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house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car torched - 1/9/2008 6:05:18 AM

pahunkboy

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyyXgWpaUU4&eurl=http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=26584

the man CAN refuse to rent to any type of person. discrimination doesnt apply to one unit rentals.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 6:27:36 AM

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As you'll know R, I'm all for the ending of discrimination - but I see huge problems in extending that to private contractual relationships. Who I buy from or sell to is my decision, not a decision that the law should make for me - unless the law also wishes to cover the losses I might accrue from having to deal with those who in normal circumstances I'd prefer not to deal with.

I own a business, and I can say now that there are certain groups I would rather not contract with. Not because I'm a nasty person who has something personal against these groups, but because of recurrent experience of dealing with them - and sadly its a 100% record with them of them paying late or not at all, changing the goalposts throughout the contract and finding fault where there is none to renegotiate price after delivery. Naturally we're not allowed to discriminate, but we are allowed to price our service and payment terms according to risk as we perceive it - and this puts them off. It says it all really, when, on their first order we now ask everyone to pay in advance to show goodwill, and these same certain groups will then go elsewhere, whilst everyone else has no problem with it, and indeed expects it.

All we are interested in is providing a good service at a profit and getting paid on time - religion, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sexuality etc are irrelevant. But it would be wrong of me to say that certain groups have not shown themselves to be unreliable customers and remiss of me to deal with them as I would others who have not demonstrated such a record.

And before I get jumped all over for saying so - I am not going into which groups and I can assure you that twenty years' experience has gone into the policy I have adopted, and more than that its a common experience with these groups across our industry and beyond. Maybe its a cultural thing, but its not the way we do business.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 7:18:08 AM

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I see nothing wrong with refusing to contract with people who have a proven track record of being unreliable customers. That is just sensible business practice.

Sorry hunky, but in Maine where I was born and raised, it IS illegal to discriminate against anyone in renting, including single unit dwellings. That being said, it is more difficult to be found out and in any discrimination you have to prove your side of it (the plural you). Proving is a very difficult matter if there are no witnesses who are unattached to you and the leasor can simply say he's changed his mind for the moment. Wait 3-4 weeks and re-list. Policing any discrimination is difficult at best.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 7:19:02 AM

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I demand to know which groups or I am afraid the possibility of legal consequences exists.
Only posting half the facts on CM is a major crime.
Or should be lol

In the UK I believe you cant discriminte when renting. Is that true ?
I remember that Blackpool hotelier getting in trouble for not allowing male homosexuals to stay at his place.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 7:25:52 AM

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But you are allowed to use credit checks. And illegals won't show valid credit. You can also use criminal background checks. Or just say the rental is already spoken for. It's not that hard to refuse people as a landlord.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 7:42:00 AM

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Sorry hunky, but in Maine where I was born and raised, it IS illegal to discriminate against anyone in renting, including single unit dwellings.

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/housing/title8.htm

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 7:44:31 AM

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Federal housing laws apply to units of 4 units or more. States may go further.

Lady E, my brother was in the car business. There is a group of people he wont deal with. I thought he was exaggerrating till I seen what he meant. Anyhow I wont post --details as this is a public board.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 7:47:52 AM

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I filed an unfair housing complaint last year. The doublespeak suits told me- after extensivce grilling that- in my case it was sheer greed- and that is not illegal. LOL

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 7:51:10 AM

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i really do not see any problem with what the man is doing... it is his proporty...

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 8:25:57 AM

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torching a guys car is extreme. vigil ante in the worst way.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 9:05:22 AM

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quote:

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ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

Sorry hunky, but in Maine where I was born and raised, it IS illegal to discriminate against anyone in renting, including single unit dwellings.

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/housing/title8.htm

If you knowingly rent to illegals you are guilty of "harboring", a federal felony.
U.S. Code Title 8 Chap 12
The "National Origin" part of the fair housing laws means for example that if you didn't like Russians or some other group that you couldn't refuse to rent to them on that basis. (being Russian)
It assumes that people of a particular "national origin" are in the country (legally).

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 9:29:17 AM

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What a dick...

He could achieve the same results in private.There are many ways to skin a cat..He`s just a loudmouth,looking for attention.

If if was arson,the arsonist would have to know that the landlord lived across the street.

It also could have been accidental.Thousands of cars catch on fire for what ever reason,and not b/c the were torched purposely.With this guys level of angst and paranoia,it makes sense that he would think it was torched.

Anyone notice, that the sign`s lock,looks like a handcuff?
A big old outdoors handcuff? <heads off to google>

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 10:43:22 AM

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Just like the one guy in Philly who has a sign posted at his restaurant..."No speak English, no service."

Of course the stupidity of the sign has nothing to do with what it says.....because it's in English. Someone who cant speak english probably cant read it either. It's just the owner being a loudmouth, wants publicity, and make a political statement.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 1:36:24 PM

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What a joke it would be if half of his kitchen help couldn't speak English.

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RE: house 4rent,but no illegals or sex offenders car to... - 1/9/2008 1:45:32 PM

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What a joke it would be if half of his kitchen help couldn't speak English.

Sub, they speak English in that part of Philly, and Italian.

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