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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 8:45:38 AM   
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That Bill is playing racial politics is a bigoted comment.

He is friends w/ Jackson and an associate.Unlike the wacky right-wing  fruit loops who hate Jackson,the rest of America don`t think ill of him.

This was a truthful comment and a compliment.

Only a bigot, would think is was a put down or smear.

Does it matter that Clinton never said those words?





Ah, thank god we've got the expert. Owner will tell us exactly who likes and who doesn't like Jesse Jackson, AND exactly what reasons they like or don't like him!

So because Martin Luther King did not like Jesse Jackson, he is a right wing fruit loop, eh? Your stereotyping is as bad as your spelling.




Aww,...defensive,....aren`t we.....

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Defensive? Of what? A small minded person who loves to label people? Who makes sweeping generalizations?

According to you, there's only ONE reason to not like Jesse Jackson, and that ONE reason is that they're a right wing bigot. The world is not black and white, skippy. We are all individuals, each with our own reasons and motivations. Just because we disagree with you, you automatically label us "right wing neo cons," and thus anything we say goes through that filter you've set up.

Would it matter if I said I have always and forever been pro-choice and pro-gay rights? No, of course not. That statement would never make it through the filter you've set up.

Funny, how you're as close minded and intolerant as those "right wing neo cons" you love to hate. You're just sitting on the other extreme side of the spectrum.

FatDomDaddy, awmslave, slaveboyforyou, MissSCD, you're all officially "right wing neo cons." Why? Because you don't like Jesse Jackson. The rest of your ideals, the rest of who you are means nothing.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 10:54:00 AM   
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Owner, Bill Clinton plays politics of all kinds.  He would do anything to win, and so would his wife.  It really amazes me how much they have fooled everyone in this country.  I don't care if you are a liberal, but get a better candidate.  I am telling you, that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.  He is a snake, and he always has been.  


He's a politician!!!!!! Anyway he has never pulled the same sort of shit the Republicans tried in his Presidency. They were prepared to make the US look ridiculous and to a large extent did and gave the perception around the world that Republicans were mean, bitter and spiteful.

I guess Clinton didn't have to pull any shit on the Republicans, the Bush administration has made just about everyone around the world think Republicans are mean, bitter, spiteful, small minded warmongering bigots.


Meat, "around the world?"
Sure, the next time I'm in Ireland I'll ask them what they think about "Republicans."
As the late speaker of the house, Thomas P. "Tip" O'Neil once said; "all politics is local."
The only thing they asked me about American politics in Ireland was one afternoon in a pub when they were talking about Clinton.
"Hey Yank, did you vote for that Wanker?"
Referring to Clinton getting a bj from Monica and then "finishing himself off" in the sink .
"For fuck sakes! Who does that kind of nasty shit!"


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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 12:24:32 PM   
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That Bill is playing racial politics is a bigoted comment.

He is friends w/ Jackson and an associate.Unlike the wacky right-wing  fruit loops who hate Jackson,the rest of America don`t think ill of him.

This was a truthful comment and a compliment.

Only a bigot, would think is was a put down or smear.

Does it matter that Clinton never said those words?





Ah, thank god we've got the expert. Owner will tell us exactly who likes and who doesn't like Jesse Jackson, AND exactly what reasons they like or don't like him!

So because Martin Luther King did not like Jesse Jackson, he is a right wing fruit loop, eh? Your stereotyping is as bad as your spelling.




Aww,...defensive,....aren`t we.....

<chuckles>


Defensive? Of what? A small minded person who loves to label people? Who makes sweeping generalizations?

According to you, there's only ONE reason to not like Jesse Jackson, and that ONE reason is that they're a right wing bigot. The world is not black and white, skippy. We are all individuals, each with our own reasons and motivations. Just because we disagree with you, you automatically label us "right wing neo cons," and thus anything we say goes through that filter you've set up.

Would it matter if I said I have always and forever been pro-choice and pro-gay rights? No, of course not. That statement would never make it through the filter you've set up.

Funny, how you're as close minded and intolerant as those "right wing neo cons" you love to hate. You're just sitting on the other extreme side of the spectrum.

FatDomDaddy, awmslave, slaveboyforyou, MissSCD, you're all officially "right wing neo cons." Why? Because you don't like Jesse Jackson. The rest of your ideals, the rest of who you are means nothing.


I didn`t name anyone.

Just let their words speak for them.They name themselves.
It`s effortless.

There's probably no greater insult than that. Being compared to that lying racist Jesse Jackson? The guy that rubbed his shirt in MLK's blood and then lied to the world and said he held him as he lay dying? The guy that MLK actually deemed dangerous, and wanted to keep him away?
 
 
"Would it matter if I said I have always and forever been pro-choice and pro-gay rights?"
 
After a statement like that,I couldn`t care less if you were Barbra Streisand or Gloria Steinem.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 12:33:01 PM   
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Owner, Ted Kennedy really stabbed your girl in the back today!
But, some of the "lesser Kennedys" still back Hillary.
Such gratitude for all the Clintons did for the Kennedys!

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 12:43:14 PM   
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Owner, Ted Kennedy really stabbed your girl in the back today!
But, some of the "lesser Kennedys" still back Hillary.
Such gratitude for all the Clintons did for the Kennedys!

Popeye,

She can take it.This is politics.I very wise man(who I`ve met)once said,"It ain`t over,till it`s over"


Watching the last republican debate,Mitt,Wudy,and McCain were talking about Hillary for half the debate.And we`re still in primary! lol.

Boy ,that woman`s got some of you guys spooked.



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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 3:39:12 PM   
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There was one reason and one reason only that bill compared Obama to Jackson and that was to play of the fears of white voters. I don't care how nice and gussied up Bubba made it sound, it was a warning for democrats not to vote for Obama because a "Black" democrat would lose by landslide proportions.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 3:43:02 PM   
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And rape your daughters, and force your sons to convert to his Islamic religion...

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 3:48:12 PM   
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There was one reason and one reason only that bill compared Obama to Jackson and that was to play of the fears of white voters. I don't care how nice and gussied up Bubba made it sound, it was a warning for democrats not to vote for Obama because a "Black" democrat would lose by landslide proportions.



But who will warn the Republicans????? I'm so worried. Oh..That's where folks like you come in. At least your skills won't go to waste.

It's good to have a special purpose.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 3:50:29 PM   
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When Obama wins the nomination Owner will be singing a different tune.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 6:13:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

That Bill is playing racial politics is a bigoted comment.

He is friends w/ Jackson and an associate.Unlike the wacky right-wing  fruit loops who hate Jackson,the rest of America don`t think ill of him.

This was a truthful comment and a compliment.

Only a bigot, would think is was a put down or smear.

Does it matter that Clinton never said those words?





Ah, thank god we've got the expert. Owner will tell us exactly who likes and who doesn't like Jesse Jackson, AND exactly what reasons they like or don't like him!

So because Martin Luther King did not like Jesse Jackson, he is a right wing fruit loop, eh? Your stereotyping is as bad as your spelling.




Aww,...defensive,....aren`t we.....

<chuckles>


Defensive? Of what? A small minded person who loves to label people? Who makes sweeping generalizations?

According to you, there's only ONE reason to not like Jesse Jackson, and that ONE reason is that they're a right wing bigot. The world is not black and white, skippy. We are all individuals, each with our own reasons and motivations. Just because we disagree with you, you automatically label us "right wing neo cons," and thus anything we say goes through that filter you've set up.

Would it matter if I said I have always and forever been pro-choice and pro-gay rights? No, of course not. That statement would never make it through the filter you've set up.

Funny, how you're as close minded and intolerant as those "right wing neo cons" you love to hate. You're just sitting on the other extreme side of the spectrum.

FatDomDaddy, awmslave, slaveboyforyou, MissSCD, you're all officially "right wing neo cons." Why? Because you don't like Jesse Jackson. The rest of your ideals, the rest of who you are means nothing.


I didn`t name anyone.

Just let their words speak for them.They name themselves.
It`s effortless.

There's probably no greater insult than that. Being compared to that lying racist Jesse Jackson? The guy that rubbed his shirt in MLK's blood and then lied to the world and said he held him as he lay dying? The guy that MLK actually deemed dangerous, and wanted to keep him away?
 
 
"Would it matter if I said I have always and forever been pro-choice and pro-gay rights?"
 
After a statement like that,I couldn`t care less if you were Barbra Streisand or Gloria Steinem.


No, you don't name anyone, but you sure do label them. If we choose to dislike Jesse Jackson, then we are BIGOTS! BIGOTS!!!

How many times have I been labeled a "neo-con" by you? How many others have you bestowed that label on? And why? Simply because they disagree with you on a particular point? One digression by them, and they are banished forever!!! So says you, who've never met them, and decide to judge their entire person based on one comment.

And I know you couldn't care less about what I claim. When they don't fit the picture you've placed me in, you simply toss them away, label them inconvenient truths, or shout "Liar liar!" from the highest mountain.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 7:06:58 PM   
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Hi slaveboy,

They are tough fighters,and they don`t come to a gun fight with a knife.So what?

In all the years the  republicans and right-wing media have been calling him names,he hasn`t said one thing ugly or untrue about anyone.I defy anyone who can show he has,to do so.

They have never swift boated or pulled a Willie Horton,or claimed that his opponent had had a black baby out of wedlock,etc.etc?We know who does that crap...

I know the press went after him over these comments,saying he was playing with race.There was no such thing in this vid.I kinda liked how he pointed out that the press is fanning the flames and playing with race.He says,"shame on you,to the press.I say ,shame on the press too.

They suck dick.


Owner I remember him before he became President.  You really don't understand what Arkansas was like when the Democrats ruled everything.  They ruled this state from Reconstuction until Clinton left office.  Only after he left office, did we actually get some real reforms here.  I grew up in the same town that Billy grew up in.  I went to school with his niece, and I met him on 3 occasions.  I will grant you that he was a hell of a politician, but a statesman he was not and is not.  My hometown was the home base for the Dixie Mafia for over 40 years.  That didn't stop under Clinton.  They ran rackets with impunity until the Feds stepped in.  Clinton's brother was part of the boys that got round up.  Guess what?  His brother rolled over on the whole lot of them.  Clinton had to cut a lot of deals to keep his name out of it, because those sons of bitches bought off every politician in the state.  If you don't know what the Dixie Mafia is, look up "Sherrif Buford Pusser".  He is the inspiration behind the  original 'Walking Tall' movie   They had his wife murdered, and they ran the Mid-South.  Clinton's little Democratic Posse let them do it without punishment for 40 years.   

Clinton was part of the good ol' boy network down here, and that wasn't about bringing a knife to a gun fight.  They fixed elections, they even had people murdered.  Hillary had state troopers carrying her laundry down to the dry cleaners, while at the same time disrespecting their service to the state.  They are FUCKING SCUMBAGS.  You will never convince me otherwise.  I know them better than you.   

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 7:07:33 PM   
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Unlike the wacky right-wing  fruit loops who hate Jackson,the rest of America don`t think ill of him.



      I'm calling Bullshit on this remark, O59.  I know people of every political persuasion and, with the exception of a very few professional victims, he is regarded as part of the problem with race relations in the USA.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 10:07:10 PM   
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Unlike the wacky right-wing  fruit loops who hate Jackson,the rest of America don`t think ill of him.







     I'm calling Bullshit on this remark, O59.  I know people of every political persuasion and, with the exception of a very few professional victims, he is regarded as part of the problem with race relations in the USA.


Then why does Imus , Bill Oreilly and every other stupid idiot come crawling to him,when they need to rehabilitate their images?

Not sure about average normal people,but I know that enraged the rightists.

That points to something other than disregard.

They were pissed that he counseled Clinton.They were pissed when Jackson fetched some captured Americans from the middle east.

They just don`t like him.For what reason,I don`t know.

What exactly is it that Jackson has done,to make race relations worse?

Examples?

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 10:15:48 PM   
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         There are several O59, but since you apparently think Yugoslavia is next to Iran, I think going to bed would be a far more productive use of my time.

     

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/28/2008 11:54:15 PM   
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There was one reason and one reason only that bill compared Obama to Jackson and that was to play of the fears of white voters. I don't care how nice and gussied up Bubba made it sound, it was a warning for democrats not to vote for Obama because a "Black" democrat would lose by landslide proportions.

FatDomDaddy:
Are you suggesting that no one has yet noticed that Mr. Obama is black?
Are you saying you,as a Democrat, would not vote for him because he is black?
Your candor,but not your bigotry, is to be applauded.
thompson





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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/29/2008 10:34:26 AM   
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OH no.... never... The Clinton's would never play racial politics with white voters!!!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/01/bubba-obama-is.html

FatDomDaddy:
Below is a copy of the quote from your link.
Bubba: Obama Is Just Like Jesse Jackson
January 26, 2008 8:18 PM
Said Bill Clinton today in Columbia, SC: "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in '84 and '88. Jackson ran a good campaign.  And Obama ran a good campaign here."
You might want to note that the part that says (Obama is just like Jesse Jackson) is not in quotes.  What "slick willie" actually said is in quotes.
I will admit to having a "smattering of ignorance" of the English language.  Please correct me if I am wrong but don't the actual words within the quote marks indicate what a person has said and that which is outside the quotes are the authors opinion.
The words that are within the quotes would be considered a compliment and not a slur by anyone with more than a passing acquaintance with the English language.
Would you be so kind as to tell us why you feel it is somehow derogatory?
thompson








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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/29/2008 10:52:59 AM   
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This is what you get,when you post blog entries from nitwits,and pretend that they are real quotes,real news stories,etc.

What I  think happened,is that Fat-domdaddy saw the ABC News thingy at the top of the page,and thought it was actual news that you could quote from.

In the future, fat-domdaddy,blog stands for "web-log",not news,fact or the public record.

Blogs are by and for people like you and me,making comments online,for people to read and reply to,they aren`t actual news items.

Actual news,reporting and current events are not blogs.

Your welcome,in advance.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/29/2008 2:57:49 PM   
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There was one reason and one reason only that bill compared Obama to Jackson and that was to play of the fears of white voters. I don't care how nice and gussied up Bubba made it sound, it was a warning for democrats not to vote for Obama because a "Black" democrat would lose by landslide proportions.

FatDomDaddy:
Are you suggesting that no one has yet noticed that Mr. Obama is black?
Are you saying you,as a Democrat, would not vote for him because he is black?
Your candor,but not your bigotry, is to be applauded.
thompson


There are millions of white democrat voters who would NEVER vote for a black
man for president. How is it that you do not know that.

Bill Clinton knows that. He knows tha Obama could never carry Arkansas in a GENERAL election, or Texas, or Florida, or Georgia or any of a host of other states. Now, Bubba also knows that there are millions of other whites that could vote for Obama in a PRIMARY but he want's them to know if they do so, the afore mentioned millions of the white democrats will stay home or crossover ensuring the next President will be a Republican, with coat tails.

That why Mrs. Clinton's Husband made the Jackson remark.

Call it whatever you will, but it is racial politics, the kind he learned from his buddies Orval Faubus  and William J Fullbright.

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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/29/2008 7:14:51 PM   
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There was one reason and one reason only that bill compared Obama to Jackson and that was to play of the fears of white voters. I don't care how nice and gussied up Bubba made it sound, it was a warning for democrats not to vote for Obama because a "Black" democrat would lose by landslide proportions.

FatDomDaddy:
Are you suggesting that no one has yet noticed that Mr. Obama is black?
Are you saying you,as a Democrat, would not vote for him because he is black?
Your candor,but not your bigotry, is to be applauded.
thompson


There are millions of white democrat voters who would NEVER vote for a black
man for president. How is it that you do not know that.
How is it that you are not aware that we appoint presidents in this country and do not elect them?


Bill Clinton knows that. He knows tha Obama could never carry Arkansas in a GENERAL election, or Texas, or Florida, or Georgia or any of a host of other states.
Are you suggesting that the electors in those states were not aware that Mr.Obama is black and that "slick willie" had to remind them?

Now, Bubba also knows that there are millions of other whites that could vote for Obama in a PRIMARY but he want's them to know if they do so, the afore mentioned millions of the white democrats will stay home or crossover ensuring the next President will be a Republican, with coat tails.
You seem to be saying that you and "slick willie" chat quite a bit thus you are privy to his thoughts on the matter.

That why Mrs. Clinton's Husband made the Jackson remark.
Which remark are you referring to?  The one where you want us to believe that "slick willie" said "Obama is just like Jesse Jackson" which he did not say.  Or the one where he said
Said Bill Clinton today in Columbia, SC: "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in '84 and '88. Jackson ran a good campaign.  And Obama ran a good campaign here."


Call it whatever you will, but it is racial politics, the kind he learned from his buddies Orval Faubus  and William J Fullbright.

Would this be the same Orval Faubus that supported Jesse Jackson in 84?
You are the one calling it "racial politics" but so far you have failed to delineate what you are talking about.  You talk around the subject but you do not actually take a stand.  Your bigotry is well documented by your many posts.  Now you would try to obfuscate your position with innuendo.  If you do not want a black man for president why don't you be honest enough to say so instead of saying someone else said it when the link you posted shows clearly that he did not.




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RE: President Clinton "Obama Is Just Like Jesse Ja... - 1/29/2008 7:56:54 PM   
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If you do not want a black man for president why don't you be honest enough to say so instead of saying someone else said it when the link you posted shows clearly that he did not.


I would vote for Thomas Sowell in a heartbeat. I'd also vote for Walter Williams

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