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Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 4:22:01 PM

MrKite

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I'm a Realtor. My profession deals with a lot of differant people and being the very tolerant person I am towards all ideas, beliefs and thoughts, I have no problem working with clients from all walks of life. But I'm a lifestyler and for many good reasons that does not come up in conversation with clients with one possible exception. I have an Old Guard Leather flag and a Triscillion bumper sticker on the back of my car. A long time ago I had to decide what I would say if a client asked me what those stickers meant. Today that happened.

After following me around to see a few houses this middle age couple with no kids asked me about my bumper stickers. When they asked my first reply was, "They are of a sexual nature, do you still want to know?" They said yes they do. So I explained the meaning behind both symbols in the BDSM lifestyle. They seemed to accept my explaintion openly without asking any further questions. In a few days I'll know if I still have a client worth $2000 or not.

Was my desicion to be honest worth it?

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 4:24:38 PM

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i think your decision to be honest was spot on definately - after all you gave them the choice of whether or not they wanted to hear.

you never know you could have given them some ideas or they may have already had some form of idea about them

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 4:26:44 PM

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IMO, Honesty above all else. In the end, all you've got is your word. If you wouldn't have told the truth, and the client googled and discovered your lie, how would that reflect on you?

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 4:30:24 PM

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It seems to me the lack of honesty will harm you. The lack of money will not.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 4:47:55 PM

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Just out of curiosity, what did you say the Old Guard Leather Flag meant, and what Old Guard Leather was?

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 4:51:41 PM

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To keep it simple I explained that the flag was originally used by the gay community and that I had it before the triscillion was created. That it was used by the Denom and LEather crowd and a way to siginfy bdsm play. And that I am not gay. :)

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 4:55:25 PM

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I am possibly the only person on this board who believes that absolute honesty is quite unnecessary and potentially very destructive. I'm also a very honest person. So, what to make of that?

I see my kink as being on a "need to know" basis. Most people don't need to know - don't even want to know.

Kudos on doing what you thought was the right thing! Only you can say whether or not it was worth the loss of income. It wouldn't be income I would worry about losing, but, as I've posted before, I live in a frightfully conservative community.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 4:59:30 PM

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Given that you put them in a public place meant for others to see, it was inevitable that someone would ask you about them, so why not tell the truth?

Was my decision to be honest worth it?

Depends upon how you feel if you lose $2000. I'd say it was worth it, but that's me.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 5:03:03 PM

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I have to commend you for your honesty. I for one, would continue to be your client, because you were honest with me when I asked you a question. If it were me, if I had not wanted the answer I wouldn't have asked the question. But then again, if it were me, I would not have asked the question. I don't get into personal discussions with business associates or clients. Whatever bumper sticker you have on your car, does not determine whether you can sell me a piece of property. So in my mind that would have been a personal question that I would not have asked. But on the other hand, you have them on your car and you've left yourself wide open for questions.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 5:03:43 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subtee

FR~

It seems to me the lack of honesty will harm you. The lack of money will not.

I just bought 2 gallons of milk, some Cheerios and a 6 pack of Coke.

I'm pretty sure the girl at the checkstand didn't say "That'll be 11 honesty's and 63 integrity please".

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 5:11:53 PM

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I learned the hard....way.

I don`t think its just anyones bizz what I do..who I am, etc etc...anymore. Plain...simple.

But `ey....whatever trips ones trigger.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 5:23:57 PM

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To the OP:

Not to be harsh, but if you are going to tell them, at least tell them correctly. Correct me if I am wrong, but here is the link to the flag you have on your bumper.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather_Pride_Flag
It is not and Old Guard Leather Flag, to my knowledge there is no such thing. This is a Leather Pride flag however, and you are correct, it was first used by the gay community, although is not limited to them anymore. There is also information on the triskele, or triskelion, (not triscillion) and although I commend you for trying to be honest, sometimes being factual also helps when trying to accomplish that.

Just my .02

And while we are at it, a realtor is someone who is a part of a membership association, the actual professional designation you hold is that of a real estate licensee or Broker. You could sell real estate whether or not you belong to the Realtor's Association. I should know, I am a licensed Real Estate Broker, and am NOT a realtor.

None of this is meant to be snarky, just trying to be accurate.

< Message edited by kc692 -- 2/9/2008 5:24:54 PM >

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 5:38:20 PM

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Your decision won't cost me a penny so whether I think it was worth it or not is irrelevant. Let's see if they find another realtor and then you can tell us if it was worth it. Will it have been?

In regard to the "total honesty" comments in this thread... the people I trust least in this world are the ones who say they never lie.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 5:45:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Griswold

quote:

ORIGINAL: subtee

FR~

It seems to me the lack of honesty will harm you. The lack of money will not.

I just bought 2 gallons of milk, some Cheerios and a 6 pack of Coke.

I'm pretty sure the girl at the checkstand didn't say "That'll be 11 honesty's and 63 integrity please".

Okay, I will amend: the lack of money will harm some; I do hope you're not among them, Griswold.

However, rich or poor, I do believe we ourselves are harmed by the lies or dishonesty we visit upon the world, not to mention the harm to others. Again, the harm done to us by not having resources is not always self inflicted, and therefore, not self damaging in that sense. This is, I believe, the purlieu of the OP: that which we ourselves control.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 7:08:22 PM

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OP, I wasnt trying to kill your thread.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 9:41:47 PM

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You don't have to be dishonest to change the subject. It's not dishonest for me to feel that my sexual kink has no place in my professional life. There's no choice here between money and honesty in my opinion.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 9:50:05 PM

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**waits to see if the OP is ever coming back to the thread**

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 9:55:58 PM

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Mr Kite The Beatles.

Honesty is Priority 1#

As Always, ant

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 10:49:47 PM

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After reading the OP, I figure Honesty was the best course. After all, he specifically asked them a warning question, to which they evidently replied yes. Lying at the point would have been counterproductive.

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RE: Honest or Money, whats more important. - 2/9/2008 11:01:54 PM

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It probably wasn't worth it. But there are pro's, even if they don't outweight the cons, and you'll probably survive no matter which way this goes.

Then again, you will have the mentality of having not hidden, but being honest; perhaps that pride will make it all worthwhile.

But, hey. They could secretely be billionaires who wanted a kinky agent, and the next thing they're going to ask you for is an expensive contractor to install a dugeon for 'em. You never know. :P

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