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sachiaiko -> Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 7:24:03 AM)

Hey folks,

I wanted to post a note to let you guys know that I've founded a charity to support in the rehabilitation of our troops and their families, mentally, emotionally and physically. We have more amputees then any other war we've ever faught in right now. The divorce rate among military families is as high as 90 percent in some units and the suicide rate among military folks is the highest it's ever been in the history of our country. We need to do something!

Nation ReEducation has joined forces with a company that does its own brand of coaching that is statistically blowing psychology out of the water! The results attained working this model are excelent, people who were filing divorce papers find hope and renew their vows, children excell in schools and learn ways to manage their anxiety regarding a parents absense to fighth in the war, or their parents vast changes since coming HOME from the war.

In addition to coaching of all types (relationship, school, perosnal life etc.) we are also offering Chiropractic services, Hypnostherapy and Massage, all of which have shown to have a VAST improvement in these soldiers state of being.

We want to continue providing these resources, and more, to thse families free of charge, but it costs money to do so and we depend wholly upon the national community at large to help fund the rehabilitation of these brave men and women and their families.

If you can find it in your heart to donate, anything from Cash through our website, or anything else you'd like to offer us, we would be incredibly greatful. We are planning a concert fundraiser, a fundraising dinner party and a couple silent auctions before the end of the year, so objects, items, gift certificates, autographed photos of well known people - ANYTHING of this nature can, and will make a difference. We can use ANYTHING at this point.

Its our turn to give back to these men and women. Please, pass the word around, tell people what we're doing, offer up our web address, talk about it on other forums and get people involved. It is incredibly appreciated.

If you wish to contact me, you can do so either through an email here, or you could just go to our website www.NationReEducation.com where there is a working "donation" page run by paypal, so it's very safe and accepts CC etc.

Please, find it in your hearts to help this insanely worthy cause. These people NEED the support that our country has currently failed to give them, many are suffering from severe PTSD, Anxiety, Agoraphobia, fear of cars, depression, suicidal tendancies and so much more. These families truly need us.

Thanks so Much for taking the time to read this.

Nikki




sirsholly -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 7:31:06 AM)

a great deal of what you are offering can be obtained by the veteran/famlies through the VA hospitals and/or by talking to a VA social worker at no charge.

Also, it might have been a good idea to complete your website prior to posting this. There is very limited info available.




DomKen -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 9:24:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sirsholly

a great deal of what you are offering can be obtained by the veteran/famlies through the VA hospitals and/or by talking to a VA social worker at no charge.

You're kidding right?




sirsholly -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 9:25:12 AM)

nope




DomKen -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 9:55:47 AM)

Have you ever tried to get VA services? I've been trying to get treatment for a documented and VA accepted service related injury for more than 3 years and the surgery is still not scheduled.




sirsholly -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 9:57:30 AM)

the VA is my health care provider. 




orfunboi -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 10:28:02 AM)

Maybe it differs from city to city, but my ex roommate never had any problem getting anything from the VA. They even removed an old tattoo because it got infected and gave him a wheelchair because he couldn't walk for a month. He is a ftm and gets his T shots from the VA.




DomKen -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 11:05:42 AM)

I've needed an orthopaedic procedure related to an injury I received while in the service, the only sort of health care people who have served after 1985 are eligible for, since 2005. I've had not a single problem getting the VA to acknowledge it is service related. However I keep getting the surgery delayed due to either some sort of surgeon availability issue or no available physical therapists for after the surgery.

The Chicago west side VA hospital where I go is always packed with vets trying to get services and no one I've encountered in any of the outpatient clinics or in the orthopedic clinic have indicated my issues are at all unusual.

My eldest brother is a Vietnam era vet and he is entitled to absolute full health care from the VA. He's had to get outside health insurance since he simply can't afford to spend days at a time waiting around a VA hospital for minor stuff.

My father and 2 of my uncles, all have passed away, were Korea and/or WWII vets and it took years to get veteran footstones and headstones for them. My father lied about his date of birth to enlist in the USN during the Korean war and the VA repeatedly tried to deny that the man with a different birth date on his death certificate was the same man as the one who enlisted back then despite us having his discharge papers and a lot of other documents. We had to go to an appeals hearing with lawyers before the VA gave in and put a pair of footstones on my father's grave, more than 5 years after his death.




sirsholly -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 11:40:10 AM)

Ken, i am sorry this is happening First...you are saying that vets who served after 2005 are only eligible for a certain procedure? That does not sound right.
Secondly, each VA is staffed with at least one patient advocate (depending on the size of the hospital). Perhaps you might think about calling the advocate and setting up a meeting.  Go in armed with as much info as you have...dates of cancelations, etc. And document everything discussed between you and the advocate and make damn sure he/she sees you doing so.

edited to add.....and keep calling the advocate (hounding ..if you will) until you get an answer.




sachiaiko -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 11:58:09 AM)

Actually, None of what we offer is available through any other organization. I went through a painstaking process of finding the best programs available, the coaching company works their own model which has not been reproduced by any other company around the world, and no other coaching company has been able to produce the results that they have consistently brought about.

Yes, my website is still in the working phase, mainly because my Coder is donating his time and I'm very greatful for that, but just because everything isn't done i figured i should still put myself out there. :smiles: Because more information is added to the site every day. A list of services is coming within the next 48 hours, I've a wonderful testimonial i just recieved i wanted to put up on the site today - I'll post it here:

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To Whom It may concern,

The services offered through Nation ReEducation have been valuable to my husband and I as we’ve been dealing with post-deployment issues.  Brian’s service in Iraq left him injured both emotionally and physically.  We had a very difficult time this past year rebuilding our marriage.  We’ve utilized all available resources through Madigan and Military One but did not find these services helpful.  Like over 90% of Brian’s unit, we were on the verge of divorce.

It wasn’t until we discovered NRE and their Relationship Coaching that we were finally able to move forward in our marriage in a healthy and positive way. In less than a month we were able to rediscover our love and commitment to one another, improve our communication and see hope for the future of our family.

We would be divorced right now if not for this approach.  Now our marriage is better than it’s ever been and we are excited about our future.  We would love to see other military families benefit from these services.

This program offers an approach to relationship coaching that is unique and more powerfully effective than any approach we’ve found.   NRE would be a valuable resource for all military personnel and dependents who are struggling to deal with military life and deployment issues.

Sincerely,

Staff Sergeant Brian and his wife Kim,



he's also called a couple times to make sure i know he's baking us. Its really precious, but it also really cements that what i am doing and offering is NOT available right now. If you only knew... so many men and women are asking for support, and are being refused psychological care because our administration did not BUDGET for the medical needs of this war. More vets are turned away with no help then are given military help. Its sad, but its VERY much the truth.

Hope that clears up a bit, but truly, this approach is VERY unique and very effective, its why i work with this company.

Nikki




DomKen -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 12:03:03 PM)

If you served after 1985 you can only receive free treatment for service related injuries unless you served in a defined combat theater. My injury is service related but not from combat. There is no problem with the VA saying I need the surgery but there is a problem getting the surgery to actually happen. The issue is supposed to be surgeon scheduling and physical therapist availability. I've already dealt with th patient advocate and it's pretty simple, too many recently discharged vets need orthopedic surgery and physical therapy so I am simply not high enough priority.

I will note that even if you want to pay to have the VA provide your medical care you may not be eligible. The VA refuses to enroll you if your income rises above a very low level.
http://www.va.gov/healtheligibility/Library/pubs/EnrollmentRestriction/EnrollmentRestriction.pdf





KatyLied -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 1:13:18 PM)

I have some questions.  Are you 501(c)3?  Incorporated?  




thornhappy -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 7:00:48 PM)

Some info from a Wiki page for the site:

The mission of Nation ReEducation is to positively effect change in the world, through love, creativity, compassion, education and action. We strive to offer services that cater to sound mind, body, relationships and environment to people from all walks of life, backgrounds, religious beliefs etc. We do this by offering cutting edge technologies in education, health and personal development that enable people to achieve a level of mental and emotional health, and attain their dreams and goals, positively contributing to their lives. We value the unique differences in people of all types, and ultimately intend to bring the world together in a way that acknowledges and values such differences as a crucial part of human evolution and development.

It's not all vet stuff.  And the divorce rate numbers are incorrect.

thornhappy




travelgman -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 8:14:47 PM)

sachiako. First let me say. It is a very nice idea and concept you have there. It sounds like your heart is in the right place. In wanting to help people who are having a very rough time of it. I have not looked over the company you are working with and this post isn't really about that.

I just want to comment on how you are starting your charity.As it  looks like in your enthusiasm to do good. You are making some amature mistakes. I am not saying this to berate you or your ideas. But to help you out. In this case amature just means you are not thinking about all the things that go into making any successful charity run  And I know what I speak of. I belong to several groups of varying sizes that support the troops with care packages and things of this nature. I have been a moderator online, helped out real world functions and even helped run one site over the last decade.

All your good intentions will mean nothing if people do not trust you. That includes the public in general and the troops and their families. You are basically running a business now. Yes I know you do not like to think of it that way. But legally and in how people will relate to your group. This is true.

First and foremost. As Katylied mentioned. You got to start the process to getting 501(c)3  status. And it takes time and money.  Very few people will ever take you serious without it. You are just some lady saying she is doing this and that without it to most people. You will not be seen as a real charity to most people as your group is organized right now And sadly some people will simply not donate if they can not turn it on their taxes...

Secondly. In this day and age. Your website is the life of your charity. Putting a website up where basically the only part of it that is working. is the donation page. Is at best once again amaturish and to be blunt. Most people are going to think you are a scam. You are doing more harm to your group by having that website up as it is than you realize. Look at it this way. Your website is your store. What would you think of a store that asked you to come into an empty building and give them money without anything to show for it?

The fund raisers are a good idea if you have established yourself better by that point. But be careful there to. Who is going to put these events on? Even small events require lots of work and time and effort and back and forth with the city where you are having them.. And while they can be great if done correctly. One little mistake -or god forbid someone gets hurt at one of them and you can find yourself in a big mess real fast.

My overall point here is. Don't let your desire to help. Blind you to the fact. Than an undertaking like this is. a lot of work and it never stops. There is always something to deal with. Make sure you can and are willing to do the work.. There is no shame in realizing your over your head and starting over with a better plan. Like most any business. It is better to start out small and build  up a quality reputation than try to do it all at once and have it all blow up in your face . Also you might want to consider seeing if a larger group would help you get started. Maybe let you work through them and use their name and facilities till you are able to more fully stand on your own. Of course this will take much discussion and convincing on your part. As to your ability and motives.

I hope you take these comments as they are intened. If I am being blunt. It is simply to try and show you that this may be a heck of a lot more time consuming that you might have thought about up to this point. If your committed to it and truly can live it. Go for it. Just know what your getting into first.


Just some thoughts off the top of my head.




sachiaiko -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 9:09:51 PM)

We are currently under the umbrella of another charity (501) while our paperwork is completed and our lawyers look over everything. We wanted to begin offering services, and are in the process of preparing a grant proposal for the DoD who are looking for alternative methods of healing that have shown to work for their vets. Its about time, and i'm excited about the opportunity. We're still in the young stages as a charity, but its growing fast, much faster then i realized it would be able to. We have a lot of support from local and natiional community - the vets are going nuts - so many of them are so happy to have an alternative to the old way of mental and emotional therapy that statistically does NOT work. Psychology shows no appreciable possitive change according to their own tests and research projects, less then 20 percent of the people who attend old school psychological care actually benifet from it, and they have to attend for many years to get any change at all for the better. The system we're offering is much more effective because it focuses on what they want rather then what's WRONG. That opens up a whole realm of possibilities.

So, we are in the process of getting our 501 paperwork done, and during that time we can accept donations of a larger nature and work under the umbrella of another charity who is supporting our cause. My lawyer suggested this was the best option to keep us moving while we get everything done. :)




sachiaiko -> RE: Charity to support our troops and their families in Rehabilitation (4/8/2008 10:08:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thornhappy

Some info from a Wiki page for the site:

The mission of Nation ReEducation is to positively effect change in the world, through love, creativity, compassion, education and action. We strive to offer services that cater to sound mind, body, relationships and environment to people from all walks of life, backgrounds, religious beliefs etc. We do this by offering cutting edge technologies in education, health and personal development that enable people to achieve a level of mental and emotional health, and attain their dreams and goals, positively contributing to their lives. We value the unique differences in people of all types, and ultimately intend to bring the world together in a way that acknowledges and values such differences as a crucial part of human evolution and development.

It's not all vet stuff.  And the divorce rate numbers are incorrect.

thornhappy



Actually, My stats arent incorrect, but i made it clear that it was up to 90 percent in SOME UNITS, some units aren't faring as well as others, depending on the work they are having to do. However, if you'd like to point me to soe other statistics i may not have seen i humbly accept any feedback, support and info.

I AM An amature, this is totally new to me. However, I'm dedicated!! This is new to me, i humbly know i have a helluva lot to learn, but trust me - these services are WANTED, people are already coming to me asking for them, which means i absolutely have to work to raise the funds to give them the services i KNOW will make a difference.

Also, realize that its more then just the vets themselves, but their children going from communication black outs, worried about their families... they need a lot of support too and we're making sure that they get it. I'm really excited... and i'm also aware i have a lot to learn, you know? I'm okay with that because i know that ultimately i will possitively impact many people and i'm a quick learner so i feel confident i can loose tha amature-part as i keep moving and lerning etc. :)




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