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UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 1:55:52 PM

LadyEllen

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BBC's Horizon tonight features the results of scientific enquiry into the UK's most dangerous drugs - scientific in that its based on the research and conclusions of scientific and medical specialists, ignoring popular myth, user testimony and the approach used by legislation and focussing on the health effects.

Here's the rundown; some of these are totally unknown to me, must make a note to talk to my dealer........

20 Khat
19 Alkyl nitrate
18 Ecstasy
17 GHB
16 Anabolic Steroids
15 methylphenidate
14 LSD
13 4MTA
12 Solvents
11 Cannabis
10 Buprenorphine
9 Tobacco
8 Amphetamine
7 Benzodiazepene
6 Ketamine
5 Alcohol
4 Methadone
3 Barbiturates
2 Cocaine (& crack)
1 Heroin

What amazed me was the number of estimated users of each of these substances. Although obviously alcohol, tobacco and cannabis are widely used, there were numbers in the thousands for many of these substances, the tens of thousands for some and the hundreds of thousands for a few. Taken together with the three widely used drugs, it would seem the UK is pretty much universally dosed up on something or other!

I also wondered about crystal meth, which wasnt mentioned but which I thought was a growing problem - mind you it might be that it fits into one of the above unfamilar groups.

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 2:08:55 PM

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Funny Alcohol comes fifth, what is the criteria for harmfulness used?

If you were to smoke pure tobacco rather than tobacco added to all them other chemicals who’s to say it is more harmful than cannabis? They are both addictive; they both have an effect on the nervous system. Caffeine not on the list either, death statistics from drinking RedBull haven’t been released yet I see.

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 2:12:04 PM

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I'm surprised alcohol isnt the number one - far more deaths, hospitalisations and illnesses than any other here apart from tobacco, and lots more social problems than any other here including tobacco.

They judged danger by the effects on the user I believe.

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 2:19:58 PM

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This list is pretty strange.

Methylphenidate is ritalin and I know there have been some deaths and some abuse I' wasn't aware it was a big problem. 4-MTA was one I'd never heard of and the wiki article wasn't informative, seems strange it was ranked higher than X, GHB, LSD and steroids to me. Methadone is the 4th most dangerous drug? I know it isn't perfectly safe but methadone maintenance is a pretty effective treatment for heroin addiction.

BTW crystal meth is simply a form of methamphetamine or as the lsit names it amphetamine.

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 2:44:20 PM

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Ritalin is used to treat ADHD.

I seem to recall that methadon is very much more addictive than heroin - is that correct? - and thus going from heroin to methadon is getting in far deeper shit.

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 3:13:46 PM

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I'm surprised alcohol isnt the number one - far more deaths, hospitalisations and illnesses than any other here apart from tobacco, and lots more social problems than any other here including tobacco.

They judged danger by the effects on the user I believe.

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 3:22:25 PM

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perhaps they are using death of the user and not accidental deaths caused by things like drunk driving...where the driver lives but the victims dont.

if they used that criteria then alcohol would be #1 because it kills other people as a result of the drinking.

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 3:38:30 PM

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Strange... cannabis before E... hmmm...

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 5:30:38 PM

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Surveys and lists, fine, they display information that were once unknown, but is the survey for interest, or is something going to be done with the findings?

If nothing were to be done with the findings aside from public interest, then that survey exists to perhaps allow people to modify their thinking and behaviour to things once thought of as a bit on the edge.

Judging by this list, alcohol is more dangerous than tobacco, yet it is the tobacco users that have been ostracised as being the ones who are living dangerously and threatening the health of those around them.

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RE: UK's most dangerous - 2/5/2008 9:40:59 PM

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Welcome to Earth, third rock from the sun. And it is 1984 forever.

You wonder why I don't even take aspirin. I smoke and drink and I know it does affect my mind, but I know exactly how. I want no part of being a trustee of modern chemistry.

Columbine, SSRIs. Bush, ritalin I bet. And they tell us not to get high. Who the fuck is stupid enough to start a very expensive war half way across the world when we can't even pay the interest on the fucking garbage we buy ? I want a bunch of that drug, because apparently everything is just fine when you are on it, even faced with blaring facts to the contrary.

Those are the people who are really dangerous. Not folks like me who would detonate a nuclear device in my own hometown, with me sitting right there, because I want to go all at once.

The way we live, they suck you dry slowly.

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