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Lycoth -> Looking for some help and/or advice (4/16/2008 11:53:25 PM)

Hello, I'm looking for some help or advice.  I'm finally accepting who I am as a female and  not a male now and that has been difficult.  I've always also been submissive in nature, however even though I have accepted myself I really am not sure how to get the ball rolling at all.  I need some help and was wondering if any mistresses can help me or anyone who has been in my shoes please.  Thanks so much in advanced. =)




MistressFrypan -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 2:21:29 AM)

Unfortunately, your profile doesn't reveal much--although you say you're a woman trapped in a man's body, that really isn't much information to go by.

Do you want to remain a man, but act/dress female part of the time?  When?
Do you want to remain a man physically, but despise the company of men so much that you want to avoid them altogether?
Do you want to live as a woman full-time, but always remain male physically?
Do you want to live as a woman full-time and have surgery to change your body to reflect that?

If you picked either of the last two, get off the Internet and go see a psychologist--they'll be much better help in moving you forward with your life than anyone on this message board.  Don't waste your time hunting for a mistress, do it now.  Every month counts at your age; you may not be fully grown yet, which is a very good thing.

If you picked either of the first two, take a number and get in line.  You may want to work on your profile while you wait.




Lycoth -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 11:17:44 AM)

Thank you MistressFrypan I would be picking the later two and getting therapy right now is going to be hard, I need to take smaller steps.  I can't even tell my parents yet, I'm not ready.  This is just really hard and I want to be able to be me and take the next steps.  But they're so hard and I have no idea where they're leading.




MistressFrypan -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 12:00:00 PM)

Are you in college?  A lot of universities provide free and anonymous psychological help for their students.  If nothing else, join a LGBTAwhatever club on campus for support.

You mentioned telling your parents--are you still living at home?  If so, moving out and saving up money should be your #1 priority.  Regardless, don't spend your time looking for a mistress to feminize you and support you through your transition. It's just not going to happen.  Asking someone to feminize you and "pumpp" you with a strap-on isn't taking smaller steps to the goal of being a woman, it's taking steps way off to the side.  It's time that could be better spent on getting a job, or a second job (transition is VERY expensive).




MladyHathor -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 12:12:20 PM)

quote:

"femininzed by a Mistress and pumped with her strap on"

 
 
when it stops being about you, and starts being about Her and you--then you are on to something.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 1:23:01 PM)

In the meantime, I suggest working on transtioning to living as a female, not worrying about bdsm fantasies, which I ASSURE you have nothing to do with be a woman and everything to do with a man getting his jollies.

Seek out others who are on the transition path.  Many of them are into BDSM if my experience is any indication.  They will be of most help and guidance to you.




Lycoth -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 4:32:12 PM)

Yea that's the biggest reason why I posted here because there are probably people who have been in my shoes or people who know.  With what my profile says I was assuming that was something I was supposed to put up because of the other profiles and the likes it asks you.  And I am not sure where to take the next step, at least maybe getting someone who would "use" me would be something...at least a step in being Tara.  Things are pretty complicated for me, I live with my parents but I can't just move out, and I can't hold a job and go to college at the same time.  College is hard enough and I have cyclic vomiting syndrome.  I am getting better each year but...I feel like i'm at a road block I'm no where near ready to tell my parents.  I need to spend awhile as myself, as Tara first before I am comfortable to do that.  I know it's me but...I don't know how to really bring it out.  Thank you everyone for helping me out here.




LadyEllen -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 4:39:24 PM)

Lycoth - its nearly 1am here and I just got back from our band practice.

Check back here tomorrow and I'll see what I can come up with.

Dont expect it to be pretty, or even necessarily polite though - but it'll be for your own good.

E




Lycoth -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 4:56:09 PM)

Thank you =)




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 6:48:59 PM)

Since you are more interested in being yourself, and yourself being female, than you are in the fetish stuff, you might want to first revamp your profile. You sound like every other male subbie on here, and that isnt what you are wanting.
I have helped a few friends transition from living as a male to post-op living as a female. Part of the transition was realizing what they wanted to live AS, and what was not part of what they wanted to be. The fetish is not who you are, and until you are secure in your skin as Tara, it might be detrimental. Do not get involved with anyone or anything that might undermine your movement forward. Also, realize that until you are away from your parents, your movement will likely be stalled, since you cannot be yourself around them. Take that time to learn aout yourself mentally, the phsyical bits are the easy part.

DV




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/17/2008 8:00:38 PM)

first of all..there is no such thing as a woman trapped in a man's body....if you tell that to a psych they'll laugh at you.

you are either a man...or you are a woman.

2ndly...it cant have anything to do with fetish's or sexual issues.  it has to really be who you are.

3rdly..dont tell anyone until you are completely sure it is who you are...and not what you wish to be...not what you want to be...but is WHO YOU ARE.

the commitment is  too high a risk and until you are sure...you can not take that risk.  for you may lose family and friends.  so you have to be absolutely sure it is who you are.  because you might fall into isolation after coming out.

you need a community that accepts you...that should be your first step.  find it.  and dont ever say woman trapped in mans body...thats plain dumb.

you may even want to see a psych. now rather than later...  as you will eventually have to see one when you start to transition.  that is a mandatory thing in a transsexual standards of care.






LadyEllen -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 5:15:05 AM)

Hi Lycoth - here's the first bit

We get questions and enquiries quite often here from biological males who show interest in or declare an intention to transition to living as female, usually requesting advice, guidance and help. Since this is something I have experience of, having done it myself, and since also its an issue which recurs with some frequency, (and writing out the whole thing again and again is a pain in the neck!), this is meant to be a general piece which hopefully goes towards answering such threads in general.
 
Part One – “Trans”
 
First up – its absolutely, extremely, utterly vital for the enquirer to understand that the “trans” category covers a lot of ground. The “trans” category may be most easily divided into two sub-categories – the transvestite/ crossdresser sub-category and the transsexual sub-category, to distinguish motivations for transgender behaviours.
 
The transvestite/ crossdresser sub-category is generally defined by a psycho-sexual, emotional or recreational motivation for the transgender behaviour. However within this sub-category there are distinctive types of TV/CD who display various forms of transgender behaviour, each motivated by one or more primary motivations. Despite common misunderstandings, most of those who fall into the TV/CD sub-category in general, are heterosexual males. Some may engage in what would normally be deemed homosexual acts when dressed, but even amongst these they generally lack the emotional and romantic attraction to other males which would indicate homosexual or bisexual motivations.
 
The transsexual sub-category is generally defined by a gender identity issue which causes inhibited or distressing social functioning, against which the transgender behaviour operates to resolve these issues. And in this sub-category too, there are myriad variations. The more well known variation here is the full blown transsexual who seeks surgical sex change, but there are also those who do not seek this but take female hormones and anti-androgens to produce a more feminine appearance and help deal with their identity issues. And there are some who undertake neither pharmaceutical nor surgical interventions.
 
These two categories are often confused and the above is a generalisation for ease of understanding. Some confusion is provoked by association – many in the transsexual camp will find allies, particularly in their early experiments in resolving their issues, in the camp of the TV/CD group. And many in the TV/CD group will make use of treatments required by the TS camp, to assist in their transgender behaviours – eg facial hair removal.
 
There can also be confusion generated by the fact that many who fall into the TS camp are unable for whatever reason to make the transition they require, and will undertake the same brief sojourns into the female gender as the TV/CD camp does. But for those in the TS camp who are able to make the transition, the transition is permanent, 24/7 for the rest of their lives – for doing so resolves otherwise permanent gender identity issues which interfere with their normal functioning, whilst the TV/CD camp confines itself to brief and temporary transitions – for doing so resolves occasional but recurrent psycho-sexual, emotional or recreational needs.
 
The two camps are also divided by social reaction towards them. Whilst the TS camp is not yet a welcomed or accepted part of society, there has been much publicity of their condition and tolerance is these days just as likely as outright rejection and hostility by virtue of better public education. Meanwhile for the TV/CD camp, there is an expectation of shame, humiliation, rejection and hostility, which provokes this group into secrecy and personal shame about their transgender behaviour.
 
A side effect of this is to encourage and motivate those who should rightly be happy to be in the TV/CD group, to seek to justify themselves and their motivations and behaviours by ascribing to themselves aspects of the gender identity disorders of the better tolerated TS group, and to seek out treatments and even full blown transition (including sex reassignment surgery) which will affirm them in that category. There is also somewhat of a problem in this regard with fantasists who imagine that transition will be akin to a crossdressing session and provide a lasting and even permanent fulfilment of their crossdressing motivations. For normally gendered males, such transition is totally and utterly the wrong thing to do and will almost exclusively lead to depression, withdrawal and suicide. Meanwhile for female gendered males (the TS camp) such transition, (if successful), almost exclusively leads to a reduction in depression, withdrawal and suicide risk.
 
For these reasons it is very important indeed to have or to acquire the self-knowledge to know first, in which camp one belongs, and then to have or to acquire the self-acceptance of that knowledge.
 
There ought to be no personal shame or embarrassment if one is a CD/TV; it is not “better” or “more advanced” or “superior” to be in the TS group – in fact it is a very difficult, stressful, dangerous, lonely and costly thing in every way to resolve the issues of being in the TS group – and it would have to be ten times more difficult, stressful, dangerous and lonely if one did it for any reasons other than the right reasons.

So Lycoth, going from the above and your own personal thoughts, how would you describe your situation?

E




GoddessTeaze -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 5:36:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

first of all..there is no such thing as a woman trapped in a man's body....if you tell that to a psych they'll laugh at you.

you are either a man...or you are a woman.




And how do you call Transsexuals?
Who feel they we're born into the wrong body,
and why do Psychiatrists take them serious in the Netherlands?(at least)
And don't make fun of them?

Because it's a serious issue.

And why do people get operated on?
get a sexchange?

Because they arent happy in the body they we're born in.

Lycoth you've My email,
and you know how to get in touch.
I wish you well hon.
[:D]

GoddezzT`






Lycoth -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 5:41:32 AM)

Well, LadyEllen I feel that I fall into the TS group right now.  I feel that I am actually a women and hormone treatment and such would make me feel a lot better.  The problem is my situation is a bit tricky, I live with my parents and I'm no where near ready to talk to them about this.  I still live with them because I have Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome, so I can't really work and go to college at the same time.  Also, over the summer my gf was murdered and that has been extremely hard on me.  But she knew this part of me and wanted me to accept it.  I only recently have accepted that it is apart of me and I think she would be happy that I did.  But I'm afraid if I do tell my parents about this in the future they are going to say I'm going through a phase with Stacy's death, which I'm not.  It has always been there way before I even met her, I just never accepted it.  I am now, but this is rather difficult. 




Lycoth -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 6:00:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

Since you are more interested in being yourself, and yourself being female, than you are in the fetish stuff, you might want to first revamp your profile. You sound like every other male subbie on here, and that isnt what you are wanting.
I have helped a few friends transition from living as a male to post-op living as a female. Part of the transition was realizing what they wanted to live AS, and what was not part of what they wanted to be. The fetish is not who you are, and until you are secure in your skin as Tara, it might be detrimental. Do not get involved with anyone or anything that might undermine your movement forward. Also, realize that until you are away from your parents, your movement will likely be stalled, since you cannot be yourself around them. Take that time to learn aout yourself mentally, the phsyical bits are the easy part.

DV


Thank you very much =) yea I need to take my time and just put one step in front of the other.  I just updated my profile, let me know if it sounds better ^^




MistressFrypan -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 7:18:34 AM)

Listen...  I don't want to call you a liar or anything, but it seems like your real life situation magically seems to get a little worse and worse every time you post.  You picked a fairly unique user name, and when I googled it, I'm seeing stuff from up to June of last year.  Just how long did you have this girlfriend that you say was murdered last summer?  Were you cheating on her?  Did she even exist?  Your story smells of fake and I really can't stand people playing the pity card.  You've got a few craigslist postings up too, and it doesn't look one bit like a person who has Gender Identity Disorder; you even wrote "I'm looking to maybe lose my virginity" on one of them.

It also looks like you go by the name "lovestrapon" on certain sites, and this stuff seems to go back through February of last year.  I don't really any see time for a period of mourning, or any period of shock.  I don't see how you "recently" became aware of wanting these things done to you--you've been into strap-ons for a while now.

There's nothing wrong with liking strap-ons.  There's nothing wrong with liking anal play.  There's nothing wrong with being a CD instead of a TS.  It's perfectly abnormal, just like the rest of us.  What is wrong is coming up with false explanations for why you like it, to "legitimize" yourself (you don't have to).  It hurts transfolk and it hurts crossdressers too.

I apologize in advance in case there's something I'm not seeing here.  I'll even hand in my Internet Detective badge and hang up my e-fedora if I'm wrong.  I don't think that's the case, though.  I'm fairly close to powerwording you (but not on this site, I'll play by the rules), so I'd recommend either posting some sort of proof/apology or making a hasty retreat.




LadyEllen -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 7:31:00 AM)

Hi Lycoth

I'm sorry to hear about your girlfriend - that is truly an awful experience.

If you are convinced you have a gender identity issue, then the best thing you can do next is go and see a psychologist about it - preferably one trained in the field. Look up www.susans.org which has a huge set of resources and links, including links to psychologists in every state. The most important thing right now is to make sure that what you think you feel is really what you feel, that it is really a problem, how much of a problem it is, and therefore what actions are appropriate to deal with those problems. Be open and honest with whomever you see, and especially with yourself.

Full time transition is not necessarily what might be appropriate even where there is a problem. Because, and I will make no bones about this - transition is a really, really serious undertaking. What sorts my two groups in the previous post is this - for one group, suicide is the end result of making that transition and for the other, suicide is the end result of not making that transition.

You need to understand this. Transition risks your life and everything in your life. You have to be prepared to lose family, friends, home, career, personal safety and your life history up to now. Is your problem so serious that you are prepared to lose all of this? It may not come to losing all of it of course - but you dont know until you do it and you have to be prepared to lose everything for this.

And even then, thats not enough. It is a sad indictment of our species perhaps, but all of us make superficial judgements of others based on their appearance alone. For those who transition who dont pass as female (which means appearance, voice, movement), life can become a living hell in the wider world - rejection, hostility, harassment, violence and murder are the side dishes on the menu. Is your problem so serious that you are prepared to live with this? There are treatments and surgeries and all manner of tips and tricks to help with appearance of course - some cheap and simple, some expensive, difficult and painful.

And then you have to face up to the fact that most of us end up alone. Whatever we do - however much time and money we expend, however much pain we go through, we will never be women. We may be lucky enough to be accepted socially and professionally as women, but that acceptance ends at the bedroom door. We are not woman enough for heterosexual men or lesbians and we are not man enough for heterosexual women or gay men. Bisexuals of both sexes are generally equally as picky. The most likely partners for us are others in the same situation. And the unfortunately creepy band of male "tranny fanciers" who roam the Internet and trans groups.

Now, I'll be honest - I am incredibly lucky. I happen to have had it easy for quite unjustified reasons, I pass as female quite naturally. But I lost out on friends, career and home - and just that much is hard enough. I also advise the police here on dealing with trans matters and I see the hate crime figures against the likes of me - not pretty, and have had a few through here, referred to me for coaching and friendship by the police after being repeatedly beaten up, including one case where the person barricaded themselves in every night and slept with a fire extinguisher and the emergency number programmed on their mobile because their family had made attempts on their life by way of arson.

So, with all that as possible consequences, the question you have to ask is - is your gender identity problem causing you so much distress, such inhibited functioning in the world that the only way to fix it is to transition?

E




LadyEllen -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 8:41:41 AM)

I found this whilst researching - very interesting!

http://www.harrybenjaminsyndrome-info.org/




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 8:50:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

first of all..there is no such thing as a woman trapped in a man's body....if you tell that to a psych they'll laugh at you.

you are either a man...or you are a woman.




And how do you call Transsexuals?
Who feel they we're born into the wrong body,
and why do Psychiatrists take them serious in the Netherlands?(at least)
And don't make fun of them?

Because it's a serious issue.

And why do people get operated on?
get a sexchange?

Because they arent happy in the body they we're born in.

Lycoth you've My email,
and you know how to get in touch.
I wish you well hon.
[:D]

GoddezzT`





transsexuals suffer from gender identity disorder(although its called something else now).  gender and sexuality have no relation to one another.  therefore if their problem is sexual..they had better not transition because this is what leads to suicides.  if their problem is gender ..then it has nothing to do with your body.  gender is in the mind.  you will be male or you will be female.  it has nothing to do with your body.  bodys can be changed/adapted to fit the mind.

a transsexual will also never be the opposite sex because they will never have the actual real organs of the opposite sex.  the penis is still the same penis as its just inverted into a vagina.  nothing is changed.  if you have a sexual problem...and you have your penis changed... it causes suicides.  so in reality they DONT have sex changes at all because nothing physical is changed.  and a psychiatrist and lawyer is required to get your M changed to an F on your id's even after srs.

my point is a psychiatrist will not look at someone who uses that phrase of being trapped.  but they will look at someone who knows what gender they are.  it is better to know who you are than to be confused about the issues at hand.  a very high % of trans think they are trans because of sexual issues and NOT gender issues.  thats why they are required to see a psychiatrist...and here in canada its actually 2 psychiatrist you are required to see.

netherlands is a money grabber.  there is too much competition there and the price for surgery is half of what it is here.  this is because everybody is doing it and for the wrong reasons.  our gov't used to cover the surgery until people with the wrong reasons doing it commit  suicide.  now the gov't doesnt cover it and the cost for srs here is $20,000.
overseas its less than half that.  thailand is the most popular place for trans.  they have one of the highest populations of trans people in the world.  they also have the most dr's in the world and is why it is ultra cheap.  they also have very little rules about it.

i have 30 yrs gender and sexuality experience.  i am afterall born intersexed.  i was not even told that i was and i was diagnosed at age 35 when my endocrinologist at age 32 suggested that i was intersexed.  before that i was trans.  so i have done a TON of research and i KNOW what i am talking about.

i am trying to protect the op from making a possible (NOTE POSSIBLE) serious mistake.  i am HELPING them.  i am not denying their feelings or thoughts.  i am making them a reality which they hasveto diagnose and be sure of who they are before any drastic moves are taken.  he is only 20 and has LOTS of time.







Lycoth -> RE: Looking for some help and/or advice (4/18/2008 9:59:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressFrypan

Listen...  I don't want to call you a liar or anything, but it seems like your real life situation magically seems to get a little worse and worse every time you post.  You picked a fairly unique user name, and when I googled it, I'm seeing stuff from up to June of last year.  Just how long did you have this girlfriend that you say was murdered last summer?  Were you cheating on her?  Did she even exist?  Your story smells of fake and I really can't stand people playing the pity card.  You've got a few craigslist postings up too, and it doesn't look one bit like a person who has Gender Identity Disorder; you even wrote "I'm looking to maybe lose my virginity" on one of them.

It also looks like you go by the name "lovestrapon" on certain sites, and this stuff seems to go back through February of last year.  I don't really any see time for a period of mourning, or any period of shock.  I don't see how you "recently" became aware of wanting these things done to you--you've been into strap-ons for a while now.

There's nothing wrong with liking strap-ons.  There's nothing wrong with liking anal play.  There's nothing wrong with being a CD instead of a TS.  It's perfectly abnormal, just like the rest of us.  What is wrong is coming up with false explanations for why you like it, to "legitimize" yourself (you don't have to).  It hurts transfolk and it hurts crossdressers too.

I apologize in advance in case there's something I'm not seeing here.  I'll even hand in my Internet Detective badge and hang up my e-fedora if I'm wrong.  I don't think that's the case, though.  I'm fairly close to powerwording you (but not on this site, I'll play by the rules), so I'd recommend either posting some sort of proof/apology or making a hasty retreat.


None of this is fake I just combined two of my names I normally use when playing online games which are pretty common.  Lycos and amroth, I didn't want to use something that someone could draw something to me.  I am being 100% serious, my girlfriend stacy died over the summer, she passed away on July 4th when her parents pulled the life support.  Everything I have said I have been 100% serious.  I'm sorry if you think I'm lying but I assure you 1000000% i'm not. Everything I have said has been real and the reason each post of mine seems to get worse is because it's not information that I like to sure unless I have too.  I am NOT lying and I am not a liar.  I swear to God. =(




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