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hermione83 -> con people in D/s (4/20/2008 10:54:30 PM)

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RumpusParable -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 10:56:30 PM)

What does it matter what other name he's gone by if you can tell he's not someone to be trusted or to continue dealing with?  You just... stop.  Problem solved.



Leatherist -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 10:57:57 PM)

Pretty much anyone who posts a yahoo id in a profile is someone to be suspicious of. Especially if the pic looks too good to be true. Usually some spammer trying to collect emails to:

A. Hack you for bank or other password info.

B. put you on a porn site spam list.

C. Is yet another nigerian scammer.

D. All of the above.



hermione83 -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:00:16 PM)

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RumpusParable -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:05:01 PM)

Er,  how do you "steal everything from them with a command"?  Could you clarify?



TethersEnd -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:05:07 PM)

There isnt a thing you can do here. 
Ask yourself if YOU have been harmed and take approiate action to suit. 
I hate to say it, but live and learn is the best teacher. 
AND trying to spread the word often comes back to bite the one who meant well. 

It's best to just move on and be wiser next time. 



hermione83 -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:07:04 PM)

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CalifChick -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:14:01 PM)

Con men exist everywhere.  Stealing hearts and stealing savings accounts is not limited to BDSM.

Cali



TethersEnd -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:15:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hermione83

I'm afraid of giving too much away, but it is extremely effective. I have been. But I am more worried for the next girl. And I imagine that collarme is about the only site he can initiate the contact with because of the types of details given. It's complicated. But anyway, if you get into a M/s relationship and you're supposed to trust him w/ everything, and he can tell you to give him access to bank info etc, he can steal it all and disappear.


Yes it can and I'm sorry if you have experianced this.  It does rip the bottom out of your world. 
BUT.... trust me .. you will recover from the shock. 
Most likely you will not recover what was tangible and taken. 
Trust is fragile once you experiance something like this, I know... I've been there. 
The lesson I learned was not to trust so easily, actually it's baggage now that I struggle with yet years later. 
My best advice is to secure you and yours and move on. 
Trying to be `nice` and forewarn others is a futile and dangerous undertaking. 






RumpusParable -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:16:48 PM)

A person in your life has done that and your looking to find him on collarme?  For what purpose? -because I'm not buying the "to warn the next girl"... among many other variables, for the "next girl" knows you're a loony (not saying you are, saying that she has no more reason to trust you than to trust him).

I assume you're pursuing him legally in real life, yes?  Because there would be a pile of evidence... POA and/or bank records, rental agreements, unusual credit card records, the fact they've met and been seen by friends and family on multiple occasions over the months or years it took you to hand over control of your assets, not to mention finger prints and DNA to help track them down all over your house if necessary, his family and friends that you know who the police would question, etc.



hermione83 -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:17:00 PM)

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Leatherist -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:18:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hermione83

But do you all realize how vulnerable subs/slaves can truly be? You are being good if you trust them and allow yourself to be theirs. And they can destroy your life. I think most vanilla women would say hell no if asked for some things slaves are and easily give in to... 


Subs pull the same kind of shit. Being a criminal is not role exclusive.



RumpusParable -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:21:26 PM)

Again, I'm assuming you're pursuing them legally with the mounds of evidence that would be all over, yes?

Again, why should any person who doesn't know you trust you over anyone else they don't know.  As it's repeatedly pointed out here, more than once a week, often, to these same sorts of blacklist/warnothers posts, for all anyone knows the one warning is the deceiver.

If you're sole reply/answer is that subs/slave are dumber/sadder/more pathetic by nature than vanilla-inclined people, I'm not buying it.



CalifChick -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:24:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hermione83
But do you all realize how vulnerable subs/slaves can truly be? You are being good if you trust them and allow yourself to be theirs. And they can destroy your life. I think most vanilla women would say hell no if asked for some things slaves are and easily give in to... 


I'm going to call bullshit on this one.  If you decide/choose/identify-as a slave/sub/whatever, and you jump into a relationship with someone and give them your bank info, you are no less liable for your actions than anyone else.  Being a slave/sub does not preclude you from common sense.

I'm not comfortable with someone having my bank info that is not living with me.  Does that make me a bad sub?  I'll have to turn in my membership card.

Cali



TethersEnd -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:24:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hermione83

But do you all realize how vulnerable subs/slaves can truly be? You are being good if you trust them and allow yourself to be theirs. And they can destroy your life. I think most vanilla women would say hell no if asked for some things slaves are and easily give in to... 


Sweetheart you ask ME if I know how vulnerable a sub can be! 
Just because I have children your age doesnt disclude Me from vulnerability. 
Yes My Dear ... My life was turned upside down financially and emotionally. 
It's taken years to find My feet again. 
Devotion is easy to give and some know that and take advantage of it. 
It's OUR duty to protect ourselves and that means placing trust wisely. 
As I said  ... it's a tough life lesson.




hermione83 -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:26:24 PM)

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Leatherist -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:29:31 PM)

Identifying with a role does not releive you of the responsibility of looking out for your own interests. If you are that naive, pretty much anyone is going to be able to take advantage of you.



hermione83 -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:30:34 PM)

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Leatherist -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:31:54 PM)

If you see it going down that road, you can always walk.



CalifChick -> RE: con people in D/s (4/20/2008 11:32:27 PM)

Okay, OP, I just read your profile.  Well, I skimmed it, as it is a tad bit verbose.  You're a 25 yr old female virgin seeking a male virgin aged 22 to 39, who is a Christian with a high IQ.  How can you enter a slave relationship under those circumstances, since you would (as you described it) do whatever you were ordered to do... what if he ordered you to have sex with him?

Perhaps you need a personal rule that there is no M/s relationship until the minister has signed the marriage paperwork after the ceremony.

Cali



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