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RE: Foot arch? - 4/19/2008 8:33:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I have very high arches which I never really thought about until I had a severe bout of plantars fasciitis. I also had not known that those with really high arches are much more prone to getting this extremely painful condition.

Just a note to those that do have high arches, wear good shoes that support your arches well. Plantars fasciitis hurts like a mofo and take forfreakinever to get better.



agreed.  and there is NOTHING worse than to have the bottom of your foot get a charleyhorse in the middle of the night...the ONLY thing i have found to work is to walk around on tiptoes for a while.  arghhhhh.!!!

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RE: Foot arch? - 4/21/2008 7:29:45 AM   
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Mary Bond's book New Rules of Posture speaks about how to rework your arch. I teach this work and would recommend this book for those who want healthier feet, posture, etc.

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RE: Foot arch? - 4/21/2008 7:58:54 AM   
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Depending on your age, the bones in your foot have not fused, they have merely gotten habituated.

I had extremely high arches (along with bunyons and claw toes) that I misunderstood an orthopedist who told my mother (when I was 14) that it would take much more than standard bunyon surgery to fix my bunyons because (as I understood it) the bones in my instep were malformed. When I was 37, I went to a podiatrist for x-rays and eval, and learned that I'd understood incorrectly, they were only malpositioned. (Twenty-twenty hindsight...my "high arches" were about 1/3 of the way to being Chinese bound feet.)

So I took the question to my chiropractor, is there anything I can do about it? (Because I already knew that soft tissue—ligaments and such—can be changed, if only with some pain.) And the upshot was that, over the course of four years of regular chiropractic care (1-2 appts/mo), chiro suggestions as to ways to change my walk to support kinesological changes, annually updated custom orthotics (shoe insert/support for main and metatarsal arch), along with me doing exercises to learn to control my toes individually...my shoe size went from 9 1/2 to 11+ in women's US sizes (was 39, now 42-43 in Birkenstocks), my arches "fell" about half their distance, and I learned how to do serious foot massage, most of which I can do to myself.

In the course of that chiro work, I must say, I learned a whole lot about bottom space (not sub space, bottom space...dealing with necessary pain); the most excruciating session of which was the day that the chiro broke up all the accumulated and crystallized lactic acid (the fatigue poison that causes muscle cramps) that was built up in the muscles of my arches.

Anyway, I've no idea of your age (the younger the easier), but I know that you can make body changes with determination, education (I studied a book on the anatomy of the extremities), and skilled assistance. I still have bunyons, and milder claw toes, and if I want to lose them I'll prolly still need surgery. But a much less invasive overhaul, with surgical techniques 20 years advanced. And, you know, the podiatrist predicted major arthritic pain in 10 years post change (though he was impressed by the change, and puzzled)...and I'm making a liar of him 15 years later.

Best of luck, and learn stretches of all sorts.

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RE: Foot arch? - 4/21/2008 2:32:59 PM   
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RE: Foot arch? - 4/21/2008 4:13:32 PM   
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hi,

a high arched foot is a completely different animal to a flat foot.  but both are almost always familial, youll find one or more of youre relatives have similar feet.

a flat foot is not isolated on its own, there is a connection from the hip to knee to ankle joint (kinetic chain) and then all of the many joints within the foot itself and their association with each other.  pronation can be alleviated with arch supports, posting (that is wedges put onto orthotics) to bring the foot to the floor faster, if you like, to 'correct' the pronation and pressure that will eventually create a bunion and associated fusion of the big toe joint.  an orthotic is a very good idea, it helps to reduce the impact problems that arise from pronation, but it will not cure the underlying problem.  i have treated an ex ballerina who presented with bunions and clawed toes, her feet were not flat as such, simply badly hammered by wearing points for years.  short of surgery there was little i could do for her except provide palliative care.

ive been a podiatrist for 15 years and though i dole out orthotics for pronating feet on a regular basis i do so only in the knowledge that they will alleviate discomfort and possibly slow down the developing displacement of the big toe and associated second.

im not sure if i know what these slippers are, there are a number of 'cures' out there, that suggest wonderful results but rarely provide any..  personally i would be careful with anything that holds youre feet in a way that is unnatural to them, the effect on your joints in the long term might well cause different problems later on.  there is so much going on in the foot, its a tightly organised, complex structure with nerves, blood vessels and ligaments all threading their way through little holes and narrow spaces, pinching any of those is not a good idea.

surgery on a pronating foot is pretty much unheard of over here, there are so many joints involved in the mobility of the foot. and as ive already said, pronation is not isolated to the way of the foot alone, the kinetic chain has a strong bearing. correction of bunions is really nothing more than aesthetic although it does also provide relief from bunions and resultant factors like bursitis, corns and a displaced second toe and all that that implies.

youre best course of action is to find a good podiatrist who will do a thorough biomechanical exam.

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RE: Foot arch? - 4/21/2008 5:19:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Odd I have flat feet too. Have since I was a Kid. I had to wear Inserts.

I was told there was no way to correct it permanently. That the fallen arch is simply a bone structure issue. That the Arch can only be supported not recreated.

If you have info on this I would be glad to read it.

Steel


Actually, my youngest son had this problem and had it surgically improved. He inherited loose joints/ligaments from me and flat feet from his dad. His feet started rolling in and would have affected his knees and hips if not corrected. Podiatrist operated on both feet and inserted a bone wedge ("creating" an arch) and stapled some of his ligaments or tendons or something to his bones. Sorry if that's TMI. He was also supposed to wear orthotics, but of course, he rarely did. This was all when he was in middle school. He's 21 now and doesn't seem to have problems anymore.

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RE: Foot arch? - 4/26/2008 1:16:46 AM   
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I used to curse having flat feet, but reading this post made me realize that high arches do seem to cause a lot of pain. Sorry, my high-arched friends!

Speaking of the arches of feet, though, does anyone find this area to be an erogenous zone? (This is why I first came to the post - not trying to derail.


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