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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 9:54:48 AM   
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In my view the Speaker is mostly talk and that is it.  She has taken little action on the issues and never seem to get congress organized enough to override the Presidents veto. The only thing she done is when Syria was accused of ploting to kill and has done so Lebenses Officials who oppose Syrian present in Lebonan is meet with the Syrian President wear a scraf over her head. 
 
China owns us and she will not do anything but talk.

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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 11:47:07 AM   
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I disagree, we're paying her to look out for the interests of the U.S.



Spot on, Popeye.

Who's the judge and jury in matters of freedom and civil liberties? I don't recall the United States being appointed by the world to this position - you'll find it's a self-proclaimed status.

'Pointing the finger with the situation in Iraq and Nicaragua and Venezuala etc...........you couldn't make it up.

Edited to add: it's amusing to watch people having their strings pulled without realising...."look at us, aren't we great, we speak out on Chinese atrocities.....we couldn't possibly have anything more than benevolent motives in Iraq".........the result: less soul searching, more war, more death, some Americans delude themselves that they're humanists, the US government and associates clean up.


Worse NG look at when the US Government massacred nearly 200 men women and children at waco?  How about the murrah building where retired military bomb experts looked it over and said it was blown from the inside outwards?  Pretty tough to do with a truck bomb but we got our patsy and murdered him too so we are all fat dumb and happy.   Seems we have a little dirt under our skirt too.

Finally its the same in your hood.  Look at 7/7 where 90% of the cameras that work flawlessly on every other day just happened to fail on that day.

I think people would rather believe in coincidence than face the harsh reality that our governments are criminal syndicates that allow us to feed off of their scraps.

As far as the US taking a position about it its all just posturing.  Its a good show for us to go on a finger pointing fest so we can say SEE WE ARENT AS BAD AS THEY ARE.

Damn I feel good about myself now!   LMAO!






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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 3:03:50 PM   
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Who's the judge and jury in matters of freedom and civil liberties? I don't recall the United States being appointed by the world to this position - you'll find it's a self-proclaimed status.



How very...presumptuous of you. You honestly think we wanted to be the world's cops? Look around the world at the sheer numbers of people asking the sole super-power for help. They whine and cry for our support and if they get it from us, another group bitches about our nose being where it's not wanted. If they don't get it, then whatever atrocities that follow are blamed on us.

Self-proclaimed my ass. That role was thrust on us over the years and then we caught hell for accepting it. We just can't win with people like you and I'm sick of trying.

Gee....I guess one can only wonder what would have happened had America not heeded England's call for assistance back in the 1940's. Oh right....that was "just" in your eyes, I forgot. Since you "approved" of that assistance, it made it "OK."

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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 3:10:44 PM   
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Gee....I guess one can only wonder what would have happened had America not heeded England's call for assistance back in the 1940's. Oh right....that was "just" in your eyes, I forgot. Since you "approved" of that assistance, it made it "OK."



......er........wasn't Pearl Harbour a factor in all that?

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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 4:37:58 PM   
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Who's the judge and jury in matters of freedom and civil liberties? I don't recall the United States being appointed by the world to this position - you'll find it's a self-proclaimed status.



I'm not too sure I agree here. It's not often a retard gets to become the democratically elected president of a Western nation and then keep office.



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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 7:04:36 PM   
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Gee....I guess one can only wonder what would have happened had America not heeded England's call for assistance back in the 1940's. Oh right....that was "just" in your eyes, I forgot. Since you "approved" of that assistance, it made it "OK."



......er........wasn't Pearl Harbour a factor in all that?


Not really.  Lend Lease was before Pearl Harbor.


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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 8:50:06 PM   
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Who's the judge and jury in matters of freedom and civil liberties? I don't recall the United States being appointed by the world to this position - you'll find it's a self-proclaimed status.



How very...presumptuous of you. You honestly think we wanted to be the world's cops? Look around the world at the sheer numbers of people asking the sole super-power for help. They whine and cry for our support and if they get it from us, another group bitches about our nose being where it's not wanted. If they don't get it, then whatever atrocities that follow are blamed on us.

Self-proclaimed my ass. That role was thrust on us over the years and then we caught hell for accepting it. We just can't win with people like you and I'm sick of trying.

Gee....I guess one can only wonder what would have happened had America not heeded England's call for assistance back in the 1940's. Oh right....that was "just" in your eyes, I forgot. Since you "approved" of that assistance, it made it "OK."



The 'sole super power'? Are you sure? Since when?

So what about China? Russia? I wonder what would happen if China suddenly decided to stop lending the Americans money.

Oh and incidentally, if you are the 'sole super power' and world's cops why haven't you gone in to introduce 'democracy' and 'freedom' to China?

It was Margaret Thatcher who started the conflict in Iraq.

You see, it's kind of funny how a shortage of oil and resources can suddenly arouse interests in such things as the Taliban, terrorism, the Middle East, and so on.

How come America wasn't interested in terrorism in Ulster? How come America wasn't that bothered about terrorism when a Pan Am flight headed for New York blew up over Lockerbie in South West Scotland in 1988 apparently as a result of Islamic terrorists and a bomb being on board? How come Washington did become interested in terrorism until 9/11 when by sheer coincidence three civil aircraft managed to fly unchecked through US airspace and fly into the Pentagon and also the World Trade Center in.. surprise surprise.. New York?

The sheer numbers of people asking for help? Why not 'in American interests'?

Might not the Lend Lease program in the 1940's to help Britain in the Second World War have been inspired by the Depression in the 1930's with a view to establishing markets for US business in Europe?

And like, the Americans have never got anything out of all this 'help'? And like, American corporate interests from really big multinational corporations, banks and financiers like Norman Greenspan and others isn't taken into account?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 9:11:16 PM   
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Nancy Pelosi has been a very active critic of China for more than 10 years. She was one of the leading voices against giving China most favored nation status back in the mid 90's.


Well.... Given the make up of her district and the donations of many of her backers, she has to be doesn't she?

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RE: Congrats to the Speaker of the House! - 3/22/2008 9:13:13 PM   
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I wonder what would happen if China suddenly decided to stop lending the Americans money.




      We'd quit buying their crap merchandise, hurting their economy worse than ours.  We might have to raise the prices on all the food the rest of ya'll eat of course.

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