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Faeorie -> Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 4:27:19 AM)

I was just wondering if there are other Dommes/Doms out there like me who are masochistic but still dominant. I'm a masochist to a certain degree. Having a lot of pain delt to me really turns me on. It's relaly weird because I'm not submissive about the pain. I find myself ordering my fiance to hit me, pull my hair, and even more painful acts. I enjoy extremely rough sex with biting and scratching. Hell, I inflict pain on myself when I masturbate! I'm also a sadist becuase I love to dish out pain. I'd have to say my Sadism and masochism are about the equal, with possibly the sadism coming out more on top sometimes. Are there any others out there like this?

I guess the same goes for submissives who are sadists?





Domin8tingUrDrmz -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 4:38:13 AM)

Yes.




RCdc -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 5:40:28 AM)

I was primarily submissive sadist before meeting Darcy.  While I hesitate to label him because that is he choice as to what he identifies as, he demands of me what he calls the 'delicious things' I do. I do not become dominant whilst inflicting pain, I am doing so because it is desired.
 
And fwiw - it's not weird.[;)]
 
the.dark.




Whiterabbit0117 -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 10:27:15 AM)

Yes there are others out there.  I find it easiest if I separate  Dom/Sub from top/bottom  There are quite a few Dom's who bottom for the sensation.  Finding good subs who can top is far more difficult.  Usually the closest you find are switches.




Nineveh -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 11:26:10 AM)

I am a Dom with a definite masochistic streak.  I love to be bitten, sometimes I like being hit, I like the marks that are left by a bite or a scratch.  I'm not going to order a sub to do these things though, that's not fun for me.  What I will do is engage in rape roleplay, and happily take the pain and the marks left by her resistance.  Or I will know that I have a sub who likes to play by biting me, in order to invite repercussions.  Not that there is anything wrong whatsoever with asking to be beaten, even tied up and beaten while completely in control of the situation.  I can definitely see that as a very powerful situation, it is jsut not the situaiton for me.




ProlificNeeds -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 12:29:18 PM)

Submissive sadist.
I get a huge thrill out of being ordered to give pain, but without a D-type commanding it, it's very non-sexual and serious when my sadist gets it's claws into something. My submissiveness is very sexual in nature, my sadism is not when seperated from power exchange.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 3:42:36 PM)

Yes...there's been a fair number of topics about it, especially recently. Do a search and you'll find some interesting things.

Master Fire




PlayfulOne -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 4:09:38 PM)

I am a sado/masochist, always have been.

K




Gwynvyd -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/7/2008 9:12:46 PM)

As Master Fire said.. we have been discussing this a lot of late.

There are many of us who are D types but also Maso.. I personaly see nothing wrong with it *shrugs* it is all sensory input. I like to both give, and get these sort of things.. so.. no issues.

Gwyn




Taintedblood -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 12:55:46 AM)

i view myself while very masochistic quite the sadist too, however my masochistic sife comes out much more i guess.
 
to be honest i think it is a quite a common thing to be both masochistic and yet sadist at the same time.




Focus50 -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 2:49:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Faeorie

I was just wondering if there are other Dommes/Doms out there like me who are masochistic but still dominant. I'm a masochist to a certain degree. Having a lot of pain delt to me really turns me on. It's relaly weird because I'm not submissive about the pain. I find myself ordering my fiance to hit me, pull my hair, and even more painful acts. I enjoy extremely rough sex with biting and scratching. Hell, I inflict pain on myself when I masturbate! I'm also a sadist becuase I love to dish out pain. I'd have to say my Sadism and masochism are about the equal, with possibly the sadism coming out more on top sometimes. Are there any others out there like this?

I guess the same goes for submissives who are sadists?

Just in case this thread melts down into a bs generalisation that all dom/mes have a submissive inner self blah blah, I'll stick my hand up and say this one certainly doesn't.  No masochistic Doms in my home.
 
Just curious, if your Sadism/masochism ratio is roughly equal, why don't you consider yourself a switch?  Ordering your fiance to hit you as opposed to her doing it proactively may be a distinction but that's probably more about her motivation, not yours.
 
Focus.




Owner4SexSlave -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 3:44:17 AM)

Ummmmm.. yes.  I'm one of those sadomaso Doms.  I don't think twice about ordering somebody to bite, scratch, and many other thing that are painful.  I'm with Gwynvyd on this one, it's all about sensory input!  I'm a sensation whore and fully admit it!




Nineveh -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 1:00:02 PM)

Because Dom vs sub (or switch) is a distinction of power.  Sadist vs masochist is a distinction of pain.  If you want to be hurt, but also insist on being completely in control of your pain, you are a dominant masochist, not a sub. 




Prinsexx -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 2:05:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Whiterabbit0117

Yes there are others out there.  I find it easiest if I separate  Dom/Sub from top/bottom  There are quite a few Dom's who bottom for the sensation.  Finding good subs who can top is far more difficult.  Usually the closest you find are switches.

i am a switch but i do not intraswitch and i am usually only domme to women. However i have taken a man slave which is also quite different and this was for my own use in order to make my Master's life easier and i am continuing to interview them.

But i also topped another's Master recently because i was exchanged and the other Master wanted me to top him. I did not feel i was dominant to him: i remained submissive whilst topping him and he wanted rough sensation in a way that others might have perceived as humiliating towards him. Overall i was doing what my Master wanted.

Every dynamic is different.
We can all categorise ourselves into those categories for which we have category names...until we name other categories. The main heading though is still bdsm.




Prinsexx -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 2:13:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nineveh

Because Dom vs sub (or switch) is a distinction of power.  Sadist vs masochist is a distinction of pain.  If you want to be hurt, but also insist on being completely in control of your pain, you are a dominant masochist, not a sub. 


Very well said but might i......
Because Dom vs sub (or switch) is a distinction and exchange of power. Sadist vs masochist is a distinction of directive physical and or emotional pain.  If you want to be hurt, but also insist on being completely in control of your pain, you are a dominant masochist, not a sub.

PS directive as a fusion between directed and directional




Focus50 -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 2:24:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nineveh

Because Dom vs sub (or switch) is a distinction of power.  Sadist vs masochist is a distinction of pain.  If you want to be hurt, but also insist on being completely in control of your pain, you are a dominant masochist, not a sub. 

OK, that's pretty good.
 
I learnt early that I don't get anything out of receiving pain - long before I even heard of BDSM...!  My football career ended as soon as it began (teenager) when I discovered I didn't like being tackled and often came up swinging.... lol
 
But I digress...  I am a Dom so for me, it's "normal" that I don't associate receiving pain with being dominant; which means it's difficult to get my head around rationalising those Dom/mes who do.  However, I do and probably always will get my back up when people start generalising that all Dom/mes have a submissive side to get in touch with - arrggghhhh!!!!! 
 
Kinda flashes back to the sensitive nineties where men were supposed to get in touch with their "feminine sides"...  <groan>....  and <shiver>
 
So I don't apologise for making a pre-emptive strike here, but that's a good answer for we ignorant.
 
Focus.




Prinsexx -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 2:59:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50



Kinda flashes back to the sensitive nineties where men were supposed to get in touch with their "feminine sides"...  <groan>....  and <shiver>


90's Therapist: Tell me, are you in touch with your feminine side?
00's Client: Sure, yes, I touched her in bed this morning.





RCdc -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 4:10:19 PM)

This is Darcy

I am most definitely a dominant personality but I enjoy having the.dark. inflict all manner of painful pleasures on me because it is what I desire.

The fact that she revels in servicing my requirements plays perfectly into her service oriented raison d'etre and thus we are both completely satisfied by this apparent role reversal, though it is in reality me topping from the bottom. Pain can be pleasure when inflicted with love. [;)]




MistressFaye1 -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 5:10:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

This is Darcy

I am most definitely a dominant personality but I enjoy having the.dark. inflict all manner of painful pleasures on me because it is what I desire.

The fact that she revels in servicing my requirements plays perfectly into her service oriented raison d'etre and thus we are both completely satisfied by this apparent role reversal, though it is in reality me topping from the bottom. Pain can be pleasure when inflicted with love. [;)]


I swear I want to be like you two when I grow up!  I love your posts! 

Faye




DesFIP -> RE: Masochistic Domme/Doms? (2/8/2008 7:58:21 PM)

Sensation has nothing to do with power. If he's had a rough day and wants me to rub his feet, that doesn't make him a submissive. It just means he wants a certain sensation. If my foot is cramping and he rubs it for me, that doesn't mean I'm suddenly in charge, it just means I can start walking without limping again.

If he orders five alarm chili he hasn't suddenly turned sub and me domme because I get it mild. Nor does it mean he gets sexually excited by the chili. It's just sensation.




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