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MmeGigs -> RE: The Democrat Nominee, who's more important for the future... (4/23/2008 8:49:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

The Dems will not win back the White House until they nominate someone who is in the mainstream. The majority of the country does not want a left-wing socialist radical that has these strange relationships with racists and terrorists that he refuses to denounce and distance himself from.


Where is the "mainstream" and who is the left-wing socialist radical?  Obama and Clinton and most of the Democratic party are both further right than the Republicans of 20 or 30 years ago.  Left-wing socialist radical policies aren't anywhere on the political radar these days.  If they were, there might be a candidate out there that I could get excited about.  As things are, I'm once again put in a position of voting for the person I dislike least.




MmeGigs -> RE: The Democrat Nominee, who's more important for the future... (4/23/2008 8:51:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Either democrat nominee will be historic but one will be better for the future of American society than the other and significantly so and I think that man is Obama.


Why do you think that?




popeye1250 -> RE: The Democrat Nominee, who's more important for the future... (4/23/2008 9:09:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

The way Obama supporters talk is as if he's the 2nd coming of Christ.

I was reading a blog of an Obama supporter the other day and they were totally delusional. They were talking about how when he's elected there will "finally be peace in the world." And that he will solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and save the poor and hungry and the planet will be saved from global warming.

I mean it would funny if the author who wrote it wasnt so serious....they were!


Wow, they're stupid too.
None of those things is the job of the President of the U.S.




Aquilifer -> RE: The Democrat Nominee, who's more important for the future... (4/23/2008 11:01:34 PM)

I won't touch McCain with a 20 foot pole. 
  • He either cannot or will not hold his temper.  This is ALWAYS a bad thing in a civilian supreme commander.  If you doubt this, do a Google search on "ems spa telegram" for a first-rate example of why an ungovernable temper is NOT a forgivable flaw.
  • He is in his early 70s and he's a lot more tired and hurt than a lot of poeple are when they reach that point.  I doubt he will live through his first term and he'll never outlive his second.
  • He hasn't Clue 1 when it comes to militray affairs.  Nobody in the neocon wing of the Republican Party does.  Real conservatives, like Pat Lang and Bill Lind, have nothing but comtempt for them.
Hillary Clinton has been devoured by her own obsession.
  • I pretty much expect that everybody who gets to the point where they are trying for the Presidency is going to be obsessed by power on some level.  But obsessions must be controlled, lest they control those who have them.  Hillary does not even try to control hers.
I have distinct reservations about Barack Obama.  However, the campaign now underway has made three things about him very, very clear.
  • He holds his temper, and he does so consistently.
  • He disengages from a problem once he sees it, and thinks it over.
  • When he re-engages, he usually does so in a wider frame than the problem was originally posed in.
These are three indicia of a first-rate strategic mind at work.




patheticwhiteboy -> RE: The Democrat Nominee, who's more important for the future... (4/24/2008 6:47:43 AM)

ron paul in 2008!
hope for America!




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