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Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:03:25 PM   
masterkinkster


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          Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again,  and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
  Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

   Opinions   please.....Yours in Kink...MB

    
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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:04:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, and neither must she love him. However the relationship is deeper if you don't protect yourself emotionally. IMO.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:06:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		There IS no "must do" in this life choice.  Two people do whatever those two people agree on doing and what is right for them. 

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:06:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Greetings A/all:
         Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again,  and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

  Opinions   please.....Yours in Kink...MB 



have to?  no, of course not.  i'm sure there are plenty of D/s couples who have a strictly play situation, or an absolute M/s relationship in which love is not a factor, nor is it wanted.  it is all in what the individuals want.

Daddy loves me, i love him.  he calls me his lil girl slave.  and i am only too happy to be his.  but that's the way *our* particular relationship works, and we are happy with it.

kitten

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:08:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		No. I have a dishwasher that I own that works for me, I keep and use, but I don't love it.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:10:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Greetings A/all:
         Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again,  and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

  Opinions   please.....Yours in Kink...MB

   



Not at all.....

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:10:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Greetings A/all:
         Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again,  and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

  Opinions   please.....Yours in Kink...MB

Personally I think that a Dominant should do whatever makes them comfortable.
There was a slave on CM a couple of years ago (Veronica, I do miss hiim so) who would have hated this question. He used to say he wasn't owned to be loved. In fact his Owner did not love him and he liked it that way.
Not every D/s or M/s dynamic has to involve love. I think that a certain amount of caring must be in place, but love? No.
But that's just me..

MoGa

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:11:31 PM   
Owner4SexSlave


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Status: offline 		The only Musts are left up to the individuals involved.   You have the freedom to have either Love involved or not have it.  Not to mention there are multiple types of Love as well.
  

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:41:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Greetings A/all:
         Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again,  and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

  Opinions   please.....Yours in Kink...MB

   


No...thank God for that

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:42:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster

Greetings A/all:
         Perhaps the age old question in our lifestyle being posed once again,  and yes please E/everyone chip in and add Y/your thoughts.
Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"? to use and keep, to do as he or she pleases?

  Opinions   please.....Yours in Kink...MB
  


Does the slave require it?   That can certainly skew the definition, since by strict definition 'love' and 'ownership' are not mutually inclusive.  I've known many a female sub who wants 'only One Master' and wants in return to be 'His only sub'...  That's commitment, of course, not love, which is only one alternate form of commitment.  The concept's still there, though, if you squint.



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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 3:55:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

No. I have a dishwasher that I own that works for me, I keep and use, but I don't love it.


Maybe it is true you dont "love it," but I have a feeling you will miss it if it breaks down.  

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 4:24:51 PM   
darklilsub


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Status: offline 		i believe that in this lifestyle, it is much like in the vanilla world, there are very different dynamics in any two relationships. Do i believe that love is necessary? No. Is it what A/all are looking for? No. What matters most to me, is finding that other person that is looking for the same things and willing to work towards the goals set in the relationship. Could i ever be owned by One that doesn't love me? Yes, i have been. Do i want to be again? Well....lol...Like i said, what matters is what is right for the relationship involved. Hope my two cents has been worth something.   :)

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 5:07:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

No. I have a dishwasher that I own that works for me, I keep and use, but I don't love it.


Maybe it is true you dont "love it," but I have a feeling you will miss it if it breaks down.  


SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Don't tempt fate!!!

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 5:10:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Must as in "Every single person must love their slave in order to own them"? No.

Must as in "You must love me, Aqua, in order to own me"? Yes.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 5:16:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster
Must a Dom or Domme'  "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"?

No they musn't.  But mine does and it is wonderful.  I personally would not be in this relationship if there was not a mutual feeling of love.  YMMV of course............luci

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 6:59:39 PM   
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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 7:14:12 PM   
sweetwenchie


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Status: offline 		Individuals have personal musts, but a "must love" across the board?  No

Would i want to be owned if i was not loved?  No.  That is simply how i am. Some do not wish to love their slave or Owner. What  works for them and their dynamic is the only must that matters.

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 7:22:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		What's love got to do with it?  Two people enjoy being with each other...thats a great start and that's all that matters.  Similar to the 'vanilla' where you can be seeing someone and consider them your g/f..b/f...f/b whatever and not love them and you'd still refer to them as such (perhaps when it suits you?)...by you ...I dont mean it literally

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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 8:03:20 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_651231/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#651253
What's love got to do with it?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_632033/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#632105
Loving your property

http://www.collarchat.com/m_609494/mpage_2/key_love/tm.htm#609934
Ownership and Love

http://www.collarchat.com/m_545462/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#545482
What does love got to do with it?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_538921/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#538965
The Loving Dom

http://www.collarchat.com/m_499831/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#499881
Don't fall in love with your dom

http://www.collarchat.com/m_477568/mpage_3/key_love/tm.htm#484997
How common is it to fall in love with a submissive or dominant?

http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=423736&mpage=1&key=love&#423879
Love and Ms

http://www.collarchat.com/m_282567/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#282615
submissive/slave romantic love

http://www.collarchat.com/m_269031/mpage_1/key_love%252Csubmission/tm.htm#269120
Falling in love with Mistress

http://www.collarchat.com/m_248492/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#248492
true love in a relationship

http://www.collarchat.com/m_236486/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#236486
balancing commitment and love

http://www.collarchat.com/m_199915/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#199915
love in bdsm

http://www.collarchat.com/m_166085/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#166085
love and D/s

http://www.collarchat.com/m_65043/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#65043
love and bdsm (the unfettered heart)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_150281/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#150281
Is it normal to fall in love with your dom during training?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_125880/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#125880
not allowed to love him, what do I do?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_119832/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#119832
being owned or being loved

http://www.collarchat.com/m_97124/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#97124
subs/masochists and love

http://www.collarchat.com/m_31285/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#31285
can love get in the way?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_14998/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#14998
love in d/s

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2491/mpage_1/key_love/tm.htm#2491
is love important in a relationship



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RE: Love for your slave? - 2/13/2008 9:16:14 PM   
amayos


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ORIGINAL: masterkinkster
Must a Dom or Domme' "love" a slave to own her, to call this person "theirs"?


Nay.

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