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sub4hire -> Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 9:36:34 AM)

      
What do you know about them?  Ours died the other night so I've been trying to find a suitable replacement.
They have soft serve ones out there now.  My biggest question I guess is.
Do all of them still require rock salt to freeze the ice cream or do they have new ones that work all on their own?
When you look at them...none are specific..so no idea if there is a brand out there that doesn't require the salt.

Anyway, in this town shopping is limited so it will end up being a net purchase.
Old style or new style? 




DomKen -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 10:49:35 AM)

I've got one of the new ones that sits on my counter and doesn't need rock salt. It only makes a pint at a time so it may not fit your need if you have um's. Of course since there is no rock salt the refrigeration/freezing is all done by the machine, IOW it draws current so a big capacity one would likely by pricey to operate, or  by putting the removable insert in the freezer once it is soft serve consistency.

However if you only need a pint or a quart at a time the new machines are quiet and pretty quick to get the mix to soft serve.




SugarMyChurro -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 12:38:18 PM)

Donvier. Has freezer sleeve and a hand crank. Makes soft ice cream in 20 minutes or so. Harder ice cream would have to be in the freezer for a bit. Makes nice slushee drinks too.




Wildfleurs -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 1:14:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sub4hire

     
What do you know about them?  Ours died the other night so I've been trying to find a suitable replacement.
They have soft serve ones out there now.  My biggest question I guess is.
Do all of them still require rock salt to freeze the ice cream or do they have new ones that work all on their own?
When you look at them...none are specific..so no idea if there is a brand out there that doesn't require the salt.

Anyway, in this town shopping is limited so it will end up being a net purchase.
Old style or new style? 




This is the ice cream maker I have:

http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-ICE-20-2-Quart-Automatic-Frozen/dp/B00000JGRT/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1203369169&sr=8-2

It just entails freezing the actual container that the ice cream is made in and then just running it for about a half an hour (I just plug it in and it goes).   It comes with two containers that I can make ice cream in and since I have an extra freezer I just put both into the freezer in the summer so its already ready to go when I want ice cream.

C~




sub4hire -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 1:48:35 PM)

DomKen, what brand do you have?  I was looking at Cuisinarts.  I saw one where you could add...whatever to it while it was churning...that was a nice idea.
We don't need a big maker...the one that just died made about a quart at a time.

Just want to update before we buy...no rock salt sounds real nice.






DomKen -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 3:38:02 PM)

Looking it up I found it was a 1.5 quart machine but here it is:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000B2U17E?smid=A3SPLR0MSOYZ8O&tag=dealtime-kitchen-20&linkCode=asn

I will say that if freezing the bowls isn't a problem for you I'd actually recommend the ones where you do that. I hadn't seen anything like that before and the cuisinart Wildfluers is talking about looks like a better choice to me and is substantially less than what mine cost.




Griswold -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 5:21:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire

     
What do you know about them?  Ours died the other night so I've been trying to find a suitable replacement.
They have soft serve ones out there now.  My biggest question I guess is.
Do all of them still require rock salt to freeze the ice cream or do they have new ones that work all on their own?
When you look at them...none are specific..so no idea if there is a brand out there that doesn't require the salt.

Anyway, in this town shopping is limited so it will end up being a net purchase.
Old style or new style? 



Dairy Queen makes a truly FABULOUS ice cream maker, it doesn't require rock salt at all....and it only costs $1.39.

(And all you have to do to make it work is say into the speaker..."Ice Cream").




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 5:25:23 PM)

I have the Cuisinart one as well - for $45 or so, it's probably the best one you can get (IMHO) without going to a $300 + built-in-compressor model.  The only thing I will say is that you need to spread out the process over 2 days.  The bowl really needs to freeze for about 12 hours, and the ice cream base needs to chill for a good long while.   But compared to not having the hassle of dealing with ice and rock salt?  No problem.

If you have a KitchenAid stand mixer, they do have a similar set up, with the freezer bowl that you pre-freeze and a paddle attachment.  I'm not sure how much that is off the top of my head, but it appears to be the same concept as the Cuisinart.

I'd also suggest getting "The Ultimate Ice Cream Book" by Bruce Weinstein.   The recipes are great and the right size to run through the Cuisinart ice cream maker.




farglebargle -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 7:02:58 PM)

http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=425&itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&keyword=64320&KickerID=163&KICKER




thompsonx -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/18/2008 11:11:03 PM)

FR
I have a Champion juicer.  It makes great ice cream.
thompson




sub4hire -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/19/2008 6:59:08 AM)

Thanks everyone for your input..this is the one I ordered this morning.

http://www.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=4831&PartnerID=FROOGLE&BannerID=PD677

I couldn't find it on amazon.




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/19/2008 7:48:24 AM)

I think you'll be pleased with that one.   I don't make ice cream enough to justify getting one with a built-in compressor (but I am eyeing up a $400 chocolate tempering machine designed for home use). 




Marc2b -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/19/2008 8:10:41 AM)

Just do what I do - go to the grocery store and buy some Ben & Jerry's.




sub4hire -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/19/2008 9:37:01 AM)



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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

Just do what I do - go to the grocery store and buy some Ben & Jerry's.


Ben and Jerrys is super premium ice cream.  Which means it has the highest butter fat in ice cream.
When you make your own you can modify the ingredients.  Make any type you want and it tastes better.
Sort of the same as making your own home baked bread...there is nothing comparable.





Marc2b -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/19/2008 1:33:08 PM)

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Ben and Jerrys is super premium ice cream. Which means it has the highest butter fat in ice cream. When you make your own you can modify the ingredients. Make any type you want and it tastes better. Sort of the same as making your own home baked bread...there is nothing comparable.


Relax, I’m just giving you a little rib poking. I grew up half hick so you don’t have to tell me about the superiority of homemade anything. However, I will say that the high butterfat content of Ben and Jerry’s is what makes it so gooooooooooood (nobody said that decadence was not without it’s price).




lighthearted -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/19/2008 5:06:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

If you have a KitchenAid stand mixer, they do have a similar set up, with the freezer bowl that you pre-freeze and a paddle attachment.  I'm not sure how much that is off the top of my head, but it appears to be the same concept as the Cuisinart.



they run about $70 now, I think...they are like the donvier, freeze the unit first, but then the mixer does the cranking for you.

I had my donvier for about 20 years, I finally gave it up because the crank assembly, made of plastic, went kaput.  for the money, they work great. 




sub4hire -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/20/2008 6:46:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b
I will say that the high butterfat content of Ben and Jerry’s is what makes it so gooooooooooood (nobody said that decadence was not without it’s price).


Why is Ben and Jerrys good?  Is it the butterfat content or is it the ingredients they add to it.  The fruit, candy and nuts?  Among other things. 
There are a lot of high butterfat content creams out there.  Not all are good.  Look at Breyers and Dreyers aka Eddy's in the East.  They have high butterfat content..and are good.  But they are not great. 
Anyway, I've been on somewhat of a tofu kick lately...so I want to add some to some ice cream and see what it tastes like.  I imagine it will take on the taste of the strawberry or whatever I put in since tofu seems to resemble nothing. 
Anyway that was why I needed th extra door on the top so I can add extra's and plenty of them.





Marc2b -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/20/2008 9:18:43 AM)

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Why is Ben and Jerrys good? Is it the butterfat content or is it the ingredients they add to it. The fruit, candy and nuts? Among other things.
There are a lot of high butterfat content creams out there. Not all are good. Look at Breyers and Dreyers aka Eddy's in the East. They have high butterfat content..and are good. But they are not great.
Anyway, I've been on somewhat of a tofu kick lately...so I want to add some to some ice cream and see what it tastes like. I imagine it will take on the taste of the strawberry or whatever I put in since tofu seems to resemble nothing.
Anyway that was why I needed th extra door on the top so I can add extra's and plenty of them.


Actually, I think it has to do with how long they churn it – or so I heard somewhere.

Tofu in ice cream? My initial reaction is ewwwwwwwww. But, then again, some people like liver an onions and some don’t. Ultimately, our taste buds are the only judges that count. Enjoy.




MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/20/2008 10:04:49 AM)

Correct - there's less air churned into premium ice cream, resulting in a denser product. You can mimic that in home made ice cream by filling the freezer bowl as much as possible - less air will get churned into it.

(and of course the extra fat helps with that, which comes from both using egg yolks, whole milk and heavy cream in the ice cream base).




sub4hire -> RE: Ice Cream Makers? (2/20/2008 11:57:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Marc2b
Tofu in ice cream? My initial reaction is ewwwwwwwww. But, then again, some people like liver an onions and some don’t. Ultimately, our taste buds are the only judges that count. Enjoy.


No idea if I will like it or not but it's on my list of things to try.  I may very well hate it.  In any event once the machine arrives I can test out all different types of ingredients.  With the old machine I couldn't do that.




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