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The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 6:40:49 AM

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article3617160.ece

After a one year investigation of 235 countries' security and standards, Britain ranked as no.7 in the world. Click on the link to see where the other countries placed...

Information from Jane's Defence Services

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 6:50:25 AM

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1 Vatican
2 Sweden
3 Luxembourg
4 Monaco
5 Gibraltar
6 San Marino
7 Liechtenstein
8 UK
9 Netherlands
10 Ireland
11 New Zealand
12 Denmark
13 Austria
14 Andorra

I know the highlights are technically countries, but it's easy for them to be stable, innit, wot with them being tax havens and only having millionaires and slaves living in them, and all that. I won't even say anything about the Vatican figuring there ;-) .

I love that France came before the USA. But Sweden at the second place, with their suicide rate? And Switzerland's position is easily explained by the number of tax havens (innit) that precede her: I can vouch for her stability as a first-hand customer

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Not many surprises there: how reassuring

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 8:00:02 AM

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Wonder where I should move to..........

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 8:10:51 AM

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Apart from small financial safe haven countries, I do note that countries that via more towards social democracy tend to be more stable.

I am surprised Belgium is so high, that is bearly a country, its more like two countries.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 8:27:38 AM

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I think the suicide thing with Sweden is a myth. According to this, they are 15th in the European suicide league (there's a fucking league?!)

http://www.sweden.se/templates/cs/Article____12355.aspx

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The source of the rumour is a speech given by US president Dwight D Eisenhower in 1960, in which he claimed that “sin, nudity, drunkenness and suicide” in Sweden were due to welfare policy excess.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 8:35:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: RealityLicks

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article3617160.ece

After a one year investigation of 235 countries' security and standards, Britain ranked as no.7 in the world. Click on the link to see where the other countries placed...

Information from Jane's Defence Services

I tried to track down the actual "investigation" data. First by going to the link you provided, which contained hardly any data other than another link to the front page of Jane's, along with the 50 country list.

I couldn't find anything at Jane's on the story (could be there, but wasn't interested enough to spend an hour searching).

Without knowing the methodology, the supposed "data" and listing is pretty useless.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 8:42:42 AM

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The list was devised with the aim of assessing the best states in which to invest. Click on the link and then look for the 3 links in a box on the left. While you'll only find limited detail, Jane's is a globally recognised consultancy in security, transport, defence etc.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 8:49:17 AM

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I was going to buy some really tacky shirts and move to St Lucia but now I think I'll just get a funny hat and move to Vaticn City. Wait, how to get an apartment there and who would the landlord be?

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 8:58:53 AM

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Wherever you go, don't move to Austria

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 9:44:18 AM

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I think the Vatican might be a bit lacking in nightlife. I'd go with St Lucia, if I were you.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 10:33:35 AM

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I am curious as to what the definition of "stable" is that they are using.

Stable in what way, that is to say.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 10:34:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: RealityLicks

The list was devised with the aim of assessing the best states in which to invest. Click on the link and then look for the 3 links in a box on the left. While you'll only find limited detail, Jane's is a globally recognised consultancy in security, transport, defence etc.

Thanks, RL. Still not much, but more than in the original article. I thought these two blurbs were interesting, especially the way they were phrased:

Mr Le Mière said that the US had fallen down the scale, although it still scored an average of 93 out of 100, partly because of the proliferation of small arms owned by Americans and the threat to the population posed by the flow of drugs from across the Mexican border.

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He explained that Iraq had managed to escape the ignominy of being in the bottom ten because, despite “extremely high levels of violence”, it had a “relatively stable Government” that controlled a significant area of the country and had good economic prospects.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 10:46:15 AM

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You're right, the difference between many countries is minor and there are some terrible ironies flying about with this war.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 10:56:47 AM

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Wherever you go, don't move to Austria .

I always thought Switzerland should eb used as a nuclear testing ground but I'd only be slightly disappointed if it was Austria.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 10:57:44 AM

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Only after the football this Summer!

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 11:08:20 AM

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Only after the football this Summer!

I can't get over the 20 hours I spent in the rain while hitching through Switerland in 1974.

Which was slightly worse than ending up in Austria on a feast day, cold and hungry with only Deutsch Marks, French and Swiss Francs, Guilders and Pounds in my pocket and no one would change any money to Austrian Schillings. I've had a grudge ever since and I'd be struggling to get past it for the football this summer. Especially since England id out.

I know I should really get past it but I can't.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 11:12:28 AM

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Guss gott! 20 hours?!

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 11:28:03 AM

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The list was devised with the aim of assessing the best states in which to invest. Click on the link and then look for the 3 links in a box on the left. While you'll only find limited detail, Jane's is a globally recognised consultancy in security, transport, defence etc.

More like no detail at all. There is zero discussion of methodology, zero discussion of weighting ascribed to various factors, and only cursory mention of a few specific factors.

It does not matter how well respected Jane's is (and, just to be clear, they are respected). Without a proper accounting of how the list was compiled, it communicates no meaningful information.

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 11:58:56 AM

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I know the highlights are technically countries, but it's easy for them to be stable, innit, wot with them being tax havens and only having millionaires and slaves living in them, and all that.

My dads mrs lives in Luxembourg, she is paid peanuts and the cost of living is HUGE but yeah there are tax breaks, not that it helps her much :P

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RE: The World's Most Stable Countries - 3/25/2008 12:45:14 PM

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How does the song go... ah yes:

Spending warm summer days indoors
Writing frightening verse
To a buck-toothed girl in Luxembourg
So ask me, ask me, ask me
Because if it's no love
Then it's the bomb, the bomb, the bomb, the bomb, the bomb,
The bomb, the bomb that will bring us together.

The Smiths.

Anyway, I went to Lichtenstein once, and it was raining. Not a fun place. I had no money to hide either. I lived in Switzerland, but Geneva's not considered to be Switzerland by the Swiss, because it's too international.

I love these kinds of reports :-p .

And I still don't advise Austria.

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