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RealityLicks -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/10/2008 9:11:24 AM)

There probably isn't a one-size fits all solution.  I live in the middle of the city and there is a sense of community in this locality but maybe not so tight as in the past.  Sometimes you only know its there when a common threat comes along; different people express it in different ways and not everyone digs chatting over the fence.




Politesub53 -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/10/2008 1:43:45 PM)

Certainly when i lived in Brixton, most locals knew whom was up to what. I think there is still a sense of community, just look how the locals helped search for the UM missing in Dewsbury recently.




RealityLicks -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/10/2008 5:20:10 PM)

I went missing as a kid and all the neighbours came out looking. The guy who ran the local shop closed it down to go and look for me, too.  London has a village-y feel in many ways.




Politesub53 -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/10/2008 5:22:55 PM)

RL i dont find this suprising, after all London sprung up for hundreds of small villages. This is possibly why its still a little tribal today.




RealityLicks -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/10/2008 5:29:57 PM)

Troo dat.  You're from Sarf and on our atlases up here south of the river it just says, "Here be dragons".




Gwynvyd -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 8:02:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Yep Gwyn - my ex and I organised a neighbourhood watch scheme. We also organised putting a gate on the alleyway between the houses to stop drunks et al pissing there and we're both involved with local politics and I advise the police on trans matters.

Trouble is, its a thankless task. Youre up against suspicion, apathy and every wiseass waiting to pick holes in whatever you try to do for them, and of those who do involve themselves it becomes more about who's top dog than the aims of whatever cooperation it is.

E


I hear you there... and it takes a huge amount of work.. and very little or no thanks.... but occasionaly you will get like minded folk helping who do not care about who is in charge.. and will just plug away.

Human nature is what it is. Usualy that means you live around a bunch of pissers. I hope you can get it going again.. or not lose faith. Good luck on that hun.

Gwyn




caitlyn -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 8:50:57 AM)

As an American, I can only hope that people in the United Kingdom have in place, whatever gun control laws they see fit for their own home, and be spared endless and banal commentary from the peanut gallery of those not living in the United Kingdom.
 
I can't help point out that so many citizens of the Sceptred Isles, who seem to have a nearly constant crusade on these boards to have gun control in the United States, a place where they do not live ... seem to be rather quiet, as it relates to a thread concerning their own home. [;)]




kittinSol -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 9:03:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

As an American, I can only hope that people in the United Kingdom have in place, whatever gun control laws they see fit for their own home, and be spared endless and banal commentary from the peanut gallery of those not living in the United Kingdom.
 

 
Why? Different opinions are interesting. Do you think that one nationality makes for one united opinion? A country isn't a home, a country is a collective.

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I can't help point out that so many citizens of the Sceptred Isles, who seem to have a nearly constant crusade on these boards to have gun control in the United States, a place where they do not live ... seem to be rather quiet, as it relates to a thread concerning their own home. [;)]



That's because there are far fewer things to argue about with regards to gun control in the United Kingdom - once again, you're arguing that people who aren't from your town shouldn't tell you what to do; are you that insecure about your gun that you think that others' opinions are an indictment on yours? I didn't think so either.

And that dust... caitlyn, you MUST consult.




Moloch -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 9:11:56 AM)

There are opinions and there are ignorant statments...




caitlyn -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 9:17:58 AM)

But what would my opinion be worth? I don't live in the United Kingdom, don't live through the result on a day-to-day basis, and have no stake in her stance on this issue, one way or the other.
 
Even your response is off target. You mention insecurity ... I have nothing to be insecure about. It seems entirely likely that there will not be gun control legislation in my lifetime, and even if there is, the likelihood is that existing legal owners will be grandfathered ... and even if they aren't, the police where I live will never enforce the law anyway, in typical American fashion.
 
Wanting people to comment on what actually applies to them in their own home, has nothing to do with insecurity, or unwillingness to be told what to do. The government tells us what to do every day. The comments are just useless. Look at your own response ... you actually live here, and still can't get the reasons correct, for those that desire to legally own firearms.
 
What value is the opinion of those not living here, when even the opinion of so many that do, is questionable at best?




kittinSol -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 9:27:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn
 
What value is the opinion of those not living here, when even the opinion of so many that do, is questionable at best.



If this is how you feel, I'm not quite sure what you are doing on a thread concerned with the United Kingdom; is it to express your woes over British people commenting on guns in America? Perhaps you'd like to segregate collarme threads by nationalities? Seriously...

What's your argument with regards to the topic at hand? That the UK population should equip itself with all matters of firearms?





Gwynvyd -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 9:33:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

What value is the opinion of those not living here, when even the opinion of so many that do, is questionable at best?


Personaly.... I have seen what works to help with crime here in the US... I know a fair bit about Politics and the general condition of things over there... ( I have a few friends from there.. and my fave news program I actualy watch is on BBC) The links I provided to help are links for the UK. So yes.. folks who do not live in that country can have valid and valuable input.

I am not worried that folks from the UK posting on a BDSM board will some how down the road in any way regulate my use, or carring of a fire arm.. or knitting needles for that matter. ( that poor granny being charged with possesing a weapon with defending herself them still chafes my ass )

As far as I am concerned the US govt can have my gun the moment they can pry it from my cold dead fingers. If the folks in the UK are cool with not being allowed thiers.. well more power to them.

I think we all have valid things to say no matter where we live.

Hell I think some people around here live under rocks.

Gwyn




caitlyn -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 11:23:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
What's your argument with regards to the topic at hand? That the UK population should equip itself with all matters of firearms?


Not sure what left field that came out of.
 
My opinion on the topic at hand is that the people of the UK are best at deciding what goes on in the UK ... and that my opinion, or that of any other American, is next to worthless. It doesn't promote harmony and understanding between us ... just makes us a fucking annoyance. 




seeksfemslave -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 11:37:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn
I can't help point out that so many citizens of the Sceptred Isles, who seem to have a nearly constant crusade on these boards to have gun control in the United States, a place where they do not live ... seem to be rather quiet, as it relates to a thread concerning their own home. [;)]
Well whoever they are  I hope they haven't been shot. I mean that most sincerely. 




NorthernGent -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 12:00:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

It doesn't promote harmony



Ebony and ivory......
 
Oh lord why don't we.....

Caitlyn, you're free to voice your concerns on the ins and outs of English existence; an annoyance you must certainly won't be. You're welcome 'round these parts any time you like - you know this. With regard to matters of "how it's done", of course you will be ignored. There's a long line of famous foreigners from scholars to musicians who have visited these shores and been shocked at the indifference afforded to them; you'll be in good company. You're still welcome, though.




caitlyn -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/11/2008 12:58:56 PM)

I appreciate that NG ... as always. [:D]
 
You know what though ... I will save my commentary about your nation, to items where we have common interest and stake, and I have perhaps an opinion that is both informed, helpful and who knows ... even possibly useful.
 
Value, and all that.




NorthernGent -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/13/2008 7:37:55 AM)

In the event you're in England one day, Caitlyn.....

I would have thought guns would be a good place to start passing on a spot of knowledge........considering your culture....and, your family has a small arsenal stashed away? including tanks and the like?.......




Raechard -> RE: UK gun control - Northern Ireland (4/13/2008 8:17:07 AM)

I'm not from N.Ireland but I still have opinions about it. Using the logic of ‘you can only talk about a subject if you are directly affected by it’ means that we should all only be talking about the weather because that is all any of us have in common if you think about it.

As long as someone reads about something or someone they can have an opinion about that something or someone and should voice it. Some people seem to think this place is about finding people that agree with them and never want to consider how things look through the eyes of others.

If anyone wants to talk about Britney Spears I’ll ask them if they know her personally before they comment on her shall I?[:D]




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