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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 1:55:48 AM

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RE: errors you may commit. Don't admit to wrongdoing. Ever. "I don't remember doing it that way, but I may have" is as close as you should come unless you are standing in the middle of a circle of your co-workers who are all pointing the finger at you.

Totally disagree.

One of the things that earned my boss's respect quickly at my last job was when I made an error, I would go directly to him and tell him about it, and suggest a way of fixing it while asking what he thought. He told me it took guts to do that and it gained his trust as well as his respect.

I also shared credit for a job well done with those who helped me get the job done.

Another good tip is take good notes while you're being trained. Refer to your notes a lot and that will prevent you from asking repeated questions. Then again if you're unsure about something, ask for help, rather than guess.

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 4:56:56 AM

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Wear heels and a really short skirt with no panties. Make copies of your bum on the copy machine. Put Bailey's in your coffee. Bj's in the supply closet. Gossip about the boss.
Oh wait...wrong thread. My bad.

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 5:06:38 AM

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Kittinsol: Rule one of office work: it's not what you do that matters, it's how much noise you make about it. No. absolutely not true. You are not getting a raise, dear. well...unless you bat those baby blues and wiggle a bit and say pleeeeeeasse...

Empy, three words... Sexual. Harrassment. Lawsuit.

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 5:11:42 AM

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I once fucked and ditched the woman that became my boss.

That was bad politics.

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 5:13:19 AM

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I once refused to fuck the big bad boss.

That was bad office politics too

(guess what happened?).

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 10:03:09 AM

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Just ease in the door, and WATCH!!!! I know it's a bitch between appearing reserved versus "stuck up" in a new environment. Observe the other employees and how they interact, but don't try to match their attitude from day 1......maintain a professional demeanor, there will be time in the future to make jokes and cut up.....in the beginning, it's a major no-no. If you have a job where you have any kind of probation or "trial" period, toe the line, keep your mouth shut and do what you're told. Trust me on that one!

As mentioned, make your buddy look good....it is also his recommendation that helped you get in. Obviously, you have some sort of skills that the place wants, recommendations will only go so far. Try not to focus solely on the thought that he got you in, the decision was probably made from someone higher, right?

DO NOT, I can't stress it enough, DO NOT GET INVOLVED IN OFFICE POLITICS!!!! If someone starts slamming their co-worker, just politely tell them that you will draw your own conclusions once you actually meet said person. If done politely, it should be fine....it's the easiest way I've found to handle that situation. Don't get dragged into the gossip circle.....if it appears you are paying the least bit of attention, the gossip mongers will try to get you involved in it. Keep an ear open, pay attention to what is said around the place, but don't repeat it!

Also, and this may have been mentioned, but it's just sort of a rule of thumb I've followed.....keep your private life just that....PRIVATE! About all anyone at work knows about me is I have 3 cats, one son, and a yellow scooter from hell.....and tha'ts just fine wth me. I have one very good, close friend I've "bonded" with, but even she doesn't know everything. I learned a long time ago, there are no secrets in a police department....unless you keep them yourself.

Good luck with the new job, hope it goes well for you!

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 10:43:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I once refused to fuck the big bad boss.

That was bad office politics too (guess what happened?).

If the office minion won't drop her pants, surely she has to go?

Surely, one of the rewards of being a boss is to have ones evil way with the minions.

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 11:34:09 AM

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Don't talk on the company phone/or your cell phone unless you're on your break.
Drill a hole in the bathroom stall for some naughty fun ;)))

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 12:07:48 PM

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Right then.

Yours truly has been hired for office work. I will try to smile while on phone as voice then relects it.

My buddy got me in. But I was not to admit I know him. [a platonic friend] The 3rd time asked- I had no choice but to admit I knew him. Mmy buddy is afraid- i wont tow the line and his reputation would be effected. Now- we all have seen me on a rant, fragmented, obtuse, poor grammar and spelling. We seen me personalize topics that worked me up- and in the end- alot of effort for --- words on a screen.

Anyhow- I just got word on this 2 hours ago. I start tommorrrow. So I need to brush up on office demeanor and politics, and CYA.

Your analysis please.

You know you have some shortcomings; keep making an effort to improve them.
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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 12:27:41 PM

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You've got to think high to rise,
You've got to be sure of yourself before you can ever win a prize.

Aileen, you're sacked love....but, do take my number and bring your show 'round to my home complete with personal copier where you can take pictures of your arse 'til the cows come home.....

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 1:07:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Right then.

Yours truly has been hired for office work. I will try to smile while on phone as voice then relects it.

My buddy got me in. But I was not to admit I know him. [a platonic friend] The 3rd time asked- I had no choice but to admit I knew him. Mmy buddy is afraid- i wont tow the line and his reputation would be effected. Now- we all have seen me on a rant, fragmented, obtuse, poor grammar and spelling. We seen me personalize topics that worked me up- and in the end- alot of effort for --- words on a screen.

Anyhow- I just got word on this 2 hours ago. I start tommorrrow. So I need to brush up on office demeanor and politics, and CYA.

Your analysis please.

You _know_ you_ have_ some_ shortcomings_ keep_ making_ an effort_ to_ improve_ them.
Don't _be_ afraid_ to_ ask_ questions_ask_ for_ help_ask_ for _direction.

There, that's better! Sorry Angelika, but i miss the underscore in your posts!

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 1:58:10 PM

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Congrats, hunky ! You obviously have a lot of friends here that are rooting for you, dude. That says a lot about YOU and should make you proud.

As far as advice is concerned,folks in this thread have already given a wealth of it. I especially like how Emperor put it all into a nutshell, ummm, two nutshells. That's plenty. And remember, keep it simple, do the job the best that you can and finally, be yourself. You haven't gone wrong yet, being yourelf.

Best wishes!

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 2:08:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Aileen, you're sacked love....but, do take my number and bring your show 'round to my home complete with personal copier where you can take pictures of your arse 'til the cows come home.....

My arse and cows should never be in the same sentence. Other than that...what a mighty fine offer.

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 2:28:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: parttimehotty

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Right then.

Yours truly has been hired for office work. I will try to smile while on phone as voice then relects it.

My buddy got me in. But I was not to admit I know him. [a platonic friend] The 3rd time asked- I had no choice but to admit I knew him. Mmy buddy is afraid- i wont tow the line and his reputation would be effected. Now- we all have seen me on a rant, fragmented, obtuse, poor grammar and spelling. We seen me personalize topics that worked me up- and in the end- alot of effort for --- words on a screen.

Anyhow- I just got word on this 2 hours ago. I start tommorrrow. So I need to brush up on office demeanor and politics, and CYA.

Your analysis please.

You _know_ you_ have_ some_ shortcomings_ keep_ making_ an effort_ to_ improve_ them.
Don't _be_ afraid_ to_ ask_ questions_ask_ for_ help_ask_ for _direction.

There, that's better! Sorry Angelika, but i miss the underscore in your posts!

I feel so special!

thanks!!!

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 2:32:54 PM

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Aileen: Wear heels and a really short skirt with no panties. Make copies of your bum on the copy machine. Put Bailey's in your coffee. Bj's in the supply closet. Gossip about the boss.
Oh wait...wrong thread. My bad.

I KNEW IT...that was you! It all worked out, tho. I auctioned off your personnel file on eBay.

Smooch.

E.

(edited because whenever I write a post to Aileen I am so befuddled I cannot spell.)

< Message edited by Emperor1956 -- 3/28/2008 2:33:40 PM >

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 2:35:54 PM

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Hey all! Today went great! Well- manageable. There is plenty of space IN the office...no computer unless you count the places cell phone. Phaze one of the project is easy-ish.    Phaze 2, if I get that far --would be like selling a person a Ford when I drive and prefer GM.

Finger nails. uhuh. Being that I garden. ---I need to clean up my fingers.

The very job is temp BUT if I do well, I could be asked to do other projects.

It was odd driving in- and back.   A boost of self esteem indeed.

Being that I have limitations, my shifts will be 4-6 hours.

--I have to remember to answer the question and stick with the point.   Not explore ways to change anything.   While I am told there is some flexabilty- the powers from above have a method to their madness- and irregardless if I agree with it-I am paid to walk THEIR walk. Not my own.

-I think I can stay out of   the riffs. I DO need to recall socializtion skills.

BTW- 3 were to be there today. 1 came....that being me.

I did ask per W-2 or1099, and explained as to why. I am told the accounting department can handle my concern.

...I see my handwritten notations are what the boss likes.   So tommorrow I will do more of that. :-)

With prices going up on everything I touch, this comes at a good time. Oddly- the place is next door to a place Iworkedand LOVED! [7 years]

so far so good. I had told my buddy   that- it is easier to work when the roof isnt dependent to that check. when everything -=every second rides on making rent- i got jittery.

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 2:39:49 PM

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Oh wow I'm SOOOO happy it went well for you today! I thought of you this morning when I woke up. (I always think I'm going to go to work, until I fully wake up and realise I won't be going lol).I think it is fantastic that you are out there doing this.Go you!

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 2:42:26 PM

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 2:46:11 PM

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Hey Hunk Boy...way to go! Congrats on the first day. The W-2 vs. 1099 is simple in concept but harder in execution. Far easier for you is to become a W-2 employee, which means they hire you, and they pay ALL of your employee taxes (this means they withhold from your check an amount for Fed income taxes, State income taxes, Local income taxes (if applicable) and MEDICARE and FICA (two mandatory federal withholdings). The company pays in equal amounts on your behalf for these taxes. This means two things to you -- on the plus side, at the end of the year, you've pretty much paid your tax liability, you file one Fed. tax form, and you get back or pay in depending on your situation.

1099 means you are an independent contractor. That means they give you a "gross check" -- the FULL amount of your earnings, with none of those deductions. But the catch is you need to make those deductions yourself. You need to pay "estimated tax payments" to the Fed and probably to Pennsylvania every 90 days. Its NOT that hard, but it has to be set up and has to be done.

I'd opt for the W-2, tho it really depends on your personal tax status. If you want to contact me off list for more info, go ahead. And again, congrats.

E.

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"What's for breakfast? What do you say, Piglet?"
"I say, I wonder what's going to happen exciting today?"
Pooh nodded thoughtfully.
"It's the same thing," he said.

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RE: Office politics ? advise pls - 3/28/2008 3:18:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Other than that...what a mighty fine offer.

'Shame the moon is closer than the US.......'any chance you can hop on a flight to Manchester?

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

My arse and cows should never be in the same sentence.

A fair enough request....

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