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pahunkboy -> Fox news declines (1/29/2008 7:15:35 PM)

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200801290001




juliaoceania -> RE: Fox news declines (1/29/2008 7:48:13 PM)

Well it is about damn time!




Feric -> RE: Fox news declines (1/29/2008 7:52:22 PM)

Any news organization that deliberately spins--or refuses to present both sides to an issue--has crossed the line into propaganda. It's a deliberate violation of the cardinal rule of journalism, and sets a dangerous precedent. Journalism is one of the few professions which polices itself. By becoming the voice of one political viewpoint, Fox is taking a terrible risk by making the specter of government control or enforcement of media rules closer to reality. 




PlayfulOne -> RE: Fox news declines (1/29/2008 7:55:07 PM)

Personally if I had to choose between watching grass grow and watching Fox News, I'll take the grass.  I'll also pass on MSNBC for the same reason swung the other direstion.

           "The still-standing candidacy of Fox News nemesis and well-funded, anti-war GOP candidate Rep. Ron Paul."

Now that one was funny,  I guess still standing means I am not stopping even if I am in the rear with only single digits.  The real question there is will he stick by his comments on not running as an independent, cause he's not gonna come close to the nomination.

K




Termyn8or -> RE: Fox news declines (1/29/2008 9:31:36 PM)

At a meeting "I figure we should buy Fox news. Of course we cannot just do that, and because of the possibility of exposure we shouldn't even hold too much of their stock. But we and our people should become their biggest customers. That will enable us to exercise quite a respectable degree of control, and have total fiduciary and moral impunity in the eyes of, well anyone".

You may ask who's words those are, and I will tell you now that they are not a quote. Those are my words. If I was running the kind of game these MFs are, that is exactly what I would do. It would be a smart move, because control of the media in any degree is actually priceless. If I could get my buddies who own or run big conglomerates to just direct their subsidiaries to advertise with certain companies, like Fox, I would then be able to tell them not to as well.

Once you have achieved a certain level of wealth you can do that. You actually buy power at that point. And the root of most of the power in this country is the media and the churches. Big money's foot is always in the door of both.

Not that many people are capable of running this game, and although I do have a superior understanding of it, I doubt I would play it very well if thrust into it without notice. Running the big business game is also complex.

Let me clue yall in on something just so you know. Notice how they made fun of Clinton, they make fun of Bush, they have made fun of alot of Presidents.

Well the Presidents love it. They need to appeal to the masses, and the mases like people who they think are like themselves. Therefore they welcome some political satire. You think the President of the US doesn't have a psychologist somewhere who can tell him this ? I do.

No I am not under care, I know the guy. Had some quite interesting discussions in fact, but unfortunately he is insane. Details at eleven, not right now.

I got a half a mind (that is a subject for another post, but now I know a Woman who I guess has half a brain, literally) to start a thread on how to take over the world. I wonder if any would have enough balls and brains to participate.

Anyway, back to subject. Most have heard about Haliburton moving to Dubai. Oh the tax advantages. One of the largest US defense contractors moves out. Did you hear about it on Fox ? Where did you hear about it ? Did you read page 12D of your local newspaper ? Or did you find out on the internet ?

Just curious.

T




Owner59 -> RE: Fox news declines (1/29/2008 10:10:21 PM)

From the piece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH47iuMTuC8

Very funny.




Gwynvyd -> RE: Fox news declines (1/30/2008 12:29:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Feric

Any news organization that deliberately spins--or refuses to present both sides to an issue--has crossed the line into propaganda. It's a deliberate violation of the cardinal rule of journalism, and sets a dangerous precedent. Journalism is one of the few professions which polices itself. By becoming the voice of one political viewpoint, Fox is taking a terrible risk by making the specter of government control or enforcement of media rules closer to reality. 


Yeppers.. what he said.

I am sooooo glad I am no longer a media whore.
I still work for "The Man" but at least I do not have to peddle that sort of crap into peoples homes any more.

Gwyn,
who has never watched Fox except by accident at work.. and only to change the blooming channel.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Fox news declines (1/30/2008 2:59:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200801290001


MediaMatters is ... not a reliable source.  They are partisan to the bone.

I just find it incredibly funny at the reaction of people who hate FOX because it is "biased", while thinking that the other networks aren't.

Mote, beam, eye.

Firm




Rule -> RE: Fox news declines (1/30/2008 3:13:25 AM)

FR:
 
Most of the media are controlled by the powers that be. I am extremely sceptical of any news media.
A friend of mine noticed a lull in the news shortly before the first Gulf war against Iraq. "Something big is going to happen", he predicted.




PrizedPosession -> RE: Fox news declines (1/30/2008 3:17:13 AM)

Though yes more of the mainstream media is biased, particular due for two reasons
1.Audience
2.Owner of the company
They really determine everything in the journalism buisness. Besides with sites that let YOU pick what you want to read or see it is even harder for the editors to figure what story is best for the paper, time, and situation at hand. If they lose audience they lose any possibility of bringing the news of any way, shape or form, because they will be shut down if they have no readership/viewers. So they hit the key demographics who use their network and tap into that instead of looking at what needs to be front page. Is it fair? No, it's not fair to the editors, journalists, photographers, camera (wo)men, or most importantly the audience. If you let them know what you want changed they will because they want you to watch. They even tried with family friendly news, and it failed because as much as people bitch about it, most want to see the crashes, the deaths as well as the happy stuff because that is news as well as life.
And FoxNews gets most of the spotlight of bias because it portrays it the most (deciding Bush won before the official announcement was out, and many others if you see "OutFoxed") Though other outlets are in no way innocent of this it is either not as bad as Fox does it. i refuse to watch it because their is not even an attempt to separate OPINION from fact.
And journalists strive to be 100% objective but they are human as well and sometimes things slip and they try to fix it to be efficient. Plus considering after 9-11 no one wanted to be pointed out as the "bad guy" or "anti patriot" because they differed. And most newspapers/tv stations regret it because it has led to a current irreparability in the trust of the audience which is their primary concern (Can check SPJ)
And i am sorry for this long kinda rant...i may not always like it but i do try to understand why a station or newspaper will do something and the media is constantly being bashed, and it's not all that bad, i promise.
-bobcat
breathes deeply




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