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Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender women... - 5/11/2008 10:11:03 AM   
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Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender women who allege they were abused by New York City Police Department (NYPD) officers because of their gender. They have alleged serious human rights violations, which would be in breach of international human rights standards, including the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman and Degrading Treatment or Punishment and the United Nations Code of Conduct for Law Enforcement Officials.
 
Amnesty International has called on the NYPD to conduct immediate and impartial investigations into the allegations, and to hold accountable any officers found responsible for abuses. The NYPD have replied, but have so far given only general information about how the NYPD deals with complaints, rather than responding to the specific concerns raised about the cases of Mariah Lopez and Christina Sforza.
 
Christina Sforza, a transgender woman, alleges she was attacked in a New York restaurant on 10 July 2006 by a man wielding a lead pipe, for spending too long in the women:"rquotes rest room which a restaurant employee had given her permission to use. The man reportedly shouted abuse that was heard by other staff and customers, who allegedly egged him on, shouting "kill the fag"
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Christina Sforza says that when New York City Police Department (NYPD) officers arrived they refused to allow the emergency medical services to examine her injuries, and arrested her, not her attacker. The police reportedly handcuffed her behind her back, kicked her and pushed her into their car. She says that after pleading for treatment for her injuries, she was taken to hospital, where she had
x-rays before being taken to the police station, where she was charged with assault and harassment, and where she alleges police officers verbally abused her and mocked her injuries.
 Christina Sforza is a diabetic on insulin, and says that she asked the
police repeatedly for her medication while she was in custody, but never received it. She has alleged that she tried six times to file a criminal complaint with the police against the man who beat her in the restaurant, but police officers prevented from
doing so. On one occasion she said she waited six hours at the police station before being told to come back the following day; on another occasion, she said she left the police station after being threatened with arrest by a police officer for '93
attempting to make a false report'94.

 Christina Sforza was only eventually able to file a criminal complaint after Christine Quinn, the New York City Council Speaker, intervened after hearing about her difficulties from Amnesty International and other concerned organisations. All charges against Christina Sforza were eventually dropped.
 
The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Advisor at the New York City District Attorney :rquote s Office (the local prosecutor) has said she may open an investigation into the case, but no progress on this investigation has been reported.
 
Mariah Lopez, a transgender Latina woman, was arrested by NYPD officers on 17 June 2006. She alleges that while she was in police custody male officers carried out repeated humiliating and unnecessary strip searches, forced her into detention cells with male inmates and subjected her to verbal and physical abuse. She says that when she refused to go into the men:rquote s cell because she thought it would be dangerous, police officers handcuffed her, tied her legs together and dragged her into the cell. Once she was in the cell the officers allegedly beat her, hit her in the back of the head, pushed her face against the floor and kicked her in the groin.On 18 June Ms Lopez was taken to hospital for treatment for her injuries. She alleges that the officer who came to escort her verbally abused her, mocked her injuries and hit her in the head, causing her to fall on her face. While she was on the floor, the officer allegedly kicked her all over
and hit her in the head with a metal rubbish bin.
 
Mariah Lopez was charged with "loitering with intent to solicit" and '93assaulting police officers", to which she pled guilty, she says, in order to get out of jail, where she felt she was at serious risk of attack. She was released on 1 August 2006.
Amnesty International has called repeatedly for the allegations of police abuses to be investigated, but no investigation is known to have begun.
 
These abuses include the use by police officers of sexually explicit and abusive language and threats as well as physical violence. The report documented a pattern of repeated and unnecessary searches of transgender individuals in police custody. Amnesty International:"rquotes research also revealed that transgender women were often placed in cells with male inmates, exposing them to heightened risk of sexual violence. A key finding was that police officers often fail to investigate crimes against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people adequately"

©Amnesty International

My question is...
Is this the world We want to live in???

I'll write a letter to the NY police, and
the American Embassy to complain,
what are you going to do?

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 10:24:05 AM   
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this kind of stuff used to happen all the time back in the day to my foster sister Shaun
(tg, m2f), until she finally killed herself

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 10:25:49 AM   
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common stuff in a big city with high trans population.



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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 10:29:11 AM   
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quote:

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this kind of stuff used to happen all the time back in the day to my foster sister Shaun
(tg, m2f), until she finally killed herself

Im very sorry to hear this domahpet,
a warm huggle for you.

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 11:28:54 AM   
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I'm still fighting with the authorities over Atlanta.. The US Consulate sided with the US Department of Homeland Security and removed me permanently from the Visa Waiver program.. Amnesty International didn't want to know..support is coming from Stonewall and The Spanner Trust have recently shown interest..I still intend to be a thorn in Washington's side for some time to come.

I'd like both the US and Canadian authorities to adopt the UK official stance on gender recognition where gender is recognized for who you are inside and not what is in your underwear. Surgery doesn't make you any more female than you already are, and I feel that anyone who has sought treatment and intends to live permanently in their actual gender should be recognized legally too.

Society needs to understand that gender dysphoria isn't a choice or a preference, but a serious medical condition and that the person is actually who they say the are.

Is there any greater birth defect a woman can suffer than to be born with a dick?

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 11:32:15 AM   
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Is there any greater birth defect a woman can suffer than to be born with a dick?


most definately...i am one of those that suffer worse..being born an actual female with both genitalia and having to be forced to be male..with the female parts sewn up at birth without consent/knowledge.  its called intersexed.

so yes much greater suffering.


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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 11:37:55 AM   
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I'm still fighting with the authorities over Atlanta.. The US Consulate sided with the US Department of Homeland Security and removed me permanently from the Visa Waiver program.. Amnesty International didn't want to know..support is coming from Stonewall and The Spanner Trust have recently shown interest..I still intend to be a thorn in Washington's side for some time to come.


Is there any greater birth defect a woman can suffer than to be born with a dick?

I'm sorry to hear that you're struggling with  your right to be a woman.
I hope that you'll get your rights!

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 11:50:44 AM   
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Every human should be treated the same..no matter what sexuality.
Sadly that is the only thing I can say about it. I have no experience with the subject.

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 11:55:21 AM   
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quote:

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Is there any greater birth defect a woman can suffer than to be born with a dick?


most definately...i am one of those that suffer worse..being born an actual female with both genitalia and having to be forced to be male..with the female parts sewn up at birth without consent/knowledge. its called intersexed.

so yes much greater suffering.



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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 12:02:56 PM   
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I am going to guess right now, that the NYC police and every other police force in the US, has nothing like we have here in relation to advisory groups? I take part in the West Mercia LGBT advisory group, and our task is to advise the police here on appropriate treatment of LGBT people taken into custody. Also, we take part in police training courses.

The overall aim, is to educate officers from front line types up to senior command, so that its realised we are nothing more or less than citizens, entitled to the same respect and rights as anyone else who is suspected of breaking the law.

Its a sizeable task. Our police force, until the Stephen Lawrence case which produced the momentum for change, was stuck in about 1955 as regards social attitudes. But things have changed thanks to our efforts and are continuing to change.

I wont pretend that cases such as those referred to in the OP could not happen here nowadays - indeed they could, because even with a fairly small force of 4000 officers, it takes time for the change to occur. But, with the structures we have in place, it would be impossible for such cases here, not to receive full scrutiny and for a full and frank exchange of views to take place on preventing any recurrence. Note however, we do not do witch hunts - nine times out of ten, officers who fall short are doing so out of the ignorance of received attitudes rather than malice - and it is for the professional standards department to sort out such matters, alongside us and the diversity department.

If anyone would like any further information about the sort of structures we have in place here, for recommendation to forces in the US, please let me know.

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 12:12:46 PM   
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Is there any greater birth defect a woman can suffer than to be born with a dick?


Yes, someone born with the inability to let others simply--be.

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 12:25:58 PM   
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I am going to guess right now, that the NYC police and every other police force in the US, has nothing like we have here in relation to advisory groups



Some US police departments, particularly NYPD have been allowing members to serve openly regardless of sexual orientation for quite some time, and supporting groups such as the NYPD LGBT Liason and GOAL.

None of which has stopped such things from happening, here or where you are. Bullies, hatemongers, and bigots look for power to abuse, be it the power of a badge, a pulpit, or a prestigious title

http://www.goalny.org/

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 12:30:10 PM   
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Hello Teaze  :)

how are TS/TG treated overhere in our country actually? I hardly hear anything about it, which doesn't mean nothing happens.

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 12:32:03 PM   
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Is there any greater birth defect a woman can suffer than to be born with a dick?


Yes, someone born with the inability to let others simply--be.


actually, I think people aren't BORN that way, they are MADE that way.  I've never seen an infant get all pissed off because of the gender/sexuality of the person holding or caring for them :)


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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 12:59:38 PM   
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excellent point GT

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 1:21:40 PM   
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NYC has a huge GLBTA community and it is ORAGNIZED to the max. The GLBTA Center on 13th St has organs to defend ANY clent and does so if they deem the case worthy of defending.

The Center has volunteer attys available for any need 24/7 if a case is urgent and if one knows anything of the Center and I cannot imagine any
TG or other alt life person in NYC NOT knowing
of the Center.

Christine Quinn is Lesbian and well acquainted with' the Center as are ALL pols in NYC even the homophobes and orthodox.  If these women have each one a good  case I am sure people have long since contacted the Center on their behalf and many NYC pols who ARE Gay or Lesbian,
so all possible defense and assistance is and will
continue to be made available to these women.

If Amnesty got it all NYC pols got it.!

Pols in NYC are sensitive to any issue Amnesty
gets an interest in and any issue the GLBTA
community takes an interest in. Millions of votes
doncha  kno.  And many MORE millions in DONATIONS.

Pols are whores and for votes and donations will
see into these travesties and I smell a load of lawsuits, books and appearances on Ophra.

Cynical?  no, just lived there a looong time and organized for the Center in its early days so know first hand the resources avail.

and I know the bully persona of NYCPD peeps
on all levels very well indeed.

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 1:28:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Justme696

Every human should be treated the same..no matter what sexuality.
Sadly that is the only thing I can say about it. I have no experience with the subject.

Thank you kindly Justme,
I can only agree with you, and wish
that for each & everyone!

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 1:33:43 PM   
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dank je Teaze ;)

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 1:35:46 PM   
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Hello Teaze  :)

how are TS/TG treated overhere in our country actually? I hardly hear anything about it, which doesn't mean nothing happens.

Hey Just,
I read todays thread of the feary one,
she asked something to nag about...
then I read My email, and found this
email from Amnesty.

I don't say The Netherlands, is heaven for bi/les/gay/ts,
because I know that gay people get beaten up even in Amsterdam, so I don't want to make it sound that NY is the only place where shit happends.

I believe Wwe all have the right to be ,
who Wwe are, and live Oour lifes peacefully.

This article shocked Me,
and thought Wwe could talk about it Just!

I hope You're fine,
I won't b here this week, I'm gonna mollest My ho in Italy, but I'll b reading it when I get home.

B safe Yyou Aall!

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RE: Christina Sforza and Mariah Lopez are transgender w... - 5/11/2008 1:52:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domahpet

this kind of stuff used to happen all the time back in the day to my foster sister Shaun
(tg, m2f), until she finally killed herself

I am shocked to hear this and sad for you. Hugs across the miles.
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