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Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 5:27:52 AM

KenDckey

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I was sitting here wondering. There is a lot of people here that support Hilary and Hate Walmart seemingly equally. Yet Hilary was on the board of directors when Walmart went from a Regional to a National Cut Rate Chain.

So my question is, what does everyone think of that? Me I don't really have an opinion one way or the other but both bring up a lot of comments here so I thought we might want to discuss it.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 6:00:53 AM

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I think she is deceiving most people. She may sound anti-Big Business but exactly how much legislation has she actually proposed that is anti-Big Business? The Clintons have a great relationship with the Chinese, and NAFTA was a huge success. If Hillary becomes President, I believe the majority in this country will get exactly what they deserve.

This is not exactly on point, but somewhat. If male candidate's wife was seen one morning with a black eye and bruising on her face, and it was known that there was yelling coming from their residence the night before, would it effect anyone's opinion of that candidate?

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 6:03:17 AM

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i don't think anything of it really. the way i see it a persons job in the past should have no bearing on what they do politically,after all i'm a democrat and worked for a company that was owned and run by republicans.we have a wonderous Wal Mart debate here at home.my Lord can't stand te place because of their practices yet my Mistress(His wife) likes to shop there because it's the only place in our area She can get food for Her frog lol. we call it the "forbidden store".

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 6:03:37 AM

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cnbc- a news channle for investors like hillary.,

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 6:40:09 AM

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Back when Wal Mart was a smallish regional chain Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas which just happens to be the state Wal Mart was based in. Want to bet a quick look around will find that a lot of Gov's wives sit on boards of local to their state companies? Did Hilary have a big enough chunk of stock behind her to keep her on the board if she rocked the boat? If not and it seems unlikely she had no real power and was simply a prominent person invited to be on the board as is standard practice all over.

I'm not a major supporter of Hilary but the sort of thing the OP tied is getting real old real fast.

To the OP, who pointed you to this page of her campaign site? You don't really expect us to believe that you were going through every page of her site and found this yourself.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 7:18:08 AM

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Walmart is not a unique corporate relationship for the Clinton's. Senator has Walmart, President is about to launch his Dubai connected parachute. Not that Corporate backing is unique to the Clintons or the Democrats. President Reagan sold himself for $1 Million per speech after his Presidency.

Its the hypocrisy and people's belief in the non-corporate candidate. The McCain/Ferguson campaign financing law insured that every national candidate will have corporate sponsorship; bi-partisan and paying off to insure the status quo. The other obvious example of corporate interests being a priority across political lines is granting amnesty and legalizing criminally hired workers. A perfect storm of accusation; racial, social, class, and economic prejudice, serves to distract from the corporate purpose to insure a low paid labor force.

"Hilliary and Walmart", Cheney and Balco, Bush with oil interests, Bill with Dubai. We only know these names because the egos of these people pushed them to national office. What of your one senators and congress representative? You think they're different or uniquely altruistic? Nancy Pelosi, the 'green' representative of the poor; made the use of flying the equivalent of a private military jet a priority once she became Speaker. If you answer is "so did those who preceded her" you make my point. Maybe as more of these points come to light more people will see beyond their myopic vision of political loyalty.

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Former President Clinton stands to reap around $20 million -- and will sever a politically sensitive partnership tie to Dubai -- by ending his high-profile business relationship with the investment firm of billionaire friend Ron Burkle.

Mr. Clinton is negotiating to end his relationship with Mr. Burkle's Yucaipa Cos. as part of a broader effort to protect the presidential campaign of his wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, from potential conflicts of interest. Details of Mr. Clinton's involvement in Yucaipa and his efforts to unwind it come from documents and interviews with people familiar with the matter.

The former president has had links to Yucaipa since early 2002, when Mr. Burkle -- a longtime friend and political contributor -- offered him a role there. Mr. Clinton's association with the firm began at a time when he was looking to earn large amounts of money, partly to pay heavy legal bills accumulated to defend himself and Mrs. Clinton from several investigations during his presidency.

Now, as he negotiates with Yucaipa to withdraw from the relationship, he is a wealthy man, thanks partly to tens of millions of dollars he has earned making speeches around the world. Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120097424021905843.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 9:20:05 AM

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Hillary Clinton not only was on the board but her law firm did work for Walmart. The Company was one of the biggest supporters of the Clintons Political Activities. As of late the Clintons have attempted to distance themselves with Walmart due to it's unpopluar status with minority groups. However they still hold stock in the company.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 9:40:27 AM

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I don't trust Hilary, Period. She is extremely ambitious, and got her first taste of D.C. power when she was in her twenties; she was first chair (assistant-to) Archibald Cox during the Watergate hearings! I almost wish I did believe in her, because I think she's going to win the election. She has the drive, the ability to manipulate crowds (the tears), and is offering an alleged radical change to the stimying politics and cronyism that is rampant in D.C. under Bush. What scares me, though, is that she will bring in her own brand of cronyism, and then there is the danger of dynasties being formed. If Clinton is elected, then we will have had two families controlling the White House for more than twenty years, which is unprecedented in the history of the office; children will have grown up knowing nothing but either Bush or Clinton--two extremes of the political spectrum, which could have long-reaching effects.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 9:44:45 AM

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Oprah for president!!!

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 10:48:29 AM

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Hillary is on her knees for corp money. She's a joke.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 10:50:11 AM

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hehehe.............

I'm corp.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 12:58:48 PM

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It seems that when it comes to this particular activity, raising the bar is not in your equation...

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 1:04:27 PM

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that may well be. I am a simple man, at heart.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 1:11:30 PM

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quote:

I don't trust Hilary, Period. She is extremely ambitious, and got her first taste of D.C. power when she was in her twenties; she was first chair (assistant-to) Archibald Cox during the Watergate hearings! I almost wish I did believe in her, because I think she's going to win the election. She has the drive, the ability to manipulate crowds (the tears), and is offering an alleged radical change to the stimying politics and cronyism that is rampant in D.C. under Bush. What scares me, though, is that she will bring in her own brand of cronyism, and then there is the danger of dynasties being formed.

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Replace the female pronouns with male pronouns and the traits you're complaining about are usually thought to be positive and desirable in leaders, when used to describe men...

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 1:18:29 PM

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And Hillary uses Silicon Valley like an ATM.
And we all know what they want,....unlimited H1b Visas because they can't seem to "find" any of the 2 million American high teck workers who they layed off.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 1:56:08 PM

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She has the drive, the ability to manipulate crowds (the tears), and is offering an alleged radical change to the stimying politics and cronyism that is rampant in D.C. under Bush. What scares me, though, is that she will bring in her own brand of cronyism, and then there is the danger of dynasties being formed.

subtee, I don't see how that description if applied to a man would be desirable.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 2:01:45 PM

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Yeah, she'd be a "Musollini Progressive."

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 2:19:32 PM

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I was refering to the things I quoted: ambition, starting in her 20's, etc.

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 2:20:42 PM

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Again, we can sit here and talk about how many of the corporate candidates are on their knees sucking off big business, and there's no shortage to be found. Ron Paul has never taken any lobby money. Never. In 28 years of Congress. Feric just said that "Bush and Clinton-two extreme ends of the political spectrum....." I have to disagree. If we blame NAFTA on Clinton (a republican held Congress), and CAFTA on Bush (a democrat held Congress), you'll always wonder why things are the way they are. We have to come to grips that as time goes on, the same companies own the same politicians, and thus there's less and less difference between the direction America heads in. Walmart's practices are typical of a Clinton as well as a Bush. If you think Walmart is an outlier in big business, you haven't looked into CACI, KBR, Titan, News Corporation, or Halliburton. A friend of mine jokes about a merger between Halliburton and Walmart: Walliburton. Seriously though, Ron Paul is the only candidate to vote for. PEOPLE, SEE THE LIGHT!!! www.ronpaul2008.com

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RE: Hilary and Walmart - 1/22/2008 2:22:11 PM

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You might want to re read your post here is what you quoted in its entirety

"I don't trust Hilary, Period. She is extremely ambitious, and got her first taste of D.C. power when she was in her twenties; she was first chair (assistant-to) Archibald Cox during the Watergate hearings! I almost wish I did believe in her, because I think she's going to win the election. She has the drive, the ability to manipulate crowds (the tears), and is offering an alleged radical change to the stimying politics and cronyism that is rampant in D.C. under Bush. What scares me, though, is that she will bring in her own brand of cronyism, and then there is the danger of dynasties being formed. "

There is nothing sexist in that criticism. And that description of a man would not be positive.

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