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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 9:26:03 PM   
SailingBum


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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

No. I have a dishwasher that I own that works for me, I keep and use, but I don't love it.


Dishwashers have feelings....

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 12:40:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I neither asked nor expected him to love me.  That he eventually came to was very sweet icing on a very rich cake.

So to answer the OP, No.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 1:48:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		People often use the word "love" because they forget about the more useful words like "affection" and "fondness."   But even then it's not a must that a Master have any emotion whatsoever with His/Her slave in order to have ownership.  In fact, there are no 'must have' other than control and obedience, in my opinion.

It depends on the kind of relationship two or more people want.  Relationships work when there are common relationship goals.  If one has the goal to be married and the other wants affectionate friendship, the relationship will not work in the long run. 

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 2:41:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		With out deeper feelings...I don't like to own the girl..for me it just feels weird then.
(and I also own a dishwasher)

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 3:33:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		In a word no  I rent my dishwasher with a option to lease and I LOVE IT !!

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 3:49:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		As a sadist I find that while I can pursue my interests with anyone, it is a great deal more satisfying to hurt those you love.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 4:25:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the point has been well made that there are infinite combinations in infinite wonder.  I think it should not go unsaid that even in Marriage, love is not a requirement - though that may offend the sensibilities of the more romantically inclined among us. Ultimately, I think that the most successful and fullfilling longterm M/s relationships involve the development of appreciation, affection, and even love.

I do not think that love of the slave is required for ownership.  I do not think that a slave cannot be well-mastered in the absence of love.  But anyone who has enjoyed the mastery of another for any length of time who professed to feel nothing for their slave would be suspect in my opinion... and would, perhaps, need to be a little more honest with themselves.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 6:53:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Greetings A/all:
Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again, and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
Must a Dom or Domme' "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

Opinions please.....Yours in Kink...MB





Define "love" because there are many many types of love.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 7:02:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Love does not have to be part of the equation; however, it definitely prooves to be a worthwhile adventure.
 
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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 7:32:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?


Yes.  Absolutely. Without a doubt. 

Just to be contrary. 

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 8:00:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree it's much more satisfying to hurt someone I love.
However I may define love in a very different way than others.
Lust is a very big part of romantic love for me.
I can and do care about most people.
But I'm assuming that if I find somone who really rocks my world it will mean so much more. It's not happened yet though.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 8:15:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is all about looking for someone that is compatible with you, it does suck to get involved with someone and learn afterward their views and yours don't mesh, or that your expectations are not the reality.  , but the  extreme opposite of the equation  can also occur  where the Dom/Master falls in love but then finds themselves unable to top you as a result

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 8:19:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo


quote:

ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Greetings A/all:
Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again, and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
Must a Dom or Domme' "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

Opinions please.....Yours in Kink...MB





Define "love" because there are many many types of love.


to me, romantic love is a cumulation(sp) of many emotions, affection, adoration, lust, need, desire, friendship.... it's a catch all word for multiple feelings.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 8:41:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		No but, would it be nice at least in my opinion yes.

i love mine, however the feelings aren't there in return...i guess of all days i had to read this today to add on to the day i've grown to hate the most in the last five years...

~meticulous~

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 5:26:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		No a Master does not need to love his slave although the fact you do has made our journey the most wonderful part...as i know that to serve you either at your side or at your feet is the best that life has to offer, and YES i could serve you as well perhaps but with perhaps not the joy and love that i have because of the love and care, nurturing that is you dear Master. 

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 5:58:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Define love.  If you mean must a dominant feel romantic love for their submissive, then I'd have to say no, romantic love is not required.
BUT

If someone were to come to me with the level of service and obedience that I need, with the depth of play, there would have to be great admiration and respect and a kind of caring.  This would be on both sides of the dynamic.  Then again, I already have a bed mate/playmate, so I'm not looking for someone for just the kink now.  I'm looking for that something deeper that only an M/s commitment would hold.  If you would like to define that type of relationship as love, then so be it.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/14/2008 8:14:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Greetings once again good people: and thank A/all of you that have both viewed and/or responded to my question.
   For me the answer has always been and always will be untill the end of time the same and that is: ....A deep seated love must be in place in both my heart along with that person I am asking to become MY slave OR a slave that is begging for her collar from me. I am indeed a Master that with giving a collar,  said collar is only given or provided with one goal in mind,  and that is, under any and all situations, no matter what happens MY ownership of my slave or submissive is forever, period. And with that, I feel the only way to get through the everyday life of relationships and the problem/challenges each relationship provides,  I find a unbreakable strength in keeping relationships held together only when people love eachother and can find this well grounded feeling at the darkest of times and yet look foraward to tomorrow together.  Indeed the goal is together forever. No..this goal is not a marathon being run but indeed it is a mindset of keeping a loving,caring,sharing family together and HAPPY.  I have found in my few short years on this planet,  a happy slave that knows she is cared for and loved will serve and give more of themseselves then I could ever demand or ask for.
  again, Thank you for looking and shareing your oponion.
  Yours in Kink....MB

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/15/2008 4:55:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll assume that you're talking about romantic love. I know that it's not a requirement for MY relationships to work. In fact, I doubt that I'll ever romantically love a slave (but I'm not stupid enough to say never). However, many people feels it's a "must".

However, I do feel that a certain amount of love must exist in ALL relationshipd for them to last...just not romantic love. I feel the kind that makes me care about them, want to lead them, want to protect them and such. I'm also affectionate.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/15/2008 5:02:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

No. I have a dishwasher that I own that works for me, I keep and use, but I don't love it.

i would marry my dish waher if it could sign the paperwork
ps no i would marry it if it could put a cross on a pre-nup not to break down when the going got heavy


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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/15/2008 7:34:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Greetings A/all:
         Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again,  and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

  Opinions   please.....Yours in Kink...MB



Frankly, I have no opinion what other Dom's or Domme should feel or shouldn't feel about their slaves.  I only have an opinion on what I feel about MY slaves.  I don't believe I would be an effective Master without the love that I feel for my girls. 

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