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ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed

Replace "global warming" with "creationism" and I'd swear I've heard this song before.

What is it with the Right Wing and their endless theories of how scientists are involved in global conspiracies?

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the greenhouse gases are escaping through the hole in the ozone layer , so nothing to worry about.

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Replace "global warming" with "creationism" and I'd swear I've heard this song before.

What is it with the Right Wing and their endless theories of how scientists are involved in global conspiracies?

YOU are the creationists! You are the ones shutting down research and restricting funding. You are the ones blackballing any scientist who dares question your theory. You are the ones who are pretending that there is scientific consensus when there isn't. You refuse to accept the research that questions global warming.

I want more research. I want more scientific study of the environment. It is the global warming crowd that is against this because they are afraid science might disprove their theory.

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the greenhouse gases are escaping through the hole in the ozone layer , so nothing to worry about.

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To find the truth.

Scientists that disagree with the theory are refused admission to conferences on global warming.

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The American Meterological Society even made a threat to start revoking licenses of meterologists who refuse to perscribe to a particular theory.

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If the research and evidence is so great and sound, why push these scare tactics? Something is wrong with the science...it is weak and the supporters of the theory know this. So they are trying to preserve a weak theory because they believe that even if it is wrong, it will at least lead to better environmental policy.

I disagree with this.... I dont feel it is right to use science in this way.

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No one is debating the fact that pollution is a problem. The problem I have is using science to scare the public in order to support your own agenda. That's wrong.

Out of curosity, what will you be saying when (not if) the tundra melts, flooding the atmosphere with a good deal more CO and CO2 than now exists?

"oops"?

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And the effects of rising temperatures aren’t waiting for some far-flung future. They’re happening right now. Signs are appearing all over, and some of them are surprising. The heat is not only melting glaciers and sea ice, it’s also shifting precipitation patterns and setting animals on the move. Some impacts from increasing temperatures are already happening.

Ice is melting worldwide, especially at the Earth’s poles. This includes mountain glaciers, ice sheets covering West Antarctica and Greenland, and Arctic sea ice.

Researcher Bill Fraser has tracked the decline of the Adélie penguins on Antarctica, where their numbers have fallen from 32,000 breeding pairs to 11,000 in 30 years.

Sea level rise became faster over the last century.

Some butterflies, foxes, and alpine plants have moved farther north or to higher, cooler areas.

Precipitation (rain and snowfall) has increased across the globe, on average.

Spruce bark beetles have boomed in Alaska thanks to 20 years of warm summers. The insects have chewed up 4 million acres of spruce trees. Other effects could happen later this century, if warming continues. Source for climate information: IPCC, 2007

Sea levels are expected to rise between 7 and 23 inches (18 and 59 centimeters) by the end of the century, and continued melting at the poles could add between 4 and 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters).

Hurricanes and other storms are likely to become stronger.

Species that depend on one another may become out of sync. For example, plants could bloom earlier than their pollinating insects become active.

Floods and droughts will become more common. Rainfall in Ethiopia, where droughts are already common, could decline by 10 percent over the next 50 years.

Less fresh water will be available. If the Quelccaya ice cap in Peru continues to melt at its current rate, it will be gone by 2100, leaving thousands of people who rely on it for drinking water and electricity without a source of either.

Some diseases will spread, such as malaria carried by mosquitoes.

Ecosystems will change—some species will move farther north or become more successful; others won’t be able to move and could become extinct. Wildlife research scientist Martyn Obbard has found that since the mid-1980s, with less ice on which to live and fish for food, polar bears have gotten considerably skinnier.  Polar bear biologist Ian Stirling has found a similar pattern in Hudson Bay.  He fears that if sea ice disappears, the polar bears will as well.

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All Things Considered, September 10, 2007 · Alaska scientist Katey Walter studies an aspect of climate change that has been largely overlooked: methane emissions. Methane is a greenhouse gas that is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide, which means it is much more efficient at trapping heat. As a result, methane feeds into a loop of global warming.Thawing Yields More Methane As global temperatures rise, permafrost thaws. Ponds and lakes form in the depressions left behind by melting chunks of ice in the ground. In the bottoms of ponds and lakes, bacteria feed on the carbon that previously had been frozen underground and burp it out as methane.And because methane emissions from lakes haven't been carefully studied, scientists worry that projections for global warming could be far worse than currently estimated.Walter, who teaches at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks, says that methane is being released from lakes in the far north — Alaska, Siberia, elsewhere — at a far greater rate than anyone has estimated.

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Out of curosity, what will you be saying when (not if) the tundra melts, flooding the atmosphere with a good deal more CO and CO2 than now exists?

"oops"?

Not even when, it's already starting. National Geographic has done articles and shows on this subject.


Scientist Measures an Overlooked Greenhouse Gas

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All Things Considered, September 10, 2007 · Alaska scientist Katey Walter studies an aspect of climate change that has been largely overlooked: methane emissions. Methane is a greenhouse gas that is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide, which means it is much more efficient at trapping heat. As a result, methane feeds into a loop of global warming.Thawing Yields More Methane As global temperatures rise, permafrost thaws. Ponds and lakes form in the depressions left behind by melting chunks of ice in the ground. In the bottoms of ponds and lakes, bacteria feed on the carbon that previously had been frozen underground and burp it out as methane.And because methane emissions from lakes haven't been carefully studied, scientists worry that projections for global warming could be far worse than currently estimated.Walter, who teaches at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks, says that methane is being released from lakes in the far north — Alaska, Siberia, elsewhere — at a far greater rate than anyone has estimated.

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No one is debating the fact that pollution is a problem. The problem I have is using science to scare the public in order to support your own agenda. That's wrong.