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RE: Love is a losing Game ? - 3/12/2008 5:09:58 PM

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Organised religion and pop music notions of love - two of the greatest plagues to trouble humanity.

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RE: Love is a losing Game ? - 3/12/2008 5:14:40 PM

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P.S. pahunkboy, I also love how Mick Fleetwood plays the drums in the vid like the exstatic, mad drummer he is. Also, imo, an underrated musician.

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RE: Love is a losing Game ? - 3/12/2008 5:19:40 PM

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Organised religion and pop music notions of love - two of the greatest plagues to trouble humanity.

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Notions of love and real love are two different things, aren't they ? That's kind of the point to this thread, imo. And music is just music. Either one likes it, whatever the genre or piece, or not.

Btw, that's a great zen saying, Z.. Thanks for reminding me.

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RE: Love is a losing Game ? - 3/12/2008 5:41:59 PM

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So you wanna be a guitar, sometimes ?

You're welcome.

Feeling music has always been a gift; I have made up little songs on my own guitar, “George”; and can manage a few on a keyboard, but this particular song gives me an urge to scream out to the guitarist, to the left of the lead singer; “Oh yes, Daddy; I was a BAD guitar. Pleeeese, play me harder!!!”

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I’m ok now.

while it is true; distance makes the heart grow fonder, it has other affects too.

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I bet you would be nice to strum and pick.

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RE: Love is a losing Game ? - 3/13/2008 12:33:23 AM

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I think listening to anything Winehouse does is a sign of insanity.

You have a point, but a good hat will cover it.

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RE: Love is a losing Game ? - 3/13/2008 12:48:35 AM

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Love is risk, and sometimes, we "win" , and sometimes we "lose".

I do not see love in this manner. To me, love is unconditional; a gift. The joy of which, derives from the act of giving.

For me to say that I lost at love; would be to ignore any value derived from the relationship. It has been my experience; there is always something to learn, which for me; has immeasurable value.

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k, unconditional love is the ideal, and while some people are capable of it, it's quite rare. Usually, people "fall in love". I think that's why they call it falling. It's often, though not always based on illusion and, perhaps, need of some kind.

That's what I am really wondering about.

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RE: Love is a losing Game ? - 3/13/2008 7:32:17 AM

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k, unconditional love is the ideal, and while some people are capable of it, it's quite rare.

Perhaps not as rare as one might think, only mislabeled.

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Usually, people "fall in love". I think that's why they call it falling.

Actually, I think people “fall in lust”, confuse it for love, and then get angry when the other person did not live up to their dream.

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It's often, though not always based on illusion and, perhaps, need of some kind.

This statement is a major clue that it is not love. Love is sincere; if a person builds a relationship on an illusion, they are not being sincere to themselves, or the other person.

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That's what I am really wondering about.

I am still testing the solidity of the definition I put together for what love is, but so far, I am having a tough time disproving it.

I am a little perplexed however, as I have used a very similar definition for another popular idea, and the thought that the two could actually mean the same thing, is well… freaky.

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