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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 9:20:56 AM

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If you want to find out what it means you can search for it on the top right hand corner, start a thread like some people have, or you can read my answer below
What It Is That We Do... and it has been used around here since before I logged into CM, and yes it is made up, although it is in dispute as to who made it up....

So to rephrase it slightly...

Is what it is that we do making up abbreviations, you'd think so sometimes?

If you are trying to be snarky because I used an abbreviation that I tend to like as a turn of phrase, Go You!

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 9:24:39 AM

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 9:27:03 AM

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Don't take life so personally, it's not all about you.

It is not personal for me, good luck with your insulting act... you are no Don Rickles yet

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 9:27:30 AM

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I apologize for not addressing everyone who answered the post. Just going to the nuts and bolts of things. I did happen to find it interesting what types of responses came from folks with different levels of post counts from the boards.

Coloureding, I'm glad you enjoyed the rant. Btw, I caught a glimpse of your pic yesterday. If you don't mind My saying so, you're rather pretty.

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Don't we have a FAQ thread also? I seem to recall something like that on my Welcome to Collarme email...

A frequently asked question thread was bouncing around a while back. I looked for it in the search function and it's still able to be pulled up.

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LadyPact, my hometown hero. Tell the newbies we don't take any 20 questions crap around this town. Of course if a beautiful newbie submissive has a question or two, I will mentor her.

And yet, still haven't met. Wind is ghastly here today, isn't it?

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I typed in "Topping from the Bottom" on Google.

I came up with four entries:

The second was a link to "Definition-of.com", which gave a 7 word description: To control the scene from the bottom.

In the event of looking for a definition, wouldn't this be the most logical choice?

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lol, I guess some people don't really want to go to the trouble of looking on Google,(or any other engine for that matter.) Though that amuses me because they would get the answears alot quicker, then here on the message boards.

*snickers*

Yep.

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This rant is not really helpful.
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Like most rants, it wasn't intended to be helpful. Unless there is a slight possibility that the trend comes from those who haven't a clue that they lack initiative.

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Is it really that difficult to just click the X and move on?

Yano, 'elders' like you that make me glad I am not a newbie just entering into all of this.

Is it really so difficult to type the same word into google? Heck, you don't even have to put it in the form of a quesiton there.

Exactly how does one become an 'elder'? If it has anything to do with not being spoon fed information or not being carried through the lifestyle, I'll take it as a compliment.

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If you don't want to answer a newbie's questions, then don't. Some of us don't mind answering it.

Besides to use tftb for example, a straightforward definition of the bottoming attempting to dictate play, doesn't allow for any emotional nuances. It doesn't mention that some tops like that kind of feedback and others go apeshit. It doesn't mention the interplay wherein an s type could ask for something knowing that the asking allows the top to chuckle evilly and do something else, and that the s type might well only pretend to tftb to give the top that moment of laughter and herself the thrill of hearing it.

None of this stuff is that simple. Because it's being done by people and people are not simple.

Celeste, I attribute that to the fact that you are abundantly more patient than Me.

From the emotional standpoint of a definition, I still do not think that matters much. The term tftb, for example, might hold a much more negatively impacted reaction for you than it does for Me. By extension, it's probably going to hold a different emotional reaction to someone else, including someone who doesn't know what it means at all. Therefore, they are much less likely to have any reaction to it, other than a definition provided. They will certainly obtain an emotional reaction to it only from experience.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 9:29:25 AM

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It is not personal for me, good luck with your insulting act... you are no Don Rickles yet

Well that is a bit self contradictory but never mind.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 9:31:56 AM

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Google really is your friend.

That depends upon what you're searching for, particularly for people in places like China.

Regarding those who ask the most banal questions, the point of your post is well taken. With that said, much of the material appearing high on the list of information search and storage sites like Google offer popular wisdom on the subject. There is only so much one can glean from a book, scattered quotes in web archives, or on someone's blog. The appeal of a message board is having the ability to tap into the collective consciousness of active enthusiasts in the now.

We should likewise consider why some questions which seem simple and redundant are repeatedly asked, rather than blowing them off as been there, done that—read what was said on the matter last month. I feel the answers are always evolving and refining themselves. One by one, misconceptions, stereotypes, assumed wisdoms and so on are chipped away around certain subjects. Sometimes these discussions are nothing more than redundant, but that's the price we all pay for staying on a message board too long; it takes little effort to skip past the dead horses to find living ones.

P.s. Edited to add: I must confess nearly all possible subjects here are dead horses to me, but the conversations can still be morbidly interesting.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 9:42:49 AM

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Sometimes, it pays to lurk and learn.

Ditto. Big time ditto.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 9:53:03 AM

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Is it really so difficult to type the same word into Google?

The point is that these folks aren't picking the lock on your front door, letting themselves in your home and plopping down on your couch refusing to leave until you tell them what topping from the bottom is.

You mentioned two minutes of googling. Do you know how long it takes me to click on a thread, scan the OP and decide that it doesn't interest or concern me and click the X and move on? Maybe ten seconds.

I can log into Collar Me, login to the forums, check all the forum groups I usually read, see that there was nothing of interest to me and close everything and log out of the site completely in less time than it probably took you to craft that opus about how you just cannot be bothered.

The irony of it all is that in another thread you started you commented about how accessible you are. As another response stated... it's not all about you.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 10:03:30 AM

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Celeste, I attribute that to the fact that you are abundantly more patient than Me.
From the emotional standpoint of a definition, I still do not think that matters much. The term tftb, for example, might hold a much more negatively impacted reaction for you than it does for Me. By extension, it's probably going to hold a different emotional reaction to someone else, including someone who doesn't know what it means at all. Therefore, they are much less likely to have any reaction to it, other than a definition provided. They will certainly obtain an emotional reaction to it only from experience.

You don't think it's helpful to know in advance that different people have different reactions so you can better find out if the way they react is more suited to you? Asking people how they reacted in specific circumstances is one of the ways I test compatibility.

Just because they haven't done it, doesn't mean they can't make a good guess as to how they will feel. This is my first bdsm relationship, but it isn't my first relationship. I already knew who I was and the sort of things I liked, and I extrapolated from there. Judging by the fact that I only agreed to meet one man, and I've been with him now almost five years, I have to assume I acted correctly in how I chose to go about it.

And to be blunt LadyPact, if you aren't feeling patient then you shouldn't come on the boards. Days when I'm short tempered are days when I might be nasty because it's so easy to be like that online. I deal with it by not putting myself in a position where I can act in a manner that I will later regret. I read and don't post at all until I'm sure I'm under control.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 10:05:24 AM

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Is it really so difficult to type the same word into Google?

The point is that these folks aren't picking the lock on your front door, letting themselves in your home and plopping down on your couch refusing to leave until you tell them what topping from the bottom is.

You mentioned two minutes of googling. Do you know how long it takes me to click on a thread, scan the OP and decide that it doesn't interest or concern me and click the X and move on? Maybe ten seconds.

I can log into Collar Me, login to the forums, check all the forum groups I usually read, see that there was nothing of interest to me and close everything and log out of the site completely in less time than it probably took you to craft that opus about how you just cannot be bothered.

The irony of it all is that in another thread you started you commented about how accessible you are. As another response stated... it's not all about you.

Slight correction. I said approachable, not accessible.

In other words, if someone asks Me a question at a lifestyle event, I'll be happy to answer it. The difference? They got off of their back end and did something.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/8/2008 10:07:08 AM

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Are there a limited number of threads available for use at any one time here on CM? Is that why people get bent out of shape when a newbie asks a question that has been asked a million times before? Because that question is taking up thread space that could have been used for a much more important discussion?

As I've said before [grin], you may have answered the question a million times already, but this is probably the first time that person has asked it. And if that newbie get snarky and sarcastic responses, do you think they are going to feel welcome here? OTOH, if they get helpful and well-considered responses (and I don't mean just, "Use the search function and stop bothering us with questions that have already been answered,"), then you get a dialogue going, and everybody might just learn something. At the very least, we all get a little peek at how other people's minds work.

If you think a new thread is raking over old ground, JUST IGNORE IT. It isn't doing you any harm, and the answers the newbie gets just may bring some new insights to even seasoned BDSMers.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/9/2008 8:05:36 AM

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ffs

What does ffs mean?

I thought it meant for fuck's sake.

Ummm yeah, I knew that. Thus the

. Collarme doesn't have a sarcasm smiley.
Oh nevermind. It doesn't have any effect if one has to explain that.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/9/2008 8:20:47 AM

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I have this problem too Aileen; now a few people really do think I burn money in front of homeless people for personal amusement.

Even though someone setting fire to money in the street isn't a realistic proposition, they won't have it.

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RE: Google really IS your friend - 3/9/2008 10:10:20 AM

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I typed in "Topping from the Bottom" on Google.

I came up with four entries:

The second was a link to "Definition-of.com", which gave a 7 word description: To control the scene from the bottom.

In the event of looking for a definition, wouldn't this be the most logical choice?

If I knew little to nothing about BDSM and did not have the luxury of asking the opinions of hundreds of people who have gone before me, how would I know this was the most logical choice? Particularly if I had to sort through personal blogs and essays to find it.

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