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So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 12:44:59 PM   
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So i met this Man online... on a regular personals dating site.  It became apparent that He had an alternative agenda to getting to know me, and it excited me...well it still does.  i have always been a "good girl" but totally opposite to the sense of the term that i am exploring now.  So now i have this rush of emotion and a desire to be taught, but honestly don't have a clue what i'm doing or what will be expected of me.  i have managed to gather a little information here on this site, which He directed me to.  We have only had one encounter, but will possibly enjoy a 24 hr period together next weekend.  In terms of learning, do you think i'm getting involved with the wrong person?  i read on this board that a collar should not be taken lightly or flippantly and he has already placed a play one around my neck during our first session.  Does this mean that He is extremely interested in keeping me around for a while, or that he probably does this to a few people on a regular basis.  i really don't like to share my Man, and feel intuitively that i can't trust him.

He is an exciting character, and treated me with care during our first session.  Another drawback is that i have a child and therefore can't dedicate myself as much as i would like... perhaps this will affect his dedication to me.  This Man is going through a divorce, as am i, and doesn't want to get to know or appreciate my essence first which kind of hurts me in a way, its just about the sex.  i too need it, and would very much like to please Him, but would also like to be cared for.  i know that this is probably stupid to be getting myself involved in something i know nothing about, but i find it tantalizing and a discovery of myself that i'd like to pursue... i'm just not sure that this character that i seem to have involved myself with is right for my needs....  perhaps i'm not right for this lifestyle because i definitely do have needs and desires too.  He did ask me what my greatest fantasy was and that He would like to make it come true, and so i suppose he might be caring for my desires.

i also need to be contacted more often, just to know that He cares about how my day has been, and of course i don't get that sort of attention.  Is this a usual phenomenon in this lifestyle or again, am i just getting involved with the wrong sort of Dom?  Fom what i can see he's doing everything by the book, giving me code phrases and assigning numbers to my boundaries, but i just know so little about him that it's scaring me a little, but then increasing / heightening my desire to be with Him.... 

i would really appreciate any input... i am naive, but would like to be taught.
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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 12:48:28 PM   
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First, a play collar is a play collar.

Second, for your questions about "what does this mean, does he have others" you will have to ask him. If you don't, you're setting yourself up.

Is he the right Dom for you? Don't know. Have you expressed your desires to him? Your need for more contact? If so, is he willing to do things differently? If not, can you really live with it (or without it)?

This is no different than vanilla dating. Subs are allowed to have needs and opinions.

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 12:48:46 PM   
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No one here can truly know if he's "right" for you or not, we don't know him.
 
Collars.... they mean a great deal to some, they mean nothing to others; neither is "right", except for themselves.
 
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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 12:50:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Moniker

So i met this Man online... on a regular personals dating site.  It became apparent that He had an alternative agenda to getting to know me, and it excited me...well it still does.  i have always been a "good girl" but totally opposite to the sense of the term that i am exploring now.  So now i have this rush of emotion and a desire to be taught, but honestly don't have a clue what i'm doing or what will be expected of me.  i have managed to gather a little information here on this site, which He directed me to.  We have only had one encounter, but will possibly enjoy a 24 hr period together next weekend.  In terms of learning, do you think i'm getting involved with the wrong person?  i read on this board that a collar should not be taken lightly or flippantly and he has already placed a play one around my neck during our first session.  Does this mean that He is extremely interested in keeping me around for a while, or that he probably does this to a few people on a regular basis.  i really don't like to share my Man, and feel intuitively that i can't trust him.

He is an exciting character, and treated me with care during our first session.  Another drawback is that i have a child and therefore can't dedicate myself as much as i would like... perhaps this will affect his dedication to me.  This Man is going through a divorce, as am i, and doesn't want to get to know or appreciate my essence first which kind of hurts me in a way, its just about the sex.  i too need it, and would very much like to please Him, but would also like to be cared for.  i know that this is probably stupid to be getting myself involved in something i know nothing about, but i find it tantalizing and a discovery of myself that i'd like to pursue... i'm just not sure that this character that i seem to have involved myself with is right for my needs....  perhaps i'm not right for this lifestyle because i definitely do have needs and desires too.  He did ask me what my greatest fantasy was and that He would like to make it come true, and so i suppose he might be caring for my desires.

i also need to be contacted more often, just to know that He cares about how my day has been, and of course i don't get that sort of attention.  Is this a usual phenomenon in this lifestyle or again, am i just getting involved with the wrong sort of Dom?  Fom what i can see he's doing everything by the book, giving me code phrases and assigning numbers to my boundaries, but i just know so little about him that it's scaring me a little, but then increasing / heightening my desire to be with Him.... 

i would really appreciate any input... i am naive, but would like to be taught.

You say:
~Fom what i can see he's doing everything by the book, giving me code phrases and assigning numbers to my boundaries, ~
I'm sorry but this worries me as i don't understand what that means.....



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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 12:52:53 PM   
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You dont want to share your man and you said that intuitively you know you "cant trust him?" So you realize this is just sex for him and so you ok with that? You know you cant trust him, you ok with that? You dont want to share but you will probably be sharing, you ok with that?????

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 12:54:48 PM   
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No one here can truly know if he's "right" for you or not...


... Until you post several nude pictures, as he has hopefully explained to you.

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 12:55:02 PM   
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Seems like you have dove off a high cliff but never checked if there was water let alone how deep the water was .Now your falling toward the unknown, asking if you did the right thing .Many of these questions  should have been asked before you got involved .Though i shall pose one back to you , why are you in this ?- Is bdsm a part of who you are internally or is this more a fantasy being  brought to light ?

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 1:01:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Level

No one here can truly know if he's "right" for you or not...


... Until you post several nude pictures, as he has hopefully explained to you.



LOL...... yes, that is in the handbook, isn't it?

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 1:12:55 PM   
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I guess i need the updated  handbook 

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 1:37:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: azropedntied
Though i shall pose one back to you , why are you in this ?- Is bdsm a part of who you are internally or is this more a fantasy being  brought to light ?


i have always wanted to please a Man in every way, and have always put my needs last in a relationship, but for now i'm honestly not sure if this is just a fantasy world that i have a need right now to be a part of or if i will enjoy what i'm taught and pursue the lifestyle. 

quote:

ORIGINAL:
You dont want to share your man and you said that intuitively you know you "cant trust him?" So you realize this is just sex for him and so you ok with that? You know you cant trust him, you ok with that? You dont want to share but you will probably be sharing, you ok with that?????


i know it sounds like i'm a fruitcake, but in my defense, i am enjoying the thrill.  my marriage was tough one, and one in which i am glad to have escaped from.  Perhaps He iswhat i need to discover inhibition, acceptance of myself, the wildest sex i have ever had the pleasure of experiencing, with the possibility that after He gets to spend time with me He may realize that i am too what He needs - not only sexually, but intellectually too.  No, i would like to be His sole sexual partner, and have already specified this to Him, but inherently i don't feel that He was sincere when He acknowledged this.

Batshalom, He is not willing to do things differently.  He says that He is willing to teach me, "own me" - whatever that means if He is not as dedicated as i would like him to be - , and direct me, and that that is all He is capable of currently.  i do understand that my need to be cared for is not synonomous with his capabilities right now.... i have been getting divorced for a year now and He has been divorcing for 2 months now.  So with it all being very new to Him, I'm sure he's not in a headspace right now to devote more of himself.  i think I'm fine with that for the minute anyway.

Paulsgirl, i'm not sure if this is usual yet in BDSM, but He has assigned numbers for when i'm gagged, so that i can alert him to the level of my tolerance.  Code phrases work the same as numbers do for when i am free to talk. 

Noah, i can only be naked for one person.

So, i'm not sure quintessentially if this is right for me, but would like to see if this fantasy might become my reality.

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 1:44:40 PM   
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quote:

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i have always wanted to please a Man in every way, and have always put my needs last in a relationship, but for now i'm honestly not sure if this is just a fantasy world that i have a need right now to be a part of or if i will enjoy what i'm taught and pursue the lifestyle. 


Only one way to find out.

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Paulsgirl, i'm not sure if this is usual yet in BDSM, but He has assigned numbers for when i'm gagged, so that i can alert him to the level of my tolerance.  Code phrases work the same as numbers do for when i am free to talk. 


Do you stomp your foot 3 times, or blink twice? Just kidding, kind of.

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 i can only be naked for one person.


Party pooper.

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So, i'm not sure quintessentially if this is right for me, but would like to see if this fantasy might become my reality.


Kidding aside, there is nothing wrong with trying to find your place in the world.



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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 1:44:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Moniker

So i met this Man online... on a regular personals dating site.  It became apparent that He had an alternative agenda to getting to know me, and it excited me...well it still does.  i have always been a "good girl" but totally opposite to the sense of the term that i am exploring now.  So now i have this rush of emotion and a desire to be taught, but honestly don't have a clue what i'm doing or what will be expected of me.  i have managed to gather a little information here on this site, which He directed me to.  We have only had one encounter, but will possibly enjoy a 24 hr period together next weekend.  In terms of learning, do you think i'm getting involved with the wrong person? 


If you have to ask, the answer is probably yes.

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 i read on this board that a collar should not be taken lightly or flippantly and he has already placed a play one around my neck during our first session.  Does this mean that He is extremely interested in keeping me around for a while, or that he probably does this to a few people on a regular basis. 


Lots of people use play collars.  I wouldn't take that as a sign that he means business.  In fact, lots of people put real collars on people, and it still doesn't necessarily mean that they have your best interest in mind or that they feel comitted to you.  You said yourself, you feel like he has an "agenda".  The only collar you need to concern yourself with is that invisible one that sneaks up on you and locks itself around your heart when you're not looking. 

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and feel intuitively that i can't trust him.


What more do you need?  Your body is talking to you.  That's a gift that you shouldn't thumb your nose at.

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He is an exciting character, and treated me with care during our first session. 


Ok, so he isn't going to injure you physically.  Is that really enough?

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Another drawback is that i have a child and therefore can't dedicate myself as much as i would like... perhaps this will affect his dedication to me. 


If he's not willing to accomodate that, then he should tell you that upfront so that you can make an informed decision. Why not ask him how he feels about that?

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This Man is going through a divorce, as am i, and doesn't want to get to know or appreciate my essence first which kind of hurts me in a way, its just about the sex.  i too need it, and would very much like to please Him, but would also like to be cared for.


Ok, he just wants sex and you want more.  Do you think that's going to change?  Either except the relationship with it's limitations, or look for someone who wants to care for you and not just fuck you.


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  i know that this is probably stupid to be getting myself involved in something i know nothing about, but i find it tantalizing and a discovery of myself that i'd like to pursue... i'm just not sure that this character that i seem to have involved myself with is right for my needs.... 


Of course you're sure.  Just read your own words.

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 perhaps i'm not right for this lifestyle because i definitely do have needs and desires too. 


Everyone has needs, that doesn't mean you're not right for this 'lifestyle'.  This 'lifestyle' encompasses so many various type of relationships. You just have to find someone who's looking for the same thing you are.  Don't let this guy ( or your relationship with him ) define what this lifestyle is about for YOU.

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He did ask me what my greatest fantasy was and that He would like to make it come true, and so i suppose he might be caring for my desires.


Um...no. This is simply in indication that he wants to help you enjoy a sexual fantasy.  I personally wouldn't read more into it than that.

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i also need to be contacted more often, just to know that He cares about how my day has been, and of course i don't get that sort of attention
Is this a usual phenomenon in this lifestyle or again, am i just getting involved with the wrong sort of Dom?  .


It's usual in any lifestyle to meet men like this.  If it's not acceptable to you, then it's not acceptable to you.  There's no cut and dried rule book that says you should settle for less than what you want because the relationship involves some level of bdsm.


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but i just know so little about him that it's scaring me a little, but then increasing / heightening my desire to be with Him.... 


I hear ya.  But when you get involved with people like this becuase it thrills you, you gotta understand that you could end up hurt in the long-run.  And only you can decide whether the pleasure you're feeling now, is going to be worth the pain that's going to come later on.  Unless you can do this and enjoy the "play" without becoming emotionally invested, it sounds like a train wreck just waiting to happen.



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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 1:46:40 PM   
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The only collar you need to concern yourself with is that invisible one that sneaks up on you and locks itself around your heart when you're not looking. 



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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 1:57:23 PM   
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I hate being the voice of reason... so I won't  Don't read to much into one fuck session.

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 2:03:43 PM   
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I do alot of armchair psychology for a friend of mine, and I have a few questions:  Is this new man so totally unlike your ex that you are drawn to him, or is he too much like the person you thought you soon to be ex could be?  Have you had time to be alone and sort yourself out?

I can't say he sounds like a man you should avoid, I just think that jumping into new expereinces when you might not be over past experiences may cause you an emotional overload.

I can remember to the day that I started transitioning from a normal, run of the mill woman to the person I am today.  My boyfriend of the time had just left my house and I realized that I felt empty, he gave me everything in him and it just wasn't what I needed.  So I broke up with him and did some long hard soul searching, basically looking for my common denominator deal breaker in all past relationships.  The sex-need was easy to pinpoint (and it was caused me to wrote my mind, body, soul blog which I've rejuvinated on my journal here)  basic sex just didn't engage me fully.  So I started playing with people, who happened to be emotionally unavailable and then had to take some more time off to evaluate why that wasn't making me happy.

OK--sorry to make it all about me--- to sumerize, I do think that you have to know yourself to know what makes you happy, I also know that there will be failed experiments along the way while you are still searching for clues to identify youself.

Good luck, have fun, enjoy the ride and keep arms and legs inside the car at all times.

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 2:30:33 PM   
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Sounds like he got a nice fu*k and you got to experience some passion.  Why not just accept that for what it is? 
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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 2:35:08 PM   
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Reality:  he's going through a divorce and isn't going to be emotionally available for anything except sex and play for a reeeeeeally long time.  If that's okay with you, great, have fun.

The bigger reality is that when he's ready emotionally for an attachment of some kind, the odds are very much against it being with you.  You're the "transitional girl", and when he decides to make a fresh start, it will be completely fresh, with someone fresh and new. 

There's always the possibility that he and the wife will reconcile.  Another possibility is that he's not really getting divorced, he's just telling you he is so he can have a little fun on the side.

In a nutshell, I wouldn't make ANY emotional attachments with this guy, just enjoy the fun you're having, and don't secretly hope for any kind of future with him.  If you do, you could be in for years of misery.  You are very correct when you call him a "character"....you only know the side you see here and at play.  You haven't lived with him and seen what he's like in everyday life. 

We have a little saying around here, about not making someone a priority who only sees you as an option.  If he "doesn't care about appreciating your essence" first, and it's only about sex, then you're just an option, a diversion for him.  Keep him as an option, but keep looking for your priority.

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 2:37:10 PM   
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First of all.... a play collar is often a bondage device or sometimes called a 'posture collar' and has nothing whatsoever to do with being collared as in a relationship.  i know its confusing because people tend to talk about collars as in the latter and hardly ever about the former.  A posture collar is a safe way to restrain the neck and head without the dangerous pressure points that rope would have.  Please do not confuse this with any kind of sign or symbol that the man has any feelings for you other than friendship and lust.  Or maybe just lust.

Second, he's going through a divorce.  Be real, please.  Most guys going through a divorce are not immediately seeking yet another committment. 

Third.  If you can't come right out and ask this guy the same questions you are asking here, i wouldn't recommend a 24 hour period together. 

Lastly...Relationships only work when the relationship GOALS are the same.  YOU are looking for a committed, loving, D/s relationship.  If HE is looking for a friendly stress-reliever, it isn't gonna work out for either of you.

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 3:10:59 PM   
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Do any of you really think that she is going to listen to anything being said. She has already talked herself into it.

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RE: So i met this Man.... - 2/23/2008 3:14:29 PM   
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You're probably right. She may have it in her head that if she does everything just right he will turn from frog to prince.

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