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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 1:28:01 AM

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I do not see subspace as a stop sign; more as a caution signal. A sub in subspace may not be verbal at all, for instance, so all the responsibility for observing safe limits devolves to me for the duration. A diabetic in subspace may float right past a needed dose of insulin...or a hypoglycemic past the need for some protein. The fairly standard quiz for any masseuse seeing a new client is a guideline I try to use, so that I don't bump into surprises--any old or recent injuries I need to know about, any current medications, etc. (An ex-husband with a seizure disorder had once had a shoulder dislocated by some fool cop trying to hold him down (thinking that it was an LSD flashback, but it was a damn stupid move even if he'd been correct).

Nervous moments: I once had a sub fall completely into what I would call a state of hypnotic regression (to a childhood traumatic event) and the moment sub called me "Mommy", I knew that sub was not with me even in subspace (I never MommyDomme). Rather than try to yank the sub out suddenly, we rode the event through together--I made sure of sub's physical safety and allowed sub's cues to guide my actions (extremely minor contact) until sub reached a catharsis moment--successfully breaking free of one cuff in the process! (What can I say, I had to wear both the domina hat AND the priestess hat at the same time.) Once the sub was back with me, sub proved me correct: there was no recall of the statements, typical of hypnotic regression in some therapeutic modes. (Yikes, I thought!) So I made absolutely certain, first, that sub was mentally and emotionally back and physically here and now...and then, in gentle aftercare chit-chat, as sub said something about embarrassing itself, there was my opening, and I reminded sub that you never, never, blame the victim. The remainder of that chunk of aftercare constituted pastoral counseling more than kinky aftercare. Once again, I'm glad that I took time out from exploring the scene a decade back to conclude my priestess training...because it keeps coming in useful in the Scene and in the scenes.

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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 7:08:59 AM

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Soooo agree with that littlebitxxx
Its best when its a long ride.
Have started video taping things in the past so i can watch it later.....because i rarely remember much when its going on.

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Stop when entering subspace?!? Gawd No! That's too much like coitus interruptus!

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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 7:46:07 AM

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Having had the pleasure of scening with a fair number of doms over the years and watching many, many more scene with their subs I have noticed that a lot of doms seriously curtail their actions or even completely stop the moment they realize their sub has entered space. I've also, thankfully, scened with dominants who know how to use sensation to guide and prolong subspace for an extended period of time.

Do you stop when your subs enters space and if so why? Or do you guide the ride?

Subs, do you prefer your dominant to stop as soon as you enter space or do you prefer to take a long, guided trip?

It depends on the circumstances of the scene each time. Like some, I view it as a Caution sign of entering New Territory. Sometimes, you can use that space to explore things that have been consented to though I am not big on pushing limits in that space because of the potential for damage; if I do push limits, they know beforehand that if they get to space, I am going to push something...with extreme care. Sometimes though, once they have reached this space, that is when I begin to bring them down by becoming more sexual. Sometimes the space is an endpoint and I will do very little while they are there though I never stop activities completely...just begin to decrease the intensity as I move towards ending the scene.

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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 8:36:46 AM

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It varies, including whether she gets there or not. If she does space and I want to keep her there, I will greatly reduce the intensity of the flogging. I will flog lightly from then on because it is my experience that light plays works better when she is in a spaced state. Of course I can work hard things around her spaced state also.

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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 1:56:33 PM

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Subs, do you prefer your dominant to stop as soon as you enter space or do you prefer to take a long, guided trip?

What a great way to express it. I much prefer the long, guided tour. Lessening the intensity keeps me in the place He takes me too.

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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 2:16:21 PM

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Subs, do you prefer your dominant to stop as soon as you enter space or do you prefer to take a long, guided trip?

if i get in sub space and he knows it i would love for it to be long and guided as long as my body doesnt start to hurt in a bad pain, because i dont get to be in sub space very long or very often. i dont even know if i have truely experienced sub space yet but i might have.

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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 2:22:59 PM

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My Sir is a sadist, and so, when I hit subspace, and no longer feel the pain of the impact of the cane, he typically stops - because he isn't hurting me any more.
Once he kept on caning me, and pulled me out of subspace, and I so did not enjoy that - but that wasn't my decision. ... damn!

and yelling at the Dom during a scene? - I go through a period of fighting and yelling when I am heading for subspace, where the caning hurts like hell. I don't yell at my Sir (at least, not if I know what is good for me!), but it might sound disrespectful to others. Actually, my Sir likes to know he is hurting his girls, so he enjoys the yelling. Don't know what the neighbours think though - lol.

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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 7:18:53 PM

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I think it depends on what you're playing for. If the play is for a sadist to seek pleasure, then she probably isn't going let the bottom drift in a tranquil high. Personally, my partner likes to keep me engaged, and if I get all spacey, she does something to make me scream.

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RE: Doms...do you see subspace as a stop sign? - 3/27/2008 10:35:49 PM

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erin,

For me, it depends on the sub, the goal of play, their positioning, and their personal reaction to subspace. If subspace is the goal of play then I will guide them through as long a ride as the two of us can stand. As has been mentioned, subspace can be a good place to explore the edges with out nervousness. If subspace isn't the goal, then I just have to find a way to *snap* them out of it!