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Frauds? - 1/15/2008 2:50:55 AM

HeidiAnn

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I wanted to start a new thread incase the current fraud-thread really gets annihilated.:)

That thread got me thinking about how many people have really had bad fraud experiences? I quess it might be worse for D's than s's.

I feel that with the people I've met in the net, I haven't really met anyone I'd call a fraud. Maybe one very common theme with D's and relationships that start online is that many take more control than they end up having time or interest to supervise. Though that is something that I've gotten careful about.:) One theme with good relationships is that there is no rush in them anywhere. Things might evolve fast, but not with a rush.

Still, most of the people I've met have been very nice.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 3:03:29 AM

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Why would you think it was worse for one role than the other? Do you know how many men on these sites believe submissive = easy and are lying about everything about themselves? I think many of us have encountered people that weren't what they said they were or were only looking for a meal ticket, learning to distinguish is the key and letting it go when it does happen.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 3:13:14 AM

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Why would you think it was worse for one role than the other? Do you know how many men on these sites believe submissive = easy and are lying about everything about themselves? I think many of us have encountered people that weren't what they said they were or were only looking for a meal ticket, learning to distinguish is the key and letting it go when it does happen.

agree all roles can be fraud..and it happens outside the lifestyle too. It is sadly part of life that there are peopel that try to mis-use others.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 3:21:25 AM

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I really can't say, maybe because very few of my s-friends have had bad experiences as opposed to most of my D friends having had them, atleast money wise.

Now that I really make my brain hurt, I can see you have good point. Silly me.:)

Maybe one thing that keeps me and most of my friends safe generally is that we're open and talkative. If we bump into people online or rl who keep secrets or don't wish to share personal info, it's byebye very fast.You usually can sense when someone is holding back on telling things. Or maybe we just don't even know we've been frauded,lol. That'd be very likely too.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 3:55:27 AM

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atleast money wise.

Please expound.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 4:05:48 AM

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Money-wise: being asked for money in the early stages of getting knowing each other. For traveling or whatever. I can't remember any of my friends telling me they've been subjected to a fraud, but some say money requests do happen often and that's where most of them end the correspondence.

It's just one thing I've thought to be different. No D has ever asked me to send money for traveling or new underwear, lol. Some have wanted to buy me things, but I feel pretty uncomfortable with that too. I mean with people whom I don't know or barely know.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 4:32:47 AM

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As far as i know, i have only dealt with one guy who was really a fraud and only wanted to hurt people. My belief is that what goes around comes around and that you pay for everything you do rotten on purpose to people some way or another. Within days he got what he deserved and all those people that weren't able to see him as a fraud got their justice.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 4:47:24 AM

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Enough with the man bashing. Women are just as bad.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 4:53:27 AM

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Fraud isn't gender specific nor it is a Dom/me or sub or switch "thing" it is just deceitful person(s) trying to get over on another person. You see this not only in D/s relationships but in many other types of relationships as well. When getting involved with someone it is best to take your time and not to rush, if someone is rushing you into something you can almost bet they have some agenda going on. Be smart, be safe.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 5:16:22 AM

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Frauds are everywhere. Wheither it's on line, in a bar, at a party, anywhere. Lots of people put up a good 'front' to attract attention. Then, you find out it was all a lie... or at least an exageration and the person is a head case at best.

My old mIRC group used to have big 'meet & greet' parties so the members could have a causual way to see if they actually enjoyed the company of the people they had been conversing with on line. Normally, all the people were just wonderful... sadly, they never seemed quite as attractive in person as they had seemed on those blurry little cam images, but that was ok. By that time, we were interested in the personalities more than the looks... But there is always at least one nut in the bag.

Example: BIG party at the admin's house in Daytona Beach. Two members who had staked claims on each other arrived seperately, Maxx & his lady who changed her nick to MrsMaxx out of 'respect for him'. When they got to the party, this girl glommed onto Maxx like they really were married. The two of them were given a private room for the night and everyone else thought they were happy as clams. The next morning, Maxx looked over the huge buffet table of food provided by our host and grumbled, "There's no Bagles. I really wanted a Bagle."

MrsMax perked up "I'll go get you some!"

As soon as she was out the door, Maxx was quickly packing his bags. We all laughed at him. He said "That woman is a LOON! She bought herself a wedding ring and actually thinks she's coming home with me. I'm OUT OF HERE!"

From then on, the 'code word' for "I need to dump this leach" was "I really wanted a Bagle."

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 5:17:05 AM

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Whose bashing men? i gave one example of one guy.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 5:43:19 AM

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Lol, have to remember that bagle one. Creepy, but funny story. :D

Now that I think of it, something like did happen to one of my friends too, met someone online, who turned out to be a stalkystalky-looney ready to get married after the first time they met in rl. Oh my.

I've been thinking about how it seems that some people just attract more frauds, looneys or whatever around them than others. For example my uncle has been married three times and according to his own words he's been robbed each time in divorce. He blames his exes and is bitter about his life, but I do feel he should start practicing some self-reflection already. I think in life we generally have more control over our lives than we want to admit.

heidi

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 5:45:45 AM

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I'm sure all the guys I've turned down think I'm a fraud. I don't bow and scrape to anyone, I'm submissive to one. Luckily he doesn't demand scraping because I don't really know what this is.

A fraud is simply someone who isn't into you. As far as the original thread, it sounded so lame that I'm assuming she sent him this trash in order to get him to stop emailing her all the time despite never getting a response. Some folks are just clueless.

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 5:48:51 AM

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I am real............send Me your money

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 5:55:29 AM

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I am real............send Me your money

Jeffwey

and your bagels

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 5:57:05 AM

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lightly toasted............with sausgae, egg and cheese..........and a black coffee...

Jeffwey

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 6:06:13 AM

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---- FR ---
Greetings
yep yep....I have been subject to frauds from time to time....part of life. I have also had the rather disconcerting experience of being stalked....and I know she is still out there (here). Any who want to know about either can feel free to message Me on the other side. Suffice it to say. S... happens, move on....in both types of cases. Learn from the past, use it to help inform yourself ( I try to), but consciously make an effort to not let it color present or potential relationships in any form of dynamic. That is baggage that really needs to be lost by the airline. heh heh. Live, learn, but live!

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 6:07:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

lightly toasted............with sausgae, egg and cheese..........and a black coffee...

Jeffwey

You're making me hungry. Stop it, or I'll go all stalky on you

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 6:09:44 AM

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You're making me hungry. Stop it, or I'll go all stalky on you

Well........scamper off and get us some breakfast

Ronald MacDOMald

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RE: Frauds? - 1/15/2008 6:30:29 AM

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Sends Jeffff some money. I want the change back.

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