to a limited degree.   Hell, I've already done this to a limited degree...

I know that perhaps this activitity to my interest level is rather extreme for some folks.  OK, fine...   Yes, I'm sick and twisted! Whatever...  I've never proclaimed to be normal, vanilla or honestly all that right in the head.




DominantJenny -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/22/2008 6:23:10 AM)

Sheesh. Watersports? Not my thing, but goodness there are plenty of people who are very into it that I've come across in my time.
And, no, I don't think it's sick and twisted (any more than any other kink, anyway :P); I've been around long enough and known/talked to enough people that I can completely see the appeal.
I hope you find a compatible partner!




mistoferin -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/22/2008 6:27:54 AM)

I agree with DJ. There doesn't seem to be any shortage of folks into watersports....and I don't see it falling under the "sick and twisted" category. Heck, I even have vanilla friends that are into that.




IrishMist -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/22/2008 7:07:51 AM)

I don't compromise [:)] I know what I want, and I know what I need...there is no middle ground for me.




daddysliloneds -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/22/2008 5:04:10 PM)

that's it?  watersports?  that's your big taboo kink you can't find a partner to share with?  oh, please!  and here i thought it was something like the desire to have her fuck pigs and horses and such, or being allowed to be put into insulin shock so you could act out a nycrophylliac kink or something[:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: pissdoll

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds 

so, go pay someone to fullfill those little fantasies of yours and be done with it



i completely understand what Whiplash/Owner is talking about.  we discussed the issue before once upon a time.

there are fantasies you can pay for and fantasies you simply cant...some things can't be worked out with a stranger.

i empathize with those who say they'd walk away from bdsm for love.  i have done so myself, only to return later when that love "wasn't enough,"  when i found my "dark desires" were totally ignored and/or even greatly disturbed my partner.

Whip/Owner...i don't have any of the answers.  but you aren't the only person on here with desires that eat away at your soul.  if you figure any of it out, let me know.  i'd really appreciate it!


Thank you pissdoll....

At times, it's bad enough coming out of the closet with Vanilla people.   Then there's coming out of closest with other BDSMers when it comes to kinks.

OK, one of my kinks is Watersports.  Yes, that Nasty Nasty Dirty thing that can Squick both Vanilla's and Some Lifestylers out at the mere mention of it.   Eeeewww.. you're one sick twisted puppy dog.

I've only engaged in this activitity to a limited degree!   It's a little hard to find willing volunteers to let you piss inside them, or are willing attempt to mutually take a piss together in the middle of sex.

To give you guys an idea of when this kink became a kink of mine!  It was somewhere around the time I was in 4th grade! That's when I started having really intense fantasies and thoughts about this.

No matter, what relationship I have been in, there's been something holding me back from fully exploring things.  Because let's face it, this is not an activity for everybody.   I myself had issues with just how sane is it to piss inside somebody?  You know health, Sanitity and being safe.   Over the years, not matter what relationship I was in.   The Dark Desires were always there, Nothing changed.

There is no Kink Zapper for me, on this one.   Yes, this kink has deeply disturbed a few of my partners as well.  To the point well, let's just say, they were freaked out about what a True Sicko I was.  They themselves having mental issues over being involved with a Sicko and stuff like that...   It's not pretty trust me. 

My Natural burning desire for this Kink is very real...  it's not something anybody can change either.  I'm sick to death of ignoring it, pretending it's not part of me, and worse yet.. trying to keep it locked away inside a closet.

OK, I have one kick out in the open.   This has been my own struggle and personal frustration.

This is not one of those things that one can go pay for either, as pissdoll pointed out.  Not something that generally can get worked out with a stranger.   Perhaps to a limited degree.   Hell, I've already done this to a limited degree...

I know that perhaps this activitity to my interest level is rather extreme for some folks.  OK, fine...   Yes, I'm sick and twisted! Whatever...  I've never proclaimed to be normal, vanilla or honestly all that right in the head.




SleepyDom -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/22/2008 10:11:35 PM)

Yea I wouldn't consider watersports extreme and it's pretty harmless unless you have disease or drugs you're taking that could be passed on.  And my guess is that people who find it disgusting usually do so because of the idea; once they do it it's not really a big deal and depending on the submissive mindset that it might inspire can really get to enjoy it.

I'll share with you an experience I had with it.  I told her to go clean the bathroom and had exactly one hour to do it.  It hasn't been cleaned in a while and so she really had to hustle to get it done in time.  So while she's all sweaty and busy trying to finish it, I walk in and tell her to kneel.  I take my cock out and she (correctly) guesses that I want her mouth on it.  I tell her to drink everything that comes out of it and she nods her head slightly, her eyes confirming what I said.  Now mind you we had never even discussed watersports, and she probably didn't even understand exactly what was about to happen.  She probably thought I was talking about sperm.  Or actually I don't think she was thinking about anything really, just doing what I told her.  Before she fully realized what was going on, I had peed in her mouth (just a little, my bladder wasn't full) and she swallowed it all.  I then told her to finish up (she had only about 10 minutes to go) and left.  As I went to the living room I noticed her kneeling for a little longer, trying to digest what happened (my guess).

When I later asked about the experience, she said she was "impressed" (her word).  That sort of idea hasn't even occurred to her and she felt very submissive, very used.  And it wasn't unpleasant at all, she said, even the taste wasn't bad, a bit sweet even (I guess because I drink a lot of diet cola).  (My guess--I'm not sure--is that sugar don't pass through urine but fake sugar substances do.)  I think this would've been a lot harder on her if we had talked about it and she fully anticipated exactly what was going to happen.  On the flip side, that might've put her in even more of a submissive mood with all the anticipation, I don't know.

The second time I did that I made a mistake.  My bladder was full this time and I really let go, it came out way too fast and she couldn't handle it and choked.  Something to think about if she's not experienced in this--peeing slowly. [:D]  That's harder than it sounds if you're not used to controlling those muscles.  But if you can stop the peeing in the middle of it, then you should have enough control for that.  One thing I noticed is that once I had this control, I could pee when erect and also orgasm doesn't take away the erection, I can just stay hard as long as there's enough sexual excitement.

So what I'm suggesting is that you find partners and maybe NOT discuss it (make sure they don't have it as 'hard limit' in their profile though) and simply do it one day after a good D/s dynamic has been established.  Might sound a little sneaky, but it's not.  You're both exploring each others' limits and unless she specifically doesn't want it as a limit, it's fair game.  That knee jerk reaction "Yuck!" is a lot easier to overcome once she's tasted it and realizes it's not so bad.  But don't do it first thing in the morning after you wake up as that's when urine's most strong in its taste, and you might want to drink some diet soda or similar so it won't be so bad the first time.  Once she's used to it it doesn't matter.




pettingdragons -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/23/2008 5:22:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave
The kicker, how does an experienced Dom express they are inexperienced in a few activities? 


**hands you a soild rubber demo dollie for your "gaining experience" pleasure, until you find a submissive to play with**
(shrugs) its the best i can do....i have found someone who does not judge me for my secret fantasies, nor i His....We both started out with Hard Limits. As a couple We are now willing to explore some of those limits...its all about the trust level and growth for Us...
pettingdragons
**Master Dragons considered slave**




pettingdragons -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/23/2008 5:45:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds
that's it?  watersports?  that's your big taboo kink you can't find a partner to share with?  oh, please!  and here i thought it was something like the desire to have her fuck pigs and horses and such, or being allowed to be put into insulin shock so you could act out a nycrophylliac kink or something[:D]
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LMAO  [sm=biggrin.gif] watersports are great in the shower too...rubber hoses...lalala
insulin shock....nycrophylliac...**laughing so hard she sputters coffee all over the desk** oh oh....so do girls fantasies about Vampires and Wereanimals make her a nycrophylliac or into beastiality? YUM!!!
pettingdragons
**Master Dragons considered slave**




Owner4SexSlave -> RE: Kinks and Compromises (5/23/2008 5:53:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds
that's it?  watersports?  that's your big taboo kink you can't find a partner to share with?  oh, please!  and here i thought it was something like the desire to have her fuck pigs and horses and such, or being allowed to be put into insulin shock so you could act out a nycrophylliac kink or something[:D]


Nahhh.. I was just warming everybody up before I spilled my guts about CLOWN SEX... Just kidding about that one.
Then there's the MFM or sharing somebody with other men.  Yeah, Yeah, Yeah... you know swinging type of stuff.
Trust me, I've been in very mono/closed relationships over the years.

Bad enough though some activities I already enjoy, some people have limits with.   Think it's one of those things, the more you do, it kinda reduces ones chances some.

There a list of things I enjoy, done and whatnot.  Some of those things I find are other people's limits. 

Two growing areas of interest for me are Electro Play and Needles (limited).   Actually, hell I'm interest in taking a few Zaps myself from a TENS or something.   Sticking Needles through the Labia (not a must to do) has been a growing fascination of mine.   There are a few additional things that are rather optional in by book.  

The whole watersports and sharing/swinging whatever you call it thing, has been burning at me for many many many years now.

Things like blood don't bother me... Used to prick each other with lancets.. kiss and lick the blood from each others fingers and body.   OK, there's a touch of Vampire in me.   It was a very intimate thing that we enjoyed.   Geee.. licking blood..  I myself don't even think twice about the sanity of this.  It's not a big deal inside my mind.   

The whole watersports thing, just how sane it being to piss during sex.. you know that kinda stuff.   Big difference between doing it on somebody compared to inside somebody.   




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