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Level -> Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 3:54:12 AM)
quote: STEELTON, Pa. - Accused of being elitist, a defiant Sen. Barack Obama lashed out at rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, saying "Shame on her" and mocking her vocal support for gun rights as their political tempest threatened to consume the Democratic presidential race. It was a startling twist Sunday to the three-day controversy that erupted after the publication of comments the Illinois senator made at a San Francisco fundraiser a week earlier. At that event, Obama said some working-class voters are bitter over their economic circumstances and "cling to guns and religion" as a result. Campaigning Sunday in Pennsylvania, Clinton derided the comments as "elitist and divisive" and suggested they could doom Democrats' chances for recapturing the White House in November if Obama were the nominee http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080414/ap_on_el_pr/obama_clinton_29

celticlord2112 -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 5:50:40 AM)
It's the height of irony for Clinton to be accusing Obama of making "elitist" comments. The perversity is that his comments were elitist. That is the best word to describe one person's rationalization for another person's beliefs. People don't "cling" to moral beliefs and attitudes because of economic frustrations. They "cling" because they believe.

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 8:27:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 It's the height of irony for Clinton to be accusing Obama of making "elitist" comments. The perversity is that his comments were elitist. That is the best word to describe one person's rationalization for another person's beliefs. People don't "cling" to moral beliefs and attitudes because of economic frustrations. They "cling" because they believe. Celticlord, I think you pretty much nailed it.

kittinSol -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 8:28:46 AM)
Like Yeshua Ha-Nozri to the cross.

charmdpetKeira -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 1:40:42 PM)
~fr~ This is just sad. They are like children, fighting over who gets the doll house. Are people really considering, letting these people, tell them what they want? k

GothishNomad -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 1:44:51 PM)
Unfortunately people "cling" to what they think they are supposed to cling to - too many so-called Christians don't have a clue to what they believe, they believe what they are told to believe because their daddy believed it, because his daddy believed it etc.....And well guns are the solution to everything right?

Stephann -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 3:42:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GothishNomad Unfortunately people "cling" to what they think they are supposed to cling to - too many so-called Christians don't have a clue to what they believe, they believe what they are told to believe because their daddy believed it, because his daddy believed it etc.....And well guns are the solution to everything right? Are you suggesting we cling to democracy because we're all intelligent enough to appreciate all that it entails? Does this explain one of the lowest voter turnouts of any democratic nation? Stephan

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 4:14:32 PM)
They said on the News that it was a "closed door affair." Hmmm,... rich people giving money to Obama behind closed doors for "what" exactly?

rook42 -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 4:37:36 PM)
The same reasons people behind closed doors give money to EVERY elected official. They're not all rich, though.

Floggings4You -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 5:51:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira ~fr~ This is just sad. They are like children, fighting over who gets the doll house. Are people really considering, letting these people, tell them what they want? Is that really what 'W/we' want from O/our President? To tell U/us what W/we want? That's certainly not what I look to the President for. The President is supposed to be beholden to the Constitution, not the whims of the majority, the minority, or the special interests (neither those of the 'left' nor the 'right'). The US is not supposed to be a democracy, but a Constitutionally-limited Republic. The President is a check against the legislative branch; the Presidency was never intended to legislate. The President isn't even supposed to be able to declare War, except for a very limited period of time, without Congressional approval.

Estring -> RE: Obama shoots back at "Annie Oakley" (4/14/2008 6:53:28 PM)
He was pandering to his audience in San Francisco at a private affair and never thought his words would become public. That's two dumb decisions in one night. This is getting good.[;)]

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